Now Josh Gordon did FAIL at drugs again

[antdrewjosh]

Off topic but about the Browns so I will place it here.

Factory of Sadness indeed

The smart people in 2011 said the bounty Atlanta GM Thomas Dimitroff paid the Browns to move up 21 spots in the draft to pick Julio Jones was excessive. Two ones, a two and two fours is quite a premium to move from 27 to six. “Probably one of the greatest trades in draft history,” Cleveland coach Pat Shurmur said then.
Five years is probably adequate time to judge a trade, so let’s see.
For the Falcons, Jones caught 12 passes for 300 yards Sunday in a 48-33 victory over Carolina. It’s the sixth time in NFL history that a player has amassed 300 receiving yards in a game. Jones led the NFL in receiving yards last year. He leads the NFL in receiving yards this year. He’s 27.
For the Browns, the five players acquired through those draft picks—Phil Taylor, Greg Little, Owen Marecic, Trent Richardson and Brandon Weeden—are no longer on the team.

Phil Taylor, Greg Little, Owen Marecic, Trent Richardson and Brandon Weeden did not play Sunday in the NFL. In fact, none of them dressed. Weeden’s a third-string quarterback in Houston. Taylor’s on IR in Denver. The other three are out of football.
Atlanta’s 3-1 this morning. Cleveland, 0-4, is the only winless team in the NFL.
Shurmur turned out to be half-right. It was one of the greatest trades in draft history—for Atlanta.

 

[Hines57]

Off topic but about the Browns so I will place it here.

Factory of Sadness indeed

The smart people in 2011 said the bounty Atlanta GM Thomas Dimitroff paid the Browns to move up 21 spots in the draft to pick Julio Jones was excessive. Two ones, a two and two fours is quite a premium to move from 27 to six. “Probably one of the greatest trades in draft history,” Cleveland coach Pat Shurmur said then.
Five years is probably adequate time to judge a trade, so let’s see.
For the Falcons, Jones caught 12 passes for 300 yards Sunday in a 48-33 victory over Carolina. It’s the sixth time in NFL history that a player has amassed 300 receiving yards in a game. Jones led the NFL in receiving yards last year. He leads the NFL in receiving yards this year. He’s 27.
For the Browns, the five players acquired through those draft picks—Phil Taylor, Greg Little, Owen Marecic, Trent Richardson and Brandon Weeden—are no longer on the team.

Phil Taylor, Greg Little, Owen Marecic, Trent Richardson and Brandon Weeden did not play Sunday in the NFL. In fact, none of them dressed. Weeden’s a third-string quarterback in Houston. Taylor’s on IR in Denver. The other three are out of football.
Atlanta’s 3-1 this morning. Cleveland, 0-4, is the only winless team in the NFL.
Shurmur turned out to be half-right. It was one of the greatest trades in draft history—for Atlanta.

They could and have literally ****** up a wet dream

 

[POP]

Not one human being on earth - literally NOT ONE - gives a flying **** about your stupid *** fantasy football team ... enough of your stupid ****, POOP.

As usual, you're ******* wrong. I don't know how one pimple can be so dim. Who cares about my team other than me?

1.) My team co-owner
2.) My wife (she will get to enjoy the cash too).
3.) All 11 other teams in my league, since if I win it all, they do not.

So, once again, barrister, you're simply wrong and look like the imbecile you are.

Now, go chase ambulances, you rat.

By the way, how close is your house to a swimmable beach? Is it beach front property as you have implied?

 

[POP]

What precisely would you call his state, if not addiction? What other possible excuse could there be for throwing away tens of millions of dollars, twice and now likely facing as much as 5 to 10 years in a federal prison for interstate smuggling?

If that's not "addiction", I guess I'm confused about what you'd feel would qualify.

It's not physically possible to be addicted to weed; there are no withdrawal symptoms and this is a fact not an opinion. What else could you call it? Try stupidity and a complete lack of self-control, IF this really is all about weed. If not, then that's a different story.

 

[antdrewjosh]

It's not physically possible to be addicted to weed; there are no withdrawal symptoms and this is a fact not an opinion. What else could you call it? Try stupidity and a complete lack of self-control, IF this really is all about weed. If not, then that's a different story.

As a person who kicked the habit I disagree it was very tough

 

[CoolieMan]

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive

Marijuana use can lead to the development of problem use, known as a marijuana use disorder, which in severe cases takes the form of addiction. Recent data suggest that 30 percent of marijuana users may have some degree of marijuana use disorder. People who begin using marijuana before the age of 18 are 4 to 7 times more likely to develop a marijuana use disorder than adults.

Marijuana use disorders are often associated with dependence—in which a user feels withdrawal symptoms when not taking the drug. Frequent marijuana users often report irritability, mood and sleep difficulties, decreased appetite, cravings, restlessness, and/or various forms of physical discomfort that peak within the first week after quitting and last up to 2 weeks. Marijuana dependence occurs when the brain adapts to large amounts of the drug by reducing production of and sensitivity to its own endocannabinoid neurotransmitters

 

[Stryker]

I have to say that I now care about Pop's fantasy football team. I'm now rooting for him to lose his league ....

