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Official Steelers training camp thread (updates)

If it wasn't mentioned yet, Robert Golden with an injury today
I wouldn't be shocked one bit if the Steelers bring in another safety, either a FA or via trade. We're walking on eggshells right now at the position, with Mitchell/Sharmako both nursing injuries and now Golden down. Will Allen hasn't been able to practice much at all, as far as I know. Seems to me by far the thinnest spot on the roster, I'd welcome a move by Colbert any day now...

edit - anyone think Cortez Allen would be any good at FS? Is he a good enough tackler?
 
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We're going to get a pretty good look at Holliman during these preseason games. We'll know soon if he was a steal, or bargain basement draft pick.
 
We're going to get a pretty good look at Holliman during these preseason games. We'll know soon if he was a steal, or bargain basement draft pick.

by his body of work so far in camp, I am less than impressed

and I liked the pick..................
 
by his body of work so far in camp, I am less than impressed

and I liked the pick..................

Read a report today he was looking good, including his physicality.
 
I wouldn't be shocked one bit if the Steelers bring in another safety, either a FA or via trade. We're walking on eggshells right now at the position, with Mitchell/Sharmako both nursing injuries and now Golden down. Will Allen hasn't been able to practice much at all, as far as I know. Seems to me by far the thinnest spot on the roster, I'd welcome a move by Colbert any day now...

edit - anyone think Cortez Allen would be any good at FS? Is he a good enough tackler?

Allen had been held out on purpose by Tomlin. Just to keep him fresh.
 
Read a report today he was looking good, including his physicality.

As someone said it is hard to get a feel for when there is so many conflicting reports floating around.

Glad preseason starts Sunday. We will get more accurate looks on where players are.................
 
Inside The Steelers: LB Moats on top of his game during scrimmage
By Ralph N. Paulk and Mark Kaboly
Wednesday, Aug. 5, 2015, 7:51 p.m.
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• Linebacker Arthur Moats was virtually unstoppable during much of the scrimmage. He strung together consecutive plays and frustrated the offense. He blew past two blockers in getting to quarterback Landry Jones before he could set his feet. Then, he followed by tackling running back Jawon Chisholm at the line of scrimmage. The sixth-year linebacker showed versatility by breaking up a pass intended for third-round pick Sammie Coates along the sideline. Outside linebackers coach Joey Porter responded, “That's the way to break glass, Moats.”

• There hasn't been a practice yet in which linebacker Vince Williams hasn't delivered a heavy blow. With running back Cameron Stingily taking a swing pass out of the backfield, Williams hammered him from behind. So much for dialing it back in training camp for the sometimes-overzealous Williams. Stingily, who earlier took a shot from linebacker Shayon Green, bounced up without blinking.

• Cornerback Brandon Boykin, acquired in a trade with the Philadelphia Eagles, is coming around rather quickly. He looked sharp in both passing drills and in 11-on-11. He swatted away a couple of passes, including one in which he reached around C.J. Goodwin to deflect what looked like an easy reception.

• Robert Golden, who was injured late in practice, sealed a huge hole in which Stingily appeared ready to explode through. But Golden shed guard Chris Hubbard and tackle Kelvin Beachum to cut down Stingily in the backfield during the first team period.

• Linebacker Lawrence Timmons came up limping during ‘7 shots' drills while covering running back Dri Archer. Timmons shook it off but was beaten two snaps later when tight end Cameron Clear slipped behind him for an easy catch in the end zone.

• Everyone is wants to know if the 5-foot-8 Archer can take a shot. He was crushed by safety Alden Darby but bounced up quickly.

• Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey has found a way get open and catch most everything thrown his way during camp. But he dropped a perfectly thrown ball after beating cornerback B.W. Webb and safety Will Allen on a fly route.

•Cornerback Antwon Blake shut down everyone, including Antonio Brown. Blake was locked up with Brown in the one-minute drill and closed the door on third down, forcing quarterback Ben Roethlisberger to look elsewhere. In that same drive, Blake swatted away a pass intended for Heyward-Bey.

