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Miracles will Never Cease: A Response from a Sensible Bengals Fan (finally)

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Posted on the Bengal's forum... and believe it or not, he's taking a lot of heat:
I treat my sports teams the way I would the child I'll probably never have. When they screw up, I know that other factors are often in play and I'll acknowledge them, but I usually still end up holding them more accountable than anything else, and I rarely buy their excuses.

If your child does something dumb - as all children do - do you care that his/her buddies were also complicit? Do you really care what the excuses or the reasons are? Do you really care about what made them misbehave?

No. Not if you're a good parent.

On Saturday night, the Bengals lost a game that I believe serves as the worst loss in the 47-year history of the franchise (Yes, worse than both Super Bowls), which is going to take an entire offseason, and perhaps beyond, to emotionally recover from.

Whatever you call this mixture of emotions that all Bengals fans are feeling, I certainly empathize. I posted this way-too-long entry on Friday morning, in part because I wanted to express exactly how much I wanted an elusive playoff victory. If you're one of those fans who felt physically ill after the game, I can relate. And if you laid in bed until Sunday morning's early hours contemplating everything that went wrong, I can assure you that you have a partner in insomnia here.

I'm not sure I could have done a radio show on Sunday. I called Sunday's UC/South Florida game in a total fog, and by Sunday evening, I was drained from the entire run of thoughts and emotions of the previous 24 or so hours.

The sting still felt fresh yesterday, the wound is still open today, and the anger is going to last a while.

I completely get it because I share it.

And I still blame the Bengals more than anyone or anything else.

The last couple of days have yielded a lot of emotions, and plenty of dissection of nearly everything that happened on Saturday night, and there's been no shortage of things to revisit, discuss, scrutinize, and debate. As much as I wish we were looking ahead to a game this Saturday in Foxborough, it's good for my businesss - not because the Bengals lost, but because the way they lost gave us no shortage of things to talk about.

But amid all of it, I still come back to the things the Bengals did to themselves, particularly in the final two minutes.

*There was a two-point conversion try that occurred with AJ Green on the sidelines and looked like it was barely even thought out.

*There was Jeremy Hill's fumble.

*There was the defensive strategy of letting Ben Roethlisberger dink and dunk his way downfield after he'd been carted off with a right shoulder injury that clearly left him unable to throw downfield.

*There was the inability of a good defense to get one more stop on a potentially game-ending fourth and three play.

*And then, of course, there were the penalties on Vontaze Burfict and Adam Jones.

The Bengals had numerous opportunities to either enhance their chances of winning or completely salt the game away, and they blew it.

The Stealers won, but the Bengals beat themselves. I felt that way on Saturday, I thought the same on Sunday, and I feel that way here on Tuesday morning.

I point the finger more than ever before at Marvin Lewis, and it's not just because of the loss or his stunning 0-7 playoff mark, it's because of the way they lost in the final minutes and the way his team melted down.

I can't get over two things....

1) That all week leading up to Saturday night's game, we wondered if the Bengals could successfully avoid losing their cool and if when thing started getting heated, the Bengals could remain composed. They were fair questions, based on the way the Bengals came unglued against the Stealers just four weeks earlier.

And you know what I didn't hear one person claim?

That we could be rest assured that Marvin Lewis would keep his team from melting down.

Seriously. do you know anyone who had complete confidence that Marvin would maintain complete control of his players?

2) That Marvin Lewis' playoff history is bookended by emotional collapses. When his team played the Stealers in the postseason ten years ago, something happened in the locker room at halftime. Accounts of what exactly went down differ, but we know that something happened, and while the Carson Palmer injury clearly had an effect that afternoon, the eventual loss has often been cited - and I believe accurately - as an instance in which the Bengals collapsed emotionally.

Every single roster spot has turned over since 2005. The common denominator remains the head coach.

His teams have rarely been known for being able to keep their cool, and while many Marvin teams have been celebrated for having a bit of an edge to them, the most sobering thing about the way some of his players lost their minds on Saturday night is that what happened really isn't all that surprising.

