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officiating

So there was at least three officiating calls in the game that were never called that should have been called vs Bungles.....

1.) Burfict roughing the QB diving into Ben's ankles
2.) Pass Interference in 2nd QTR by Kirkpatrick on a pass thrown to Bryant in the endzone.....Kirkpatrick was all over him before the ball got there
3.) AJ Green using the football as a prop and punting it into the stands....never called.....

I'm sure there's more but those are three that stick in my head. TERRIBLE OFFICIATING THIS YEAR!
 
The non-call on a low hit to Ben was ridiculous. Again, you make those calls so that doesn't continually happen to quarterbacks. I was also confused on AB's reception when they didn't give him forward progress.
 
Yeah, I've since looked into it. It was definitely the right call, but what a weird rule.

I understand if the defender is engaged with another blocker, but the defender was by himself in the open field in this instance.
I don't remember the play perfectly. I view a crack or crack back block as the slot or outside receiver coming down from the side on a defender where he cannot see him. Now defiantly yu couldn't go low or no one would have a knee left. However, I thought AB was face up with the guy and it was a cut not a crack. The flag came from behind, the linesman had a perfect look at it and didn't throw his flag. Regardless AB was fouled twice after the play.
 
It was not a crack back. AB did not hit the defender from the side or blindside. He hit him in the front and the defender saw it coming.

We did out physical that team. We knocked out a bunch of starters, so I can see why the refs were harder on us.

ABs spot was bullshit. He is standing on the 30 yd line when the defender made contact and pushed him backwards.
 
http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN ...ontaze-burfict-ben-roethlisberger-cheap-shot/

The refs were trying their best to keep it close for Vegas. Ref 131 right there looking at Ben. Right there!
 
This is pathetic.. how this wasn't penalized is unbelievable.

Burfict sure is a POS.. has been since his college days.
Roger does not like to see someone like Ben Roelisberger who took his suspension then redeemed himself both on and off the field, become conversation for the Hall of Fame.
Nope that red headed ******* doesn't like it one bit.
 
It's a conspiracy. The Steelers would have 0 penalties if it weren't for the refs screwing them.

It's a mix of a few penalty prone players ( Mitchell ), and poor officiating.
 
According to them every call. Not sure which other than the holding on whitlessworth.

Which WAS holding. It is on every play and could be called on every play....I don't know when the rules changed to make clotheslining a legal block?

Here's another example of poor officiating.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/12/pass-interference-steelers-wr-martavis-bryant/

It's a mix of a few penalty prone players ( Mitchell ), and poor officiating.

No....it's the misperception by the rest of the world that the Steelers are a dirty team.
 
I think I'm confused with defensive holding vs PI. Brown was getting mugged as he is catching the ball on the sideline...he had to catch it with 1 hand because Kirkpatrick was hanging onto his right side. Yet it was called defensive holding because the ref claimed it was "prior to the pass". So if a corner holds prior to the throw, you can essentially mug the hell out of the WR, even when the ball is in the air, to make sure they don't catch it and only be penalized 5 yards. Or did the ref just call it incorrectly and it should've been PI? In the scheme of things it only made a difference of about 7 yards and a waste of time as the Bengals had to challenge the catch then. I thought it should've been a spot foul penalty to begin with.
 
I think I'm confused with defensive holding vs PI. Brown was getting mugged as he is catching the ball on the sideline...he had to catch it with 1 hand because Kirkpatrick was hanging onto his right side. Yet it was called defensive holding because the ref claimed it was "prior to the pass". So if a corner holds prior to the throw, you can essentially mug the hell out of the WR, even when the ball is in the air, to make sure they don't catch it and only be penalized 5 yards. Or did the ref just call it incorrectly and it should've been PI? In the scheme of things it only made a difference of about 7 yards and a waste of time as the Bengals had to challenge the catch then. I thought it should've been a spot foul penalty to begin with.

This after they call Blake for PI when the pass was nowhere near Green. Totally mind-boggling.
 
The missed pass interference call on Bryant was terrible. I don't love "ticky-tack" PI calls at all, but the defender was there early and it was clearly visible in real time.
 
PI is when the ball is in the air. Holding is before the ball is thrown. AB was PI. Blake's PI should have been holding, since the ball was in the air, but the ball was not catchable.
 
How about just the fact the Bungals who pushed and shoved all game never got a unsportsman like penalty till less the 3 minutes in the game.
 