• Safety Gerod Holliman, a seventh-round round pick, got the attention of the crowd at Chuck Noll Stadium when he twice laid big hits on running backs Roosevelt Nix and Chisholm during 11-on-11. He entered camp with a reputation as a solid pass defender, but he didn't miss a tackle during any drill.

• Linebacker James Harrison was put through a rigorous stretching drill he called “crisscross applesauce.” Coach Mike Tomlin said, “Come on, Jimmy, stay off the ground.” Harrison participated in noncontact drills for the second day in a row.

Getting to know ...

Dan McCullers

At 6-foot-7 and 352 pounds, McCullers is one of the biggest players on the roster. The Steelers' sixth-round pick in 2014 weighed more than 400 pounds in high school but was still athletic enough to dunk a basketball. He played in nine games as a rookie and will see time this year at nose tackle along with Steve McLendon.

If you weren't playing football right now, what would you be doing?

Man, that's a toughie, but I would say some kind of security. Just use my body and my strength and be a security guard. I am sure they make a ton of money when it comes to guarding celebrities.

You had one last meal, what would it be?

My favorite meal is a good lasagna. I eat that a lot. And pizza. I like pizza. I have to stay away from pizza but I like it. And a good bowl of cereal — Cap'n Crunch.

What is the most you ever ate at one setting?

I would say at a Sunday dinner at my grandma's house, I would go back three times. There would be piles of food.

You see a lot of interesting things around the campus of St. Vincent during a typical practice day.

The buzz

A skunk usually isn't one of them … until Wednesday.

A hour before practice, a maintenance worker was in hot pursuit of a skunk (with a cage in hand) that made its way across one of the practice fields as fans were making their way in for practice.

The skunk eventually was captured.
 
Another installment of Bob Labriola answering your questions about the Steelers and the NFL.
LATROBE, PA. – Let’s get to it:

SIMON FOX FROM PORT ALBERNI, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA:
We have been hearing lots of talk about Ryan Shazier and Bud Dupree, but what about Jarvis Jones? Is he making any kind of impression at camp? What do you feel about his chances to become a starter and live up to his potential as a first-round draft pick?


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I am a Jarvis Jones fan, in that I like his potential as a playmaker and he seems to be someone who can really make an impact on this defense. There will be periods of a particular practice, or one practice over a several-day stretch where Jones looks like just another guy. After one pass-rush drill, Tunch Ilkin said out loud what everybody watching that was thinking: “If you didn’t know who was the No. 1 draft pick and who was the No. 6 draft pick, you’d think Anthony Chickillowas the No. 1 and Jarvis Jones was the No. 6.” There have been other snippets like that, but then just when a negative opinion starts to form, Jones puts together back-to-back days where he makes plays during the “tackle football” period. Then you saw him beating blockers and getting into the backfield and either blowing the play up for a loss or making the tackle himself for a loss. Jones largely has been able to stay on the practice field, which is critical to his development because he’s only a 25-year-old going into his third season. I still like Jarvis Jones as a player, and barring injury he will be the starter at right outside linebacker on Sept. 10 against the New England Patriots. After that, it’s going to be up to him.

LORENZO SPEARS FROM WESLACO, TX:
I know that Brandon Boykin hasn't played one game in the black-and-gold and has yet to prove himself here, but do you think it is possible the Steelers keep him after this season? I know he's on the last year of his rookie contract. I think he's got some serious skills from watching him play the past few years.

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The trade for Brandon Boykin was not a knee-jerk reaction to anything that had happened in this training camp, and the rent-a-player philosophy so pervasive in other professional sports never has caught on in football. The Steelers traded for Boykin because they like him as a player who will fit well within the scheme they will be playing moving forward. I see the 2015 season being one where both sides evaluate what it’s like working together. If Boykin makes an impact on this team as a cornerback and interceptor of the football, the Steelers will become very interested in retaining his services, and if he falls in love with Steelers Nation after his three years in Philadelphia, then Boykin could be inclined to stay. When the Steelers traded for Jerome Bettis back in 1996, it was known at the time of the deal that he would be voiding the final year of his rookie contract to become an unrestricted free agent the next year, but the sides fell in love with each other. Maybe that happens again.

