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NFL admits they missed the call in the EZ in at the end of the Seattle/Detroit game

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shocked, I am.




"You can't bat the ball in any direction in the end zone. K.J. Wright batted the football, that is a foul for an illegal bat," NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino said on NFL Network following the game.

"The back judge was on the play. In his judgment, he didn't feel it was an overt act, so he didn't throw the flag. In looking at the replays, it did look like a bat. So the enforcement would be, basically we'd go back to the spot of the fumble, and Detroit would keep the football."

Blandino also admitted, "We have to make that call."
 
Ziggy Hood comes to mind immediately
 
This is where instant replay is failing the league. They stop the game for any manner of infractions and then at the most critical time a play of that magnitude can not be reviewed. I can't even begin to explain how much I hate instant replay and this "we have to get it right" attitude and then at the most critical juncture of the game they don't care to get it right.

Papillon
 
The NFL has extremely serious integrity issues of late.

Thanks Roggie!
 
What burns me up about the play is that there was an official staring right at the guy batting the ball out of bounds and he had no response!!!!!!! Unbelievable!!!!
 
Bill Belichick would have known and raised a fit. Jim Caldwell? Not so much.
 
While it was clear he batted the ball, it is not like there was a Lion there trying to recover it. He just as easily could have grabbed the ball or just went out of bounds and let the ball bounce off of his chest on the way to knock it out with him.

Johnson fumbling at the 1 lost the Lions the game....this is just made up drama.......
 
CoolieMan said:
While it was clear he batted the ball, it is not like there was a Lion there trying to recover it. He just as easily could have grabbed the ball or just went out of bounds and let the ball bounce off of his chest on the way to knock it out with him.

Johnson fumbling at the 1 lost the Lions the game....this is just made up drama.......
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Is that how the entire game should called then? If an infraction doesn't effect the outcome just let it slide? There is already too much subjectivity in officiating a game, no need to add to it by having referees attempting to determine if making a call changes what would have happened without the penalty. IMO, the refereeing should be blind to the situation of the game and simply make the calls and then let the teams determine the outcome. I get what you're saying that ball was going out of bounds without Wright's help, but the reality is that he purposely guided the ball out, it's a penalty and should have been called.

Of course, Johnson should have protected the ball better, he had already made a first down. At that point ball security is paramount to scoring a TD.

Papillon
 
Don't they do that already with pass interference? The ball was not catchable sort of thing?
 
paperclip said:
How can a call like that not be reviewable?? What a joke.
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don't fumble the football at the goaline and it wouldn't have been a problem


I am totally against stopping play and reviewing every little thing - it's not football. It was a judgement call, lots of them every game, leave it at that
 
Spike said:
don't fumble the football at the goaline and it wouldn't have been a problem


I am totally against stopping play and reviewing every little thing - it's not football. It was a judgement call, lots of them every game, leave it at that
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Then they should eliminate instant replay completely, every call is a judgment call made by the referees, were both feet in or not, was he down before the fumble, did the player intentionally bat the ball OOB, was the quarterback in the pocket, was the receiver past 5 yards, it goes on and on. If you're going to call the game with instant replay then everything should be reviewable, not only certain selected types of plays. That's what I don't like about it, either use it or don't, but not something in the middle or when it is convenient.

Papillon
 
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When I saw him bat it out, I wondered if that was ok. I knew there was some kind rule about that, but couldn't remember what it was exactly. He could have just grabbed it in air and then fell down. I do think there was a slim and none chance of a Lion recovering that and slim had left town. However, the back judge saying that he didn't think it was a deliberate enough swat out of bounds is full of crap. I saw him hit it at live speed and that official is right there on the endline looking right at the guy knock it out, come on.
 
I don't buy the "it didn't affect the play" or the "he shouldn't have fumbled" argument. The rules are the rules. What good are they if we can subjectively pick and choose when to enforce them?
 
papillon said:
If you're going to call the game with instant replay then everything should be reviewable, not only certain selected types of plays. That's what I don't like about it, either use it or don't, but not something in the middle or when it is convenient.
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Then games will take 8 hrs and it will completely ruin the game - screw that - I don't want every play to be reviewed for missed holding calls, facemasks and all that. Ridiculous.
 
Spike said:
Then games will take 8 hrs and it will completely ruin the game - screw that - I don't want every play to be reviewed for missed holding calls, facemasks and all that. Ridiculous.
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Don't be obtuse.

They already limit your number of challenges during the game, and in the last 2 minutes of each half only the refs can call for review. And since that play occurred with under 2 minutes left, the refs could have and should have reviewed it.

Calling for every play to be reviewable doesn't mean that EVERY play WILL be reviewed, just that all plays are eligible.
 
If you're going to call the game with instant replay then everything should be reviewable, not only certain selected types of plays

that's what I was responding to
 
Imagine if at the end of the season, Arizona St. Louis and Seattle are all within a game for best record in that division.
 
I was stunned to learn that at least some replays don't use slow-mo. So the NFL has decided that if you can't ascertain that the call was blown while watching the replay in real time, don't reverse the call.

What sense does that make?
 
Spike said:
Then games will take 8 hrs and it will completely ruin the game - screw that - I don't want every play to be reviewed for missed holding calls, facemasks and all that. Ridiculous.
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Okay, then how do you determine which plays should and shouldn't? This play wasn't a judgment call at all, its plain as day that KJ Wright batted the ball OOB an illegal play, yet it was allowed to stand. I guess to the NFL they can tolerate some illegal plays to stand but not others, its ludicrous and its ruining the game. After each call we now have to listen to Blandino, Pereira and Carey blather on and on about football moves, an elbow is the same as two feet, inside the pocket outside the pocket, blah, blah, blah, but an obvious oversight can't be fixed. That's what's ridiculous.

The game was far better before challenge flags and instant replay to over turn calls. Let the officials officiate the game, they get it right more times than not.

Papillon
 
Troglodyte said:
I was stunned to learn that at least some replays don't use slow-mo. So the NFL has decided that if you can't ascertain that the call was blown while watching the replay in real time, don't reverse the call.

What sense does that make?
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None, same as the rest of the instant replay rules and regulations. Oh, lets get it right, except if we have to use slow-motion to get it right, then just do the best you can. I love it.

Papillon
 
papillon said:
Okay, then how do you determine which plays should and shouldn't? This play wasn't a judgment call at all, its plain as day that KJ Wright batted the ball OOB an illegal play, yet it was allowed to stand. I guess to the NFL they can tolerate some illegal plays to stand but not others, its ludicrous and its ruining the game. After each call we now have to listen to Blandino, Pereira and Carey blather on and on about football moves, an elbow is the same as two feet, inside the pocket outside the pocket, blah, blah, blah, but an obvious oversight can't be fixed. That's what's ridiculous.

The game was far better before challenge flags and instant replay to over turn calls. Let the officials officiate the game, they get it right more times than not.

Papillon
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I agree - except when the reviewd calls help us win games! - ha ha
 
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