How about just the fact the Bungals who pushed and shoved all game never got a unsportsman like penalty till less the 3 minutes in the game.

Well AJ Green is the choir boy of the league.. because he has a reputation of not talking, he will never be at fault.
Yesterday and the game before, after every catch he makes, he gets right up in the face of our guys and no flags.
He didn't like how Blake slammed him yesterday, he gets up and immediately pushes Blake... Blake gets the flag.
 
It was not a crack back. AB did not hit the defender from the side or blindside. He hit him in the front and the defender saw it coming.

I was worried they were going to call Ben for a crack back on Bryant's reverse. It was pretty much the same block.
 
PI is when the ball is in the air. Holding is before the ball is thrown. AB was PI. Blake's PI should have been holding, since the ball was in the air, but the ball was not catchable.

So basically the refs got it backwards...sounds about right these days.
 
It is REALLY amazing how stupid the officials / nfl thinks we are. I see the brainwashing of the average fan (the ones that believe everything the talking heads say), on a daily / game basis. It's a lot easier to "steer" a game when everyone thinks it's the "dumb *** ref's, who can't get it right. Pretty blatant when a touchdown is scored, all eyes on the scoring player, then he kicks it out of the playing area with NO penalty. That is a great example of steering a game.




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I'm still trying to figure out how they failed to call interference or facemask on the the pass that was intended for Brown but was intercepted.

He was both mugged and slapped in the facemask on the same play. It would have been a miracle for him to have caught the ball. Instead it was an AMAZING interception.
 
The officials gave the Lions the business for an entire game yesterday, again. Some of the calls they miss are so blatant I feel like games are fixed, and I'm no conspiracy theorist. The league makes billions. Hire the damn bums, make them permanent at 100,000 a year and make them watch video, film, read the rule book eight hours a day the entire off season and set some camps up for training new ones. The fact that they let something so important change the outcome of games tells you they give not a damn about the integrity of the game, or the fans who pay for everything they have.
 
I don't understand how Mitchell's hit on Eifert was worthy of a defenseless receiver flag, but the hit on Heath where he jumped to make the catch and the defender went low and cut his legs out, flipping him backwards causing him to slam the back of his head and neck on the turf, wasn't worthy of one. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it should have been a penalty, but if hitting a guy when he leaves his feet horizontally warrants a flag, shouldn't a guy leaving his feet vertically get the same protection? Slamming your head backwards off of the ground might actually be more likely to cause a concussion than a helmet to helmet hit.
 
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The Bengals as of yesterday morning were the #1 seed.

That warrants a flag. End of story.
 
I don't understand how Mitchell's hit on Eifert was worthy of a defenseless receiver flag, but the hit on Heath where he jumped to make the catch and the defender went low and cut his legs out, flipping him backwards causing him to slam the back of his head and neck on the turf, wasn't worthy of one. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it should have been a penalty, but if hitting a guy when he leaves his feet horizontally warrants a flag, shouldn't a guy leaving his feet vertically get the same protection? Slamming your head backwards off of the ground might actually be more likely to cause a concussion than a helmet to helmet hit.

I watched the Mitchell hit in slow motion earlier today. It was on ESPN and they were talking about whether Eifert might be out for a while. It was clear from this angle that is was a helmet-to-helmet angle (compared to the broadcast angle which made it very hard to see). I think it was a good call by the refs.
 
One more point: it's amazing how different crews call the game differently. That really frustrates fans. One week you get a crew that's calling illegal contact on every other pass play for some very ticky-tack stuff and then the next week the DBs are allowed to maul the WRs without any flags. Besides hiring the refs as full-timers, they need to find a way to make the different crews call roughly the same game and not have one crew that calls 4 offensive holdings on an average week and another that calls 0.8 offensive holdings per week.
 
It is REALLY amazing how stupid the officials / nfl thinks we are. I see the brainwashing of the average fan (the ones that believe everything the talking heads say), on a daily / game basis. It's a lot easier to "steer" a game when everyone thinks it's the "dumb *** ref's, who can't get it right. Pretty blatant when a touchdown is scored, all eyes on the scoring player, then he kicks it out of the playing area with NO penalty. That is a great example of steering a game.


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It's pretty comical week to week. Last week (can't remember the exact play), where the refs picked up a flag and said 'there is no holding on the play as the ball was in the air'. ??
 
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