BARRY BIBLER FROM SALEM, OR:
This is not going to be one of those “move Shazier to safety” question, but it’s about the quick release of Shawn Lemon. I am kind of shocked at how quickly it happened after Lemon had an awesome season as a CFL linebacker. Is there something that happened behind the scenes that we do not know about with his release? Secondly, do you agree with me that Arthur Moats and Jarvis Jones will be the primary edge-rushers this year barring injury, with Bud Dupree coming on later in the year and James Harrison being in a supporting roll? I see Moats as our sack leader this year making good on his three-year contract. Thanks again for this great segment.

Let’s start with Shawn Lemon. It’s fair to characterize his 13 sacks in the CFL last year as an awesome season, but during the on-field portions of the offseason program he just didn’t look like an NFL player. Granted, those sessions are padless, but if you watched Lemon and then you watched Howard Jones do the same things, it was clear that Jones is the much-better athlete/prospect. The Miami Dolphins found a gem when they signed Cameron Wake from the CFL and saw him post 63 sacks so far in his six NFL seasons, but the difference in the overall talent level between the two leagues is significant. Training camp opened with the Steelers carrying 14 linebackers on their 90-man roster, and that total included Lemon as a name on the physically unable to perform list. Lemon was 14th, and when his Achilles injury prevented him from practicing at the start of camp, the Steelers decided to move on. Midway through OTAs, Lemon getting cut looked to be inevitable. As for Arthur Moats leading the team in sacks – I’m OK with that as long as the number is in double digits. That’s what I believe the Steelers are going to need for their defense to be a successful unit in 2015 – a sack leader in double digits.

PETER TOPA FROM OLD FORGE, PA:
When did the Steelers know about Senquez Golson's shoulder injury? If it was prior to the draft, do you feel that it was a wasted pick?

I’m no doctor, and I’m hesitant to play one for Asked and Answered, but my guess is the Senquez Golson injury happened during the offseason program. I remember him taking a spill and landing on his shoulder during rookie minicamp, and it’s possible that’s when the injury happened. It’s still too early to say surgery is going to be required, and it’s way, way too early to start labeling Golson a wasted draft pick.


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ROOSEVELT RATLIFF FROM ORANGEBURG, SC:
When will we look for a big running back to replace Jerome Bettis and LeGarrette Blount to supplement Le’Veon Bell's efforts. This is needed for short-yardage situations and to build a reliable stable of runners such as Cincinnati, the Browns, and the Ravens are trying to develop.

I like DeAngelo Williams as the Steelers No. 2 running back. Yes, he is 5-foot-9 and weighs 215 pounds, but being explosive is a better asset for an NFL running back than being big. There’s never going to be another Jerome Bettis – a 250-pound man with quickness and a dancer’s feet – which is just one of the reasons he’ll be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame this weekend. And I hope there’s never going to be another LeGarrette Blount, at least not with the Steelers. I really don’t understand your dissatisfaction with the team’s depth chart at running back, because let’s face it, with Ben Roethlisberger and those pass catchers it would be a waste of talent and money to turn this group into a run-first offense.
 
Al is quite firmly in the jarvis camp and that is fine, he also seems to me to imply that he will be our next starter and in no need of replacement. That goes through the thread with his posts just follow them. I feel otherwise but hope I am wrong and he is right. Lots of guys see the playoffs in the future this season I do not I think we will be a team developing a new identity this year and may make a turn around in a season or two.

I think Jarvis is our starting ROLB this season for as long as he is healthy. If healthy I think he'll produce around 8 sacks. If you think that is crazy, consider the 2 sacks he had in games 1-3 last year (small sample size is a given) and the fact that Worilds produced 7.5 sacks last season and he only beat a tackle on maybe one of those (Steelers Depot looked at all of them and posted the .gifs). You can get a sack by forcing a QB out of bounds for a loss of half a yard...no reason Jarvis won't be able to get a couple of those.