 

[POP]

As a person who kicked the habit I disagree it was very tough

It may have been "tough" but did you have physical withdrawal issues? In order for it to be considered "addictive" that would have to be the case.

 

[POP]

I have to say that I now care about Pop's fantasy football team. I'm now rooting for him to lose his league ....

You will be saddened to discover, I am ranked as one of the best teams in the league.

That Pryor signing literally won my game for me this week.

 

[antdrewjosh]

It may have been "tough" but did you have physical withdrawal issues? In order for it to be considered "addictive" that would have to be the case.

user feels withdrawal symptoms when not taking the drug. Frequent marijuana users often report irritability, mood and sleep difficulties, decreased appetite, cravings, restlessness,


Definitely had all of those

 

[SteelBuckeye]

It may have been "tough" but did you have physical withdrawal issues? In order for it to be considered "addictive" that would have to be the case.

Sooooo, you're just going to disregard the information that Coolie posted for you in post #31 and focus on Andrew's personal experience with the drug to bolster your assertion that Marijuana isn't addictive? Seems legit .... in a "if it doesn't fit my worldview, I'll ignore it" kinda way

 

[Ike Kelly]

It's not physically possible to be addicted to weed; there are no withdrawal symptoms and this is a fact not an opinion. What else could you call it? Try stupidity and a complete lack of self-control, IF this really is all about weed. If not, then that's a different story.

Pop, stick to your opinionated views on sports in this forum. Your casual commentary regarding substance abuse really acknowledges a lack of understanding or clinical knowledge on the subject matter. I would guess it really does not help your station on this board. Not that you care the least. But, if you are going to try to articulate some applicable input on the general subject. Try to have some basic knowledge about it before posting comments regarding it.

 

[POP]

user feels withdrawal symptoms when not taking the drug. Frequent marijuana users often report irritability, mood and sleep difficulties, decreased appetite, cravings, restlessness,


Definitely had all of those

Those may be possible, But I am talking about REAL withdrawal symptoms, not just being irritable or restless. Hell, coffee withdrawal is tougher than what you describe.

Physical Withdrawal Symptoms

Sweating
Racing heart
Palpitations
Muscle tension
Tightness in the chest
Difficulty breathing
Tremor
Nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea
Dangerous Withdrawal Symptoms

Alcohol and tranquilizers produce the most dangerous physical withdrawal. Suddenly stopping alcohol or tranquilizers can lead to seizures, strokes, or heart attacks in high risk patients. A medically supervised detox can minimize your withdrawal symptoms and reduce the risk of dangerous complications. Some of the dangerous symptoms of alcohol and tranquillizer withdrawal are:

Grand mal seizures
Heart attacks
Strokes
Hallucinations
Delirium tremens (DTs)

Show me where weed causes the above.

Yea, that's what I thought: run away from facts and pretend you didn't see this.

 

[POP]

Pop, stick to your opinionated views on sports in this forum. Your casual commentary regarding substance abuse really acknowledges a lack of understanding or clinical knowledge on the subject matter. I would guess it really does not help your station on this board. Not that you care the least. But, if you are going to try to articulate some applicable input on the general subject. Try to have some basic knowledge about it before posting comments regarding it.

Yea, you can tell me what to post, like, never. Anyone claiming weed is physically addictive is just ignorant.. Oh, no, you might get in a bad mood if you stop puffing. Oh no. Try looking at REAL withdrawal symptoms and then come talk to me.

Physical Withdrawal Symptoms

Sweating
Racing heart
Palpitations
Muscle tension
Tightness in the chest
Difficulty breathing
Tremor
Nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea
Dangerous Withdrawal Symptoms

Alcohol and tranquilizers produce the most dangerous physical withdrawal. Suddenly stopping alcohol or tranquilizers can lead to seizures, strokes, or heart attacks in high risk patients. A medically supervised detox can minimize your withdrawal symptoms and reduce the risk of dangerous complications. Some of the dangerous symptoms of alcohol and tranquillizer withdrawal are:

Grand mal seizures
Heart attacks
Strokes
Hallucinations
Delirium tremens (DTs)

I've had family members suffering true addiction, and none of it was comparable to weed, in any way, whatsoever. So get educated or just look the fool. Those are your two choices.

I know another guy who had to be hospitalized for opiate and booze addiction, and he nearly died, and was hallucinating like a mother ******. Tell me when weed causes that. Oh, and being irritable hardly qualifies. Coffee drinkers go through more than that when they go without. Pullllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Yea, you can tell me what to post, like, never. Anyone claiming weed is physically addictive is just ignorant.. Oh, no, you might get in a bad mood if you stop puffing. Oh no. Try looking at REAL withdrawal symptoms and then come talk to me.