Throw in this: That of Marvin Lewis' seven playoff losses, his team's performance in a game during which they completely choked and embarrassed themselves was their best showing.

This was on the Bengals, and in turn, it was on Marvin Lewis.

Of course, some would rather deflect attention elsewhere.

Look, I want to be clear about this: The officials lost control of that game. The league has a major problem when it comes to how increasingly difficult this game is becoming to officiate and how nearly impossible it's become for the average fan to expect the refs to not get in the way. There were major issues the league needs to address with Saturday's game specifically, including the Ryan Shazier hit on Gio Bernard and Pittsburgh's resulting celebration of it, the Mike Munchak hair-pulling, why Joey Porter was allowed to come onto the field to successfully bait the Bengals into doing something stupid, why Adam Jones was flagged during such a critical, game-deciding moment, and how the NFL could justify using any of the officials from the December 13th game to work the playoff rematch.

I find the Stealers to be a team of hypocrites. I think Mike Tomlin runs a dirty team. And despite winning, Pittsburgh showed its *** just as much as the Bengals did. I think the regard with which the league and media holds the Rooney family helps them escape the scrutiny that would be aimed at any other team that operated the way the Stealers do.

The league itself, despite its popularity being at an all-time high, is developing a credibility issue with the quality of its officiating and the complexity of its rulebook. Maybe an offseason without a phony non-troversy like Deflategate will allow Roger Goodell sufficient time to address some growing problems with the way his game is called.

But I'm a Bengals fan, and so what they did to self-destruct and fail once again in the playoffs matters much, much more to me than anything the league, the officials, and the Stealers did to contribute.

And so I'm not combing though various Vines and YouTube videos of Saturday night's most controversial plays like I'm analyzing the Zapruder film. I'm not searching for the latest conspiracy theory - Hey! Did you hear the the head linesman had a brother who once had a layover at the Pittsburgh airport? - and I'm sorry, I appreciate the passion, but I'm not signing any petitions.

I'm focused on the Bengals, what they can control - which for now isn't themselves, what they do next, and most importantly, what they can do better.

Because if they're ever going to win anything meaningful they'll need to do better than they did on Saturday night.



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There are always sensible guys following every team... they just get drowned out by the bottom feeder extremists... there are steelers fans wishing death on people and acting douchey without provocation, but the majority do not... Bengal land its been a pretty much majority of senseless jackoffs either cause the sensible ones were in mourning, drowned out by the noise, or simply not wishing to engage the rabblerousing nitwits.

This guy has a good perspective... he hates the steelers, that's his right... he feels we are dirty, we think they are dirty...cool, but non of the above was over the top crying about nothing.... I respect that the Bryant catch was close enough that whatever was called on the field was going to stand up in replay, so how you view that is more or less going to be split by your loyalties... I know the Shazier hit was firmly in the grayest of areas in the rulebook, and that we were upset several times when heath didn't get calls when hit like that the past two seasons.

But this loss was on the Bengals... and while they made plays at the end that were amazing like the strip and the 3rd and 4th down conversions that gave them the chance to comeback, the Steelers didn't really win that game quite as much as the Bengals gave it away. In many ways it should never have been theirs to give anyhow... the Bengals had muffed the game badly going into the final quarter, and the Steelers failed to put them away... all of those wasted quarters must be on them, and when they did finally get the lead and the ball EVERYTHING they did from that point out was 100% on them.
 
WTF? Did you read the entire article?

He says the league needs to address (among other things) Munchak's hair-pulling and the Steelers escape scrutiny because the league holds the Rooney's in such high regard.
 
WTF? Did you read the entire article?

He says the league needs to address (among other things) Munchak's hair-pulling and the Steelers escape scrutiny because the league holds the Rooney's in such high regard.

He's a Bengal fan. Do you expect him not to have that perspective. His perspective is colored, just as ours is. If the tables were reversed, we'd feel the same way. My point is that he places responsibility squarely where it belongs - on the Bengals.
 
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while the tone is sensible for the most part...he is still just whining about bullshit

Coolie, exactly! He's a another whiner and I noticed that he always referred to our team as the Stealers. What's' that connotation mean; we stole the game? To me he's indicative of that fan base where they have more tattoos than teeth. ********!
 