I never said anything about great although I do find the excessive hate on Jarvis to be pretty annoying. We all know that Jarvis has produced very little in his first two seasons and pointing that out (repeatedly) is a waste of everyone's time and doesn't further any kind of worthwhile discussion.
 
I wouldn't be shocked one bit if the Steelers bring in another safety, either a FA or via trade. We're walking on eggshells right now at the position, with Mitchell/Sharmako both nursing injuries and now Golden down. Will Allen hasn't been able to practice much at all, as far as I know. Seems to me by far the thinnest spot on the roster, I'd welcome a move by Colbert any day now...

edit - anyone think Cortez Allen would be any good at FS? Is he a good enough tackler?
Really starting to question Shamarko Thomas. This is your chance man. He is always ****** injured. I know guys get hurt but you better find a new line of work if you can't stay healthy. He is like a 25-26 year old guy and it's always some kind of muscle problem. Frankly, I don't even know what this one is but I'd bet my left nut it is vague and muscle related.
 
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Big Chance for Hollman to make the team and get reps with all these guys injured.
 
Really starting to question Shamarko Thomas. This is your chance man. He is always ****** injured. I know guys get hurt but you better find a new line of work if you can't stay healthy. He is like a 25-26 year old guy and it's always some kind of muscle problem. Frankly, I don't even know what this one is but I'd bet my left nut it is vague and muscle related.

what is mystifying is why the coaches throw him into that number 1 role, being somewhat prone to injury

I know they have Allen behind him, but I think SS position is easiest the team biggest weakness right now.

Might have to Polamalu trade up next year and get us a S'ua Cravens.
 
Guys keep in mind the coaches and trainers are taking extra precautions because we have a extra week of camp this year.
 
Vince Williams carted off but doesn't appear to be serious.
 
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day ten training camp notes from SD
 
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Mid-week thoughts
The Steelers wrapped up their third week of practice at Saint Vincent College Wednesday night with a matinee practice.

All eyes were on new placekicker Garrett Hartley as he showed off his leg in an extensive kicking session.

Hartley made 8 of 11 kicks - unofficially - missing two of them from 57 yards. One was short and wide right, the other short and wide left.

The other miss came from 42 yards.

But he displayed plenty of leg.

The man Hartley was signed to replace, Shaun Suisham, and Cameron Stingily both had surgery done on their knees on Wednesday.

Suisham was placed on injured reserve, while Stingily, a rookie running back, was Waived/Injured.

The team signed veteran wide receiver David Nelson and rookie running back Braylon Heard to replace them on the roster.

@ Lawrence Timmons, Vince Williams, Cortez Allen, Mike Mitchell, Daniel McCullers, Ross Ventrone and Senquez Golson were among those who did not practice today.

That makes it unlikely that those guys will play Friday in Jacksonville.

It was confusing on the part of Williams. I saw him in street clothes early. Then I saw No. 98 running around on the field. It was Ryan Shazier wearing Williams' number.

@ The offense had a good day, with guys making some off the charts catches during the team portion of practice.

Markus Wheaton had a nice, stretching catch from Ben Roethlisberger on the sideline against Antwon Blake.

"Good adjustment," head coach Mike Tomlin said to him. "Way to find it."

Not to be outdone, Heath Miller made a turning, twisting, one-handed catch on the next play from Roethlisberger.

Rookie Sammie Coates made a nice adjustment on a pass from Landry Jones to catch a ball that was slightly behind him, but twisted his ankle on the way to the ground and immediately let the ball go.

That earned him some private words from Tomlin. He limped for a bit but was OK.

The offense dominated seven shots, as well, beating the defense 5-2.

Roethlisberger made it look easy, throwing TD passes to Miller, Antonio Brown and Josh Harris.

