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Open Discussion on Kaperdick workout.

I'll be clear - I think Colin deserves a shot, if he can complete the requirements.

There are many more 'wackos' that are US citizens who some of us have chosen to defend their rights regardless - he's just another number.

Far too long have we, as a people, taken offense to an individuals short-comings and never give that person a second chance to show the 'other side of the leaf'. I get it - it makes some uncomfortable; our athletes need to use the right platform to voice their opinions - the question is, "who's listening"?

Feel free to throw your tomatoes...

If the Steelers signed him, would you be OK with that? I say that with Mason one headshot away from missing some games and you have Duck and Lynch behind him. Like Vick, I'm sure a lot of fans would cry, whine, burn jerseys and forego their fandom of the B&G. If he would help them win, be a security blanket, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me. They have a chance to be 8-4 after the next three games and the PO is in striking distance. It would be interesting if he got a chance and in Pittsburgh. Could he really be an asset? That remains to be seen, but we'll see with his workout.
 
Well, some team may end up with a social justice clipboard warrior

If someone signs him and doesn't put a clause in the contract regarding his activism on company time and the NFL approves it, then that is on them.

What is sad about the entire situation is there is a chance to do some real good in the world if all parties would decide to work together on it rather than squabble over it.
 
If the Steelers signed him, would you be OK with that? I say that with Mason one headshot away from missing some games and you have Duck and Lynch behind him. Like Vick, I'm sure a lot of fans would cry, whine, burn jerseys and forego their fandom of the B&G. If he would help them win, be a security blanket, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me. They have a chance to be 8-4 after the next three games and the PO is in striking distance. It would be interesting if he got a chance and in Pittsburgh. Could he really be an asset? That remains to be seen, but we'll see with his workout.

No, no, and no. 7 games left and I'd be OK with Duck. Other than being out of the league too long, and relegated to a back up even then, he would disrupt any team chemistry that now exists.

Ben is back next year, no reason to bring a circus to town.
 
I do not like him and think he is an entitled phony, but if the steelers signed him it wouldnt bother me as much as Vick
 
If someone signs him and doesn't put a clause in the contract regarding his activism on company time and the NFL approves it, then that is on them.

What is sad about the entire situation is there is a chance to do some real good in the world if all parties would decide to work together on it rather than squabble over it.

As long as working together doesn't involve disrespecting the flag, none of it would bother me. Plenty of ways to have your voice heard in this country..........
 
As long as working together doesn't involve disrespecting the flag, none of it would bother me. Plenty of ways to have your voice heard in this country..........

The way to accomplish something good is to get into the communities involved and start talking things out to find real and workable solutions. The NFL has an amazing amount of influence through its brand and its players that it could be a real avenue for change if they pulled together and made an effort to do so. Imagine other sports jumped in as well such as the NBA or MLB.
 
I'll be clear - I think Colin deserves a shot, if he can complete the requirements.

There are many more 'wackos' that are US citizens who some of us have chosen to defend their rights regardless - he's just another number.

Far too long have we, as a people, taken offense to an individuals short-comings and never give that person a second chance to show the 'other side of the leaf'. I get it - it makes some uncomfortable; our athletes need to use the right platform to voice their opinions - the question is, "who's listening"?

Feel free to throw your tomatoes...

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Kaepernick would be in the NFL if any team thought his performance would be worth the headache. No matter what Kaepernick's cause actually is, the perception is wearing the Fidel Castro shirt, the police depicted as pig socks, and anti-American for kneeling during the National Anthem. That's how a large portion of the NFL fan base views him and that's why teams won't sign him. The Steelers took a pretty big PR hit when they signed Vick and when they stayed in the tunnel for the National Anthem. It turned some of those fans completely off from the team. No doubt the same will happen if a team signs Kaepernick. \

Several years ago he was a big time upgrade as a backup QB and even for some teams as starting QB. However, being out of the league for a few years, the appeal just isn't there. Teams would rather go young and cheap with zero distractions.
 
I have a real feeling the Steelers will be there.
The league said 11 teams have committed to attend: the*Arizona Cardinals,*Atlanta Falcons,*Cleveland Browns,*Denver Broncos,*Detroit Lions,*Miami Dolphins,*New England Patriots,*New York Giants,*New York Jets,*Tampa Bay Buccaneers*and*Washington Redskins.

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I know. Just gotta gut feeling.

We brought Vick in. I know many, including me were not happy as being loving dog folks. But we did, and it went ok (from a P.R. standpoint). The team, mainly the defense is looking up. We win again, could the FO look to a pin that could boost the O? Maybe.

