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NFL combine thread and link

Cleveland has so many picks and assets they could theoretically trade up from #4 to #2 and then not have to worry about Giants or Colts taking anyone they want.

Giants might have something different in mind or a different QB and would get some needed picks.

Once Cleveland gets #1 and #2, they could take the QB first, give him the bigger contract and take Barkley #2 overall. Or leverage the #1 overall pick to get better contract deals with both players.





YOU better HOPE Haslem doesn't see this




Delz : I love football and actually have commen sense ........


Haslem : deljzc,...... My man, How about I make you rich with a lot of CENTS..............You're HIRED


As deljzc skips off into the promise land he only has a few things to Remeber

1.) don't take a SOLDER first round.
2.) skip all medical relevance within their facility
3.) QBs don't last long
4.) stay grounded to your roots as you'll be back soon................................




Salute the nation
 
Just saw his bench. Had me all choked up thinking what this kid had to endure growing up one handed.

Bravo to him I hope he makes it.

all choked up???

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He is no longer just a feel good story. Wow wow wow
 
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Bruh, I watched the kid play against Auburn and he's no joke. If I'm PIT - he's on my radar...

I watched three or four UCF games last year. He stood out in every single one of them and his timed speed is no joke because he plays fast.
 
Vander Esch runs a 4.66

This is very good speed for a guy 250+ pounds. I want to see his 20 Yd Shuttle and cone times, but I'm getting interested. A player of this height and speed can over TE's.

For reference, Lawerence Timmons ran a 4.67 at the combine, and wasn't nearly as tall or heavy.

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=7819

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/leighton-vander esch?id=32462018-0002-5602-32a6-0b4e5b5e883e

Vander Esch also beefed up like 15 lbs since the college season ended. He was probably a little faster at his playing weight in college.

That Griffen kid is going to be taken by someone in the early rounds.
 
Very true. If the Browns have a good GM, they rebuild and win some game in 2018

Yep. I agree. One game is one more than last year anyways...It is a start I guess. Maybe 2019 they might win 2 games...or maybe 3. I guess baby steps is a start.
 
If the Browns are smart, they take Barkley at 1 and the best QB left at 4. Barkley is an instant difference maker and they have proven over the last 2 decades that they can and will **** up any QB they draft. So, no need to take a QB at No.1 when you can at 4. Their O should be instantly better and their D is actually already pretty good. They'll win a few games this year if they do that.
 
If the Browns are smart, they take Barkley at 1 and the best QB left at 4. Barkley is an instant difference maker and they have proven over the last 2 decades that they can and will **** up any QB they draft. So, no need to take a QB at No.1 when you can at 4. Their O should be instantly better and their D is actually already pretty good. They'll win a few games this year if they do that.

This would definitely be the smart move unless they think one of the quarterbacks is head and shoulders above the rest. I'm not sure that is the case in this particular draft.
 
Vander Esch runs a 4.66

This is very good speed for a guy 250+ pounds. I want to see his 20 Yd Shuttle and cone times, but I'm getting interested. A player of this height and speed can over TE's.

For reference, Lawerence Timmons ran a 4.67 at the combine, and wasn't nearly as tall or heavy.

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=7819

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/leighton-vander esch?id=32462018-0002-5602-32a6-0b4e5b5e883e


Difference is, Timmons played for FSU- while LVE has one year of production at Boise freggin St.


My problem with LVE is that he looked so stiff in the drills, and he certainly doesn't look like that all-around athlete that can lock down TEs/Slot WR's (i.e. Shazier).

Evans, on the other hand, looked a lot smoother. I think Im beginning to warm up to him.
 
Difference is, Timmons played for FSU- while LVE has one year of production at Boise freggin St.


My problem with LVE is that he looked so stiff in the drills, and he certainly doesn't look like that all-around athlete that can lock down TEs/Slot WR's (i.e. Shazier).

Evans, on the other hand, looked a lot smoother. I think Im beginning to warm up to him.

Three knocks against the kid.

Level of competition.
1 Year Wonder
Injury past

Steelers usually don't take these types in round 1.
 
UCF is my college team and I love Shaquem...so happy to see him murdering it out there.
 
Saw Cedric Wilson Jr. If the Steelers got him somehow. Late pick or UFA Ben would throw to the Father and the Son. Wonder if that has ever happened before in the NFL.
 
Saw Cedric Wilson Jr. If the Steelers got him somehow. Late pick or UFA Ben would throw to the Father and the Son. Wonder if that has ever happened before in the NFL.

I don't believe so.
 
Bruh, I watched the kid play against Auburn and he's no joke. If I'm PIT - he's on my radar...

He rushed a lot in that game. I don't think I would rush him a lot. Not sure that would be his strength.

I think he has good range, not overly big. Maybe S might be his position like his brother.

Put him at SS, probably the approach I would start with.
 
I think Gesicki may have put himself into the first round. This draft does not have top flight WRs. They all have questions. Gesicki may be the best value as a playmaker towards the end of round 1.

Steelers pick late. I doubt they'd target TE in RD 1 but if there are no DBs or LBs of value at that spot, Gesicki could be in play.


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