The throw to Brown was particularly good. He rolled to his right and Brown was initially covered. As Cam Heyward closed, Roethlisberger looked at Brown again and the receiver went back to the inside and Roethlisberger threw him the pass between two defenders.

The look on Heyward's face, "You gotta be kidding me," was priceless.

Harris then scored on a draw to make it 4-0 for the offense. Landry Jones then entered and threw a TD pass to Tyler Murphy - though it appeared safety Ian Wild would have possibly had a sack on a blitz.

He then overthrew Matt Spaeth - who was blanketed so it could have been a throwaway - and a pass to Darrius Heyward-Bey was broken up to end it.

@ Roethlisberger also was successful in a two-minute drive to end practice.

He and Brown put on a show, with Roethlisberger throwing Brown's way four times on the drive - all completions, including a three-yard TD pass.

Tomlin matched rookie Doran Grant on Brown a few times as they closed on the end zone - then taunted him.

"Here he comes 24," Tomlin said.

Later adding, "How you doing 24? Oh shoot, here he comes again."

Jones wasn't as successful with his try.

After a short completion to Coates, he was nearly intercepted by James Harrison, then was sacked by Bud Dupree.

His fourth-down pass was then intercepted by B.W. Webb to end practice.
 
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LATROBE, Pa. -- Well, that was fun.

The Pittsburgh Steelers got after it during Wednesday's practice, sparked by its biggest scuffle of camp. Rookie pass-rusher Bud Dupree appeared disrespected by right tackle Marcus Gilbert on a hold off the edge. So, Dupree came after him. Next thing you know, Steelers players are falling to the ground in a big pile by the line of scrimmage. Left tackle Kelvin Beachum was the last to rise. Dupree had to be held back by several teammates, then went after Gilbert again in a separate drill, to the point where coach Mike Tomlin shoved him, ordering him to leave the scene.

Tomlin seemed comfortable with the action. No obvious punches were thrown.

"That's football," he said.

Added quarterback Ben Roethlisberger: "About time. It's the last week of camp. It was bound to happen. Once you leave the field, it's over."

Antonio Brown was not a satisfied receiver on this day. As the offense appeared off in early 11-man work, with several incompletions, Brown said loudly, "Does someone want to throw me the ball?" Later in the practice, he was visibly frustrated when approaching receiver coaches, saying "they must be out their mind" and reminding how much the team will need him. News flash: Receivers want the ball. Brown wasn't demonstrative, but his persistent chirping became noteworthy.

The defense looked inspired today, getting several stops in the passing game. Cam Heyward, Jarvis Jones and reserve safety Alden Darby were stout in 11-man inside runs. The stronger effort came after giving up an 85-yard score by Jawon Chisolm on the first play. They woke up after that.

Based on what I've seen, a possible cornerback lineup could be Cortez Allen and Antwon Blake on the outside and Brandon Boykin in the slot, with William Gay a trusted veteran who can play all over.

Landry Jones looks like a different quarterback when running with the first team. Roethlisberger sat out most of the one-minute drill after getting sand in his eyes, and Jones filled in admirably, getting the Steelers into field goal range on both trips with several completions, including a slant to Brown.

Todd Haley was upset with Sammie Coates during that drill, pointing out he had a linebacker in the open field but approached him in "slow motion." Coates was Jones' first option on the play and he didn't capitalize.

Kicker Garrett Hartley came through with 47- and 53-yarders in the one-minute drill. Right through the middle.

As if Dupree's day wasn't already hectic, early in practice linebackers coach Joey Porter called him "ya big dummy" after he hit the wrong gap on a running play. Nothing to overreact about, just funny commentary from a colorful coach.
 
Love the Steelers.

I cant wait till week one. I hope they are pumped for that game. I cant stand the Pats!!!
 
Based on what I've seen, a possible cornerback lineup could be Cortez Allen and Antwon Blake on the outside and Brandon Boykin in the slot, with William Gay a trusted veteran who can play all over.

Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. Boykin in the slot and Gay all over. :-)
 
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