End of the day, my whole thing with him is...he was benched for **** play before he did his kneeling ****. He was good for 2 yrs and fell the **** off. Could he be an upgrade for teams, sure ....but is it worth the drama. Can the Steelers endure that drama. I think they could. I know many will be pissed, including me. I’m sure a certain O line man will let’s his guy go from time to time.
 
I’d say the workout is either something that was in his settlement or it’s just the NFL trying to defend from another lawsuit.

The workout is stupid. He will probably look great in shorts, running and throwing against air. He’s fast and has a good arm. That’s not his issue. His issue is that he doesn’t read defenses, didn’t put in the work to learn a playbook, and will still be a distraction.

a part of me hopes he gets signed and actually starts a game and reminds everybody that he was benched because he sucks.

i’m sick of hearing this stupid talking point that he is clearly one of the best 64 QBs available therefore him not having a job is proof of whatever..

The fact is that backup QB are often not necessarily the most talented player available. It’s a question of money, potential, and ability to play without practice reps. Most teams want a smart backup who can absorb the playbook and step in without practice reps. Or they want a developmental prospect. Kap fits neither category. He has shown in the past that he does not pick up offense quickly. He’s pretty much limited to a read option playbook. He’s also not a developmental prospect at his age and the fact that most teams figure he’s already reached his peak.

Maybe a team wanting to incorporate some option will sign him but I can’t see anybody signing him to be a true backup as a pocket passer.
 
Both Golic’s said this morning “everyone” looks amazing in shorts. Toss some pads on them
 
It’ll be 15 years from now and this clown will still be talked about that he should still get a chance to play somewhere. He sucked 3 years ago and he sure as hell didn’t get better.

So sick of hearing about him.


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I’d say the workout is either something that was in his settlement or it’s just the NFL trying to defend from another lawsuit.

The workout is stupid. He will probably look great in shorts, running and throwing against air. He’s fast and has a good arm. That’s not his issue. His issue is that he doesn’t read defenses, didn’t put in the work to learn a playbook, and will still be a distraction.

a part of me hopes he gets signed and actually starts a game and reminds everybody that he was benched because he sucks.

i’m sick of hearing this stupid talking point that he is clearly one of the best 64 QBs available therefore him not having a job is proof of whatever..

The fact is that backup QB are often not necessarily the most talented player available. It’s a question of money, potential, and ability to play without practice reps. Most teams want a smart backup who can absorb the playbook and step in without practice reps. Or they want a developmental prospect. Kap fits neither category. He has shown in the past that he does not pick up offense quickly. He’s pretty much limited to a read option playbook. He’s also not a developmental prospect at his age and the fact that most teams figure he’s already reached his peak.

Maybe a team wanting to incorporate some option will sign him but I can’t see anybody signing him to be a true backup as a pocket passer.

This is spot on. Kap sucked which is why he was benched. He didn't want to be a backup and then wanted starting money to be a backup. Most teams will overlook a moron as long as he can start. But why take the chance for a backup and a guy that hasn't played in 3 years. Makes no sense.
 
I’d say the workout is either something that was in his settlement or it’s just the NFL trying to defend from another lawsuit.

The workout is stupid. He will probably look great in shorts, running and throwing against air. He’s fast and has a good arm. That’s not his issue. His issue is that he doesn’t read defenses, didn’t put in the work to learn a playbook, and will still be a distraction.

a part of me hopes he gets signed and actually starts a game and reminds everybody that he was benched because he sucks.

i’m sick of hearing this stupid talking point that he is clearly one of the best 64 QBs available therefore him not having a job is proof of whatever..

The fact is that backup QB are often not necessarily the most talented player available. It’s a question of money, potential, and ability to play without practice reps. Most teams want a smart backup who can absorb the playbook and step in without practice reps. Or they want a developmental prospect. Kap fits neither category. He has shown in the past that he does not pick up offense quickly. He’s pretty much limited to a read option playbook. He’s also not a developmental prospect at his age and the fact that most teams figure he’s already reached his peak.

Maybe a team wanting to incorporate some option will sign him but I can’t see anybody signing him to be a true backup as a pocket passer.

This is spot on. Kap sucked which is why he was benched. He didn't want to be a backup and then wanted starting money to be a backup. Most teams will overlook a moron as long as he can start. But why take the chance for a backup and a guy that hasn't played in 3 years. Makes no sense.

Well said.

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I could see it if the Steelers signed him. 1st game in it would be like the longest yard scene where the offensive line just lets all defenders kill the qb.
 
If the Steelers even think about signing him, I’ll give up my 40 tans of being a fan and start watching hockey only
 
If the Steelers signed him the media circus would far outweigh his benefit. Every sub par game from Rudolph would lead to calls from Social Justice Warriors that its racism/conspiracy causing him to not start. Either way every player would have a mic in his face about him every damn week
 
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