I've had family members suffering true addiction, and none of it was comparable to weed, in any way, whatsoever. So get educated or just look the fool. Those are your two choices.

Smh

 

[POP]

Sooooo, you're just going to disregard the information that Coolie posted for you in post #31 and focus on Andrew's personal experience with the drug to bolster your assertion that Marijuana isn't addictive? Seems legit .... in a "if it doesn't fit my worldview, I'll ignore it" kinda way

I stick to facts, not someone's imagination or some psuedo science.

 

[Ike Kelly]

The link Coolie posted is from the NHI. If you peruse through it you can find valuable information based on various test groups and fact finding studies on the subject. Not to mention just reviewing the AJM on cannibas abuse, you can review a plethora of case studies on the subject, including placebo reviews and medical opinions regarding THC being a prime contributor to psychological disorders much more than originally viewed.

Really,.....can we get this out of the football forum? Unless you are a professional on the subject, your opinion on whether a former addict had severe withdrawals or WHAT you specify is withdrawal is ridiculous, not to mention almost asinine. Gheez Pop, you seem intelligent enough, think about it.

As for Gordon, his career in the NFL is probably over as long as Goodell is commish.

 

[Ike Kelly]

Yea, you can tell me what to post, like, never. Anyone claiming weed is physically addictive is just ignorant.. Oh, no, you might get in a bad mood if you stop puffing. Oh no. Try looking at REAL withdrawal symptoms and then come talk to me.



I've had family members suffering true addiction, and none of it was comparable to weed, in any way, whatsoever. So get educated or just look the fool. Those are your two choices.

I know another guy who had to be hospitalized for opiate and booze addiction, and he nearly died, and was hallucinating like a mother ******. Tell me when weed causes that. Oh, and being irritable hardly qualifies. Coffee drinkers go through more than that when they go without. Pullllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I don't think I told not to post on the board, rather stick to subjects more applicable to you. Your statements on substance abuse is what's ignorant, considering you have inclined you've witnessed family succomb to it. Plus equating caffeine addiction withdrawal to substance abuse withdrawal......well, ignorant is a polite word. You mentioned facts where are yours? Better yet why not discuss it with a Board Certified Pain Management Specialist and Psychiatrist. Maybe you can be enlightened a bit about your ignorance.

 

[CoolieMan]

pop has no interest in facts...only his opinions which he considers facts...I didn't pull info from some bullshit site like he does in the Religion/Politics forum....but it doesn't fit his preconceived ideas so it is pseudo science....

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

I stick to facts, not someone's imagination or some psuedo science.

That's ******* rich! then what the hell do you call the **** you post in Politics/Religion if not imagination and pseudo science. You really need to learn when to shut up and stop proving how stupid you are. Remember it is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.

 

[Steeltime]

POOP demands that we respect his final word on the subject, give up the debate, and raise the white flag.

 

[Stryker]

I have a degree in psychology. One of the classifications of a drug is that it is an addictive substance. You can further categorize some drugs as being more or less potent and having more or less effect. It still doesn't change the fact that ALL drugs are addictive. Mary Jane (THC), Beer (Alcohol), cigarettes (Nicotine), or even Coffee (caffeine) have withdrawal symptoms if you are a heavy user (meaning you use that drug once a day).

THC is a depressant, just like Alcohol. If you already have a chemical imbalance and are predisposed to depression, these drugs are the absolute worst for you. They have more of an effect and are more addictive to those who are bipolar or suicidal.

Just because you don't share those issues, doesn't mean they don't exist.

 

[Confluence]

Heres a good one

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...of-marijuana-onto-plane/ar-BBwQ5w6?li=BBnb7Kz

Based on a new report, Josh Gordon’s decision to enter rehab may not have been as innocent as it has been made to appear.

According to Lane Adkins of Orange and Brown Report, the troubled Cleveland Browns receiver tried smuggling nearly a pound of marijuana onto a plane recently.

“According to sources, Gordon entered Cleveland Hopkins Airport via an underground entrance and was escorted to the upper level to pass through security for his flight. He was accompanied by a member of his security detail. A TSA representative on the upper level recognized Gordon and his security from the below ground level just moments prior. Due to the strange nature of Gordon being shuffled through the airport, the TSA pulled Gordon aside, checked baggage in the possession of he and his security and found what our source tells us was nearly one pound of pot in their possession.”

The difference between this guy and Bam Morris is that Bam was far higher up in the distribution plan. And slightly less stupid.

 

[jitter77]

I can't believe he would try to smuggle pot on a plane. Surely he could buy pot anywhere..not sure what the rules are, but 1 pound of pot seems like a good bit..could he get jail time?

 

[Steeltime]

2.) My wife (she will get to enjoy the cash too).

Your wife is undoubtedly glad that your ugly face is looking at your fantasy football team and she does not have to interact with you.

So again, nobody gives a flying **** about your stupid fantasy football team. And for you to believe that is not true only underscores your limited education and special-ed, window-licking life experience.

Oh, and by the by, do you hang your GED certificate on the wall?