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Now we know how the team feels about Markus Wheaton

that's a possibility
 
If that was the case, why the hell didn't they offer him up on a deal to move up in the 2nd? Now, maybe they did, maybe they didn't. We will never know. However, even if this kid is extremely talented, there's no need here. Should we expect about the same amount of production from him as we did lance Moore or justin brown? This pick is a head scratcher to me.
 
chipped ham said:
If that was the case, why the hell didn't they offer him up on a deal to move up in the 2nd? Now, maybe they did, maybe they didn't. We will never know. However, even if this kid is extremely talented, there's no need here. Should we expect about the same amount of production from him as we did lance Moore or justin brown? This pick is a head scratcher to me.
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We should expect better. Brown was a never was and Moore was winding down into retirement.
 
chipped ham said:
If that was the case, why the hell didn't they offer him up on a deal to move up in the 2nd? Now, maybe they did, maybe they didn't. We will never know. However, even if this kid is extremely talented, there's no need here. Should we expect about the same amount of production from him as we did lance Moore or justin brown? This pick is a head scratcher to me.
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wheaton will be the 4th wr , coates blocks very well if only learn to not drop to many balls (big if) .. he could be the next hines
 
Competition makes everyone better. The Steelers try to get competition at every position.
 
I get what you guys are all saying, I just don't see the need for it. Would've rather they took Amos. I feel the need for safety greatly outweighs the need for another receiver.
 
Guys, we NEEDED a receiver, and this is a great pick. At BEST, we were only three deep. And frankly, I'm not sold on Wheaton at all. Not writing him off, but to this point, he hasn't shown much. I really like our draft through two days.
 
Steelers use 3 WR as their main formation. If one of them gets injured then you are either playing DHB or you scrap the 3 WR set and have to change your whole offense.

Also, Antonio is already looking for more money. Good chance they can't keep him in a few years so you need replacements.


That's the logic of the pick but i don't understand why they are more worried about a 4th WR when they don't even have 2 quality CBs.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Steelers use 3 WR as their main formation. If one of them gets injured then you are either playing DHB or you scrap the 3 WR set and have to change your whole offense.

Also, Antonio is already looking for more money. Good chance they can't keep him in a few years so you need replacements.


That's the logic of the pick but i don't understand why they are more worried about a 4th WR when they don't even have 2 quality CBs.
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you had me until you had Antonio leaving...... I don't see that happening. He already is in camp which showed me he is willing to work with the Steelers now and more than likely down the road too.
 
slashsteel said:
you had me until you had Antonio leaving...... I don't see that happening. He already is in camp which showed me he is willing to work with the Steelers now and more than likely down the road too.
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i'm sure Antonio would want to stay here but they may not have the cap room to make him the highest paid WR in the league which is likely what he will be looking for in his next contract.

They may not be able to afford Martavis if he keeps going like this. They had to let Wallace leave. They'll likely have to let either Brown or Bryant leave.
 
chipped ham said:
I get what you guys are all saying, I just don't see the need for it. Would've rather they took Amos. I feel the need for safety greatly outweighs the need for another receiver.
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They must be comfortable with Shamarko. It's hard for us to know how good Shamarko is since we don't see practice. He's been a bit injury prone, and they were never going to sit Troy as long as he was here, so you can't really read to much into Thomas' lack of playing time. I'll say one thing, this offense is going to be something else.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Steelers use 3 WR as their main formation. If one of them gets injured then you are either playing DHB or you scrap the 3 WR set and have to change your whole offense.

Also, Antonio is already looking for more money. Good chance they can't keep him in a few years so you need replacements.


That's the logic of the pick but i don't understand why they are more worried about a 4th WR when they don't even have 2 quality CBs.
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I'm with you all the way on this. The lack of players in the secondary is why I'm indifferent on the pick. Every write up has nothing but good things written about him. He also put up some insane stats in some big games so he definitely shows up when he's needed. But, like I said, the need in the defensive backfield outweighs the need for a #4 WR. We don't know what we're gonna see in Shark Thomas and another corner is a must.
 
steelermania said:
They must be comfortable with Shamarko. It's hard for us to know how good Shamarko is since we don't see practice. He's been a bit injury prone, and they were never going to sit Troy as long as he was here, so you can't really read to much into Thomas' lack of playing time. I'll say one thing, this offense is going to be something else.
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that or they see this draft for what it is weak at S.
 
slashsteel said:
We should expect better. Brown was a never was and Moore was winding down into retirement.
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Justin Brown was released before the season was over to make room for another DL when Keisel got hurt.

tapeANaspirin2it said:
Steelers use 3 WR as their main formation. If one of them gets injured then you are either playing DHB or you scrap the 3 WR set and have to change your whole offense.

Also, Antonio is already looking for more money. Good chance they can't keep him in a few years so you need replacements.


That's the logic of the pick but i don't understand why they are more worried about a 4th WR when they don't even have 2 quality CBs.
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You need a #4 WR and a #5 WR if you're going to run five wide *******!!! Of course there's always Dri Archer.
 
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Mann raved about Coates being able to play in the slot. That may be why they took him.
 
You can never have enough WR's. When there is a chance to lose one or two each year, you take one when you can.
 
The pick has nothing to do with Wheaton, we needed a #4 or 5 guy for depth at WR. 3 starters plus Heyward Bey isn't enough. That's not to say he won't pass up Wheaton on the depth chart at some point in the future and/or be inserted at the slot.
 
tape gets it.

tapeANaspirin2it said:
i'm sure Antonio would want to stay here but they may not have the cap room to make him the highest paid WR in the league which is likely what he will be looking for in his next contract.

They may not be able to afford Martavis if he keeps going like this. They had to let Wallace leave. They'll likely have to let either Brown or Bryant leave.
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Its never a mistake to take BPA and stockpile, well unless you are stockpiling punters and kickers, I guess...
 
They needed a 4th WR and with AB raising a fuss, you never know next year because AB's agent will be pulling even more crap and the Steelers aren't going to extend him until 1 year left on his contract. Also, Wheaton and Bryant are very young and still both unproven. We'll know what we have with Wheaton and Bryant after this year. Always need to bring in good, young players at the top skill positions.
 
Here is WR coach Richard Mann on ESPN 970 a few minutes after the pick, he talks about coaching up Coates to catch better but mostly Mann talks about Coates ability & willingness to block.
Almost sounds like a hybrid WR/TE position.

starts about 1 min in
http://www.970espn.com/media/podcast-david-todd-David_Todd/5215-david-with-richard-mann-26018898/

As mentioned before and something to keep in mind with this "new" NFL, multiple WR are a need not a luxury. 3WR is the base formation now, no more good ole Power-I
 
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