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Myles Jack says he was waiting for the Steelers to panic

SteelerSask2 said:
I've said it a million times. If Tomlin would surround himself with top people he would be fine. Instead it's bottom feeders which is why he had the big initial success and then has faded badly. Top quality assistants replaced by ****** yes men.
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Tomlin is a narcissist and just can't keep himself from getting in the way! No assistant coach or position coach wants to come here because Tomlin inserts himself into their job too much. So, Tomlin is left bring in guys who are subpar and career travelers, because at least they have a job! I'm not sure if he can bring in someone of top quality because of this.
 
Best case scenario

We win, Shades puts another mediocrity trophy in the case BUT don’t get the help and then we can end the season on that high note basking in the glory of a 9-8 season and avoid the impending WC blowout on the horizon

Winning 🏆
 
bermudasteel said:
They also went 2-6 after losing TJ for those games. Minkah and some other key defensive players were out in some of those games too.

Tribby and Kenny weren't making great decisions at QB either.

I wonder who's idea it was to trade Claypool to Chicago mid-season??? Coach Tomlin couldn't be THAT savvy--- could he???

Lest ye all forget...

The past two seasons we've been pitted against the perennial Superbowl champions in the Bengals and the Bills for the first game of the season. We destroyed both teams when we played them.

Give Coach Tomlin his grief when it's necessary because he is not perfect; but to simply not give him some well deserved credit after losing the best QB this team has ever seen and still having a mediocre record... well, that family, is nothing short of a miracle.

Now who's gonna make me a sammich???
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Perennial Super Bowl champion Bengals and Bills? And the Steelers didn’t destroy the Bengals, they were actually fortunate to win. Regardless, my comment was more about the overall talent of the team. I think the Steelers are still an OL or two, a CB or two from being a Super Bowl contender.
 
At one point, (it could have been at 2-6) they had like the 5th worse record in the nfl.. they lost to THE ENTIRE AFC EAST, who, at one point, held every afc wild card spot plus the division automatic playoffs spot… there were only two teams worse then them in the AFC.
They were in spot 14.. because of the lack of tiebreakers, at the halfway point of the season they basically had to outplay 7 teams by anywhere from 1 to 4 wins in the back half of the season to get a wild card… the path to the division was by far the more statistically plausible route.. they are one of three teams that may make the playoffs this season after being 2-6, a very weird thing because that has only happened twice before in at least the past 56 years of NFL play…

They were logically dead in the water…
 
alancac98 said:
Tomlin is a narcissist and just can't keep himself from getting in the way! No assistant coach or position coach wants to come here because Tomlin inserts himself into their job too much. So, Tomlin is left bring in guys who are subpar and career travelers, because at least they have a job! I'm not sure if he can bring in someone of top quality because of this.
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As much as I'm tired of Tomlin I don't agree with the whys. Like maybe he only gets so much say in those hires. Maybe he is a poor evaluator of coaching talent. Maybe his connection to younger innovative coaches has dried up. There doesn't have to be some egomaniacal narcissist reasons. In fact for all the flack I give Tomlin, I'd sit down and have a joke pack of beer with him any day and I would find it difficult to bring up my list of grievances. And I think the vast majority here would do the same. And plenty intimidated to bring up the failures.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
And GOOD coaches can usually just avoid those pesky 2-6 starts

Great…woke up from pissing down your leg half a season and want some sort of comeback trophy…laughable

He may still get the team to his ceiling-average
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How's McVay doing this year? To say good coaches can avoid 2-6 starts is myopic, especially if they've been coaching over a decade.

You're going to have down years, and this was one for us. To right the ship is the sign of a good coach. To continue losing, is McVay.
 
bermudasteel said:
Joe Burrow disagrees with you...
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no he doesn't, you do. and if it's you that disagrees with me, i'm not all that concerned

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SteelerSask2 said:
As much as I'm tired of Tomlin I don't agree with the whys. Like maybe he only gets so much say in those hires. Maybe he is a poor evaluator of coaching talent. Maybe his connection to younger innovative coaches has dried up. There doesn't have to be some egomaniacal narcissist reasons. In fact for all the flack I give Tomlin, I'd sit down and have a joke pack of beer with him any day and I would find it difficult to bring up my list of grievances. And I think the vast majority here would do the same. And plenty intimidated to bring up the failures.
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speak for yourself, squeaky titz
 