Coolie, exactly! He's a another whiner and I noticed that he always referred to our team as the Stealers. What's' that connotation mean; we stole the game? To me he's indicative of that fan base where they have more tattoos than teeth. ********!


The place where that article originates from auto replaces "Steelers" with "Stealers" IIRC... because they are asshats
 
WTF? Did you read the entire article?

He says the league needs to address (among other things) Munchak's hair-pulling and the Steelers escape scrutiny because the league holds the Rooney's in such high regard.

Yep, he starts out sensible and then just turns into the same blithering idiot as the rest of them.
 
Yep, he starts out sensible and then just turns into the same blithering idiot as the rest of them.

Yes but had we lost we would be railing on some things too... like the missed false start, and burficts hit on Ben. Some would be all over the refs for the ticky tack PI call that set them up for the Hill Td and for some missed PI's on us.... but Tomlin and haley would be front and center on the firing line though, and Laundry would be getting fricasseed for that pick and lack of ability to do **** before it. The majority of us wouldn't be blaming the collapse on bengals sideline douchbags or league conspiracies. If the roles were reversed and that was Michell and Shazier who got the calls at the end, I don't think there would be people defending them. we would have 100 "why the **** cant tomlin control his players" threads, though
 
Some would be all over the refs for the ticky tack PI call
It wasn't ticky tack. It was larger than life. Full on deserving of a flag. If our guy had been mugged like that by a DB who never turned around I'd be yelling for a flag too. The receiver didn't have a reasonable opportunity to catch the ball. Now if the back had turned toward the ball, whole different story...
 
I love how every media members excludes the fact that many Bengals coaches were on the field for various parts of the game.
For that matter, Jeremy Hill came on the field to fight when he was not even involved. Flag? Nope.

Talk about hypocritical? The Bengals fans are butt-hurt..and they should be...their team lost their collective cool when they were given a chance to beat their neighborhood bully and blew it.
The only reason they had a chance to win to begin with is b/c Ben went down.

See ya' next year runners-up!
 
I think the Lula bye song was playing in the back ground as that guy penned his post. Starts out okay and goes into full on Bungle mode before shaping up at the end. He hit post and then he went back to sucking his thumb.
 
He's a Bengal fan. Do you expect him not to have that perspective. His perspective is colored, just as ours is. If the tables were reversed, we'd feel the same way. My point is that he places responsibility squarely where it belongs - on the Bengals.

He should have stopped at placing blame on the Bengals, which is obvious to anyone who isn't a Bengals fan.

But he can't help himself and calls the Steelers hypocrites, and then makes hypocritical and ridiculous statements. Can you imagine the NFL investigating Munchaks hair pulling?
 
It wasn't ticky tack. It was larger than life. Full on deserving of a flag. If our guy had been mugged like that by a DB who never turned around I'd be yelling for a flag too. The receiver didn't have a reasonable opportunity to catch the ball. Now if the back had turned toward the ball, whole different story...

I think we're doing the same thing they are. Of course we think toss calls were obvious There are two perspectives on every call. Had we lost, I guarantee we'd be railing against a laundry list of calls that we thought were unfair and pointing out inconsistencies. I can't fault the guy for that. He's pissed, just like I would be if we lost the way they did. I think all in all, he gives as balanced a perspective as I would expect from an opposing fan. Unlike most Bungle fans, he does acknowledge tha they brought much of it on themselves... and he's taking a lot of heat for it.
 
Coolie, exactly! He's a another whiner and I noticed that he always referred to our team as the Stealers. What's' that connotation mean; we stole the game? To me he's indicative of that fan base where they have more tattoos than teeth. ********!

**** him. Whine, whine, whine, the league loves the Rooney's, boo-hoo. We clearly know the league loves the Pats****. Birdshit gets three games for multiple violations but our QB gets four for...well, we don't know.
**** him. I ain't the Steelers fault, it ain't the refs fault (if anything the Bungles should have been penalized more), it's the fault of your thug players and ******* coach.
I rejoice in your misery.
 
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