SteelerSask2 said:
Always like the bigger talkers. Would end up.......buh.buh. buh but Mr. Tomlin.
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mike tomlin is flesh and bone, just like you or me. the same creator of the universe that brought him into existence, brought me into existence. why would i be intimidated by him? i mean, if you're the type of guy that becomes easily intimidated, then i guess it would make sense? *shrugs*
 
Omar10213245 said:
mike tomlin is flesh and bone, just like you or me. the same creator of the universe that brought him into existence, brought me into existence. why would i be intimidated by him? i mean, if you're the type of guy that becomes easily intimidated, then i guess it would make sense? *shrugs*
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I'm not saying physically. I'm saying if you sat down with MT and aired your grievances and he was being fully honest no PC bullshit, he would make your head spin with the realities of the Steelers that you have no idea about. Now does that absolve him of responsibility. No. Does it not mean he should go. No. But there is a lot at work here and he would make a mockery of you with his football knowledge little lone his insider franchise knowledge.
 
I hadn't even looked at the other side of this, but Jacksonville was also 2-6 and have won 6 of their last 8 games. Now they're in control of their own destiny in a win and in scenario tonight. Trevor Lawrence is also playing excellent football right now.
 
I'm not the biggest Tomlin supporter, but anyone going into this year expecting it to be anything but a rough ride was just delusional from the get go. To be where we are at this point is quite impressive.

I saw a stat today that forced me to reconsider my thoughts on Tomlin. While he has his faults, in the 256 games he's been the head coach for our Steelers, there was only one game, let me emphasize that...ONE game in which we were eliminated from the playoffs.

If we can replace Canada next year, add some OL and DL, we can make some noise much earlier than expected
 
madinsomniac said:
The bottom line is Cowhers teams prided themselves on being “60 minute men”…Tomlins teams are between 24 minute men and maybe 47 minute men
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Tomlin's players are definitely 60-minute men ... just not in a row. 28 here, 32 there, 41 there, 19 over here.
 
I think it is really this simple: 1) There is a decent amount to like about Tomlin; 2) There is a decent amount to dislike about Tomlin; and 3) Tomlin is not going anywhere unless he chooses to. May as well support him and remember, we could be the Browns and have the coaching clusterduck they have had for years.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Best case scenario

We win, Shades puts another mediocrity trophy in the case BUT don’t get the help and then we can end the season on that high note basking in the glory of a 9-8 season and avoid the impending WC blowout on the horizon

Winning 🏆
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Drink IRON City said:
He is a “player’s coach”, no doubt about that. This team would play through hell for him and not think twice about it. That takes great coaching to get that on a player personal basis.

He has trouble with the Xs & Os of football, evident many times as shown on the field Of p[lay. There is also concern on his management of coaching personal / talent evaluation to a degree / …

One of the biggest issues is his non-hot-seat persona. This may not be Coach Tomlin’s fault but he is a benefactor of it. There is no accountability to on field coaching results thus making him extremely complacent in his ways. Couple that with the Rooney Rule and he has a guaranteed job with few consequences.

That above paragraph is a lot of why he gets so much “non-love” from the dedicated deep fans. The common fan base love him, but the deeper base fan sees’ through the curtain so to speak. This message board STEELERNATION.COM is compraised of the “deeper” fan base, thus having a deeper sense of football knowledge. That is why he gets so much negative here And justfully so to a degree.

I do not have any problems with the MAN on any level. I fully do think his time is nearing an end after 24’ and justfully so. I also think he will have troubles duplicating elsewhere what he has done here.


Salute the nation
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We have a lot of fans that are very intelligent. way more than me. But none of us know anything about running/coaching an NFL team
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Best case scenario

We win, Shades puts another mediocrity trophy in the case BUT don’t get the help and then we can end the season on that high note basking in the glory of a 9-8 season and avoid the impending WC blowout on the horizon

Winning 🏆
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okay coach jr
 
BLITZ said:
We have a lot of fans that are very intelligent. way more than me. But none of us know anything about running/coaching an NFL team
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Okay. But even average fans know a good deal about using timeouts at the end of a half, clock management in general, and challenges. For some reason, Tomlin still cannot manage those tasks.
 
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