Mike Adams

[SteelBuckeye]

Anybody here ever play on the OLine? If so, what are the technique flaws Adams shows here? I notice that at the snap, he's way higher coming out of his stance than any of the other linemen. Also, it looks like he heads to where he "thinks" Watt is going to go instead of just blocking him where he's at. Didn't play offensive line, so I wouldn't know, but shouldn't he "NOT" be leaning forward so much?

 

[SteelChip]

Ben was a better blocker than Adams on that play.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

imo hes high,, hes not sitting down ,,,, and two his footwork... I don't know what or why exactly,, but he looks as if he commits to JJ going out side,, and when the change of direction happens,, hes not in a position to go with him..+


The really stupid thing here is this: If you know its a reverse to the other side,, why would you sell out to stop watt from going to your outside? ,,, instead he should have sealed off the inside to keep him from pursuit.

 

[wig]

Ask Dre Archer to play LT. Hell, he doesn't do anything else. I still cannot believe we wasted a 3rd on this guy. I'd love to know who pulled the trigger on that one and the Landry Jones pick. ******* priceless.

Um, apparently you haven't been keeping up. Landry Jones is just one of hundreds of QBs who can easily score 30+ points a game in today's NFL. He's a solid gold bona-fide Asset baby!

 

[steelerscotty]

Anybody here ever play on the OLine? If so, what are the technique flaws Adams shows here? I notice that at the snap, he's way higher coming out of his stance than any of the other linemen. Also, it looks like he heads to where he "thinks" Watt is going to go instead of just blocking him where he's at. Didn't play offensive line, so I wouldn't know, but shouldn't he "NOT" be leaning forward so much?

It looks like, to me, that Adams doesnt know Bell is there to help or he thinks Bell is going to chip Watt Inside rather than outside. Looks like he cheats outside and Bell goes outside too. Could be just another case of poor communication.

 

[Nasty95Resilient86]

As much as Adams sucks, it is a verifiable fact that he did not give up any sacks. So, where is the train wreck you speak of? As far as Adams at LT, I agree ... NO!

I was comparing him to a train wreck on how bad he was getting beat when he was one on one. Just because he didn't give up sacks doesn't mean he was good. The Steelers were running all of their plays away from his side due to the fact that they knew he struggled so bad blocking. The video above is exactly what I was talking about. That was the train wreck I was talking about.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

I was comparing him to a train wreck on how bad he was getting beat when he was one on one. Just because he didn't give up sacks doesn't mean he was good. The Steelers were running all of their plays away from his side due to the fact that they knew he struggled so bad blocking. The video above is exactly what I was talking about. That was the train wreck I was talking about.

Oh, well then. I thought you were talking about the offense as a whole was a train wreck once Adams was inserted, not just his side. Of course Adams should not be left alone to block one on one. That said, I hope they have some type of plan to have Spaeth help him out. Heath's blocking this year is definitely not what it once was.

Also, that was one play. Train wreck might be a little harsh. I'd say he did a barely serviceable job overall.

 

[Vader]

The problem with Adams is that he needs help. He needs a TE to help block or a RB to chip. Or he needs the offense to run plays quickly and away from his side so he doesn't have to block long. The fact that the Steelers do those things tell me they know he sucks and are just blowing smoke up people's *** when they say how well he did. You could take any OL off the practice squad and get the same production.

 

[Drink IRON City]

The constant here is the draft department. Why the consistent bad ******* high draft picks. Why do we have a 2nd round pick,l that nearly any practice squad player will equal or out perform? On top of all this, it isn't just one or two, it's nearly 1/2 or better of our draft picks, being very poor at their respective positions. Adams just isn't meriting his high pick. Does anyone here think Cowher would have drafted Mike Adams? What about Chuck Noll, would have he? Doubtful


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[Vader]

The constant here is the draft department. Why the consistent bad ******* high draft picks. Why do we have a 2nd round pick,l that nearly any practice squad player will equal or out perform? On top of all this, it isn't just one or two, it's nearly 1/2 or better of our draft picks, being very poor at their respective positions. Adams just isn't meriting his high pick. Does anyone here think Cowher would have drafted Mike Adams? What about Chuck Knoll, would have he? Doubtful


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Who is Chuck Knoll?

 

[Punxsutawney]

Yep, Watt beat Adams like a rag doll. Faked outside, came inside and left Adams off balance and chasing him. Nice swim move by Watt. You can also see Bell there to help Adams.

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We all know that Adams sucks.

What most got my attention on that play is how quickly Watt closed on Brown after disengaging Adams.

I tend to think Watt is juicing. His strength/speed combo just seems a bit "too unnatural" for my liking.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

The constant here is the draft department. Why the consistent bad ******* high draft picks. Why do we have a 2nd round pick,l that nearly any practice squad player will equal or out perform? On top of all this, it isn't just one or two, it's nearly 1/2 or better of our draft picks, being very poor at their respective positions. Adams just isn't meriting his high pick. Does anyone here think Cowher would have drafted Mike Adams? What about Chuck Knoll, would have he? Doubtful


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Jamain Stephens says yes, Cowher would have drafted Adams. Not saying Adams was a good pick, but I still don't get the canonization of Bill Cowher. Cowher was a good coach; an excellent motivator and a good but not infallible judge of talent. Yes, he was better at talent evaluation than Tomlin appears to be, but he wasn't infallible.

 

[Wingman]

Adams had a false start on our 4 yard line (half the distance) just 2 plays before DHBs catch bailed us out.

I sit corrected on that. My point is that Watt makes everyone he lines up against look bad he is that good. He also beat DeCastro like a drum and sacked Ben after doing so. I am not trying to say that DeCastro is not good or Adams is Great just that a guy that maybe another defensive player of the year is going to make a lot of guys look bad. Yeah, I watch the game but don't have it DVR and the signal is not as good as I would like it to be. On that play (once beaten) doing what he did was the best he could do. He did not grab and try and ride the guy out of the play or commit the hold that was going to kill the chances of a touchdown.

I thought he did a decent job. I don't think any one would get the players we have playing tackle now confused with Wayne Gandy and Marvel Smith who I thought were pretty good.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

The constant here is the draft department. Why the consistent bad ******* high draft picks. Why do we have a 2nd round pick,l that nearly any practice squad player will equal or out perform? On top of all this, it isn't just one or two, it's nearly 1/2 or better of our draft picks, being very poor at their respective positions. Adams just isn't meriting his high pick. Does anyone here think Cowher would have drafted Mike Adams? What about Chuck Knoll, would have he? Doubtful


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Jamain Stephens says yes, Cowher would have drafted Adams. Not saying Adams was a good pick, but I still don't get the canonization of Bill Cowher. Cowher was a good coach; an excellent motivator and a good but not infallible judge of talent. Yes, he was better at talent evaluation than Tomlin appears to be, but he wasn't infallible.

 

[keslerclan]

The problem with Adams is that he needs help. He needs a TE to help block or a RB to chip. Or he needs the offense to run plays quickly and away from his side so he doesn't have to block long. The fact that the Steelers do those things tell me they know he sucks and are just blowing smoke up people's *** when they say how well he did. You could take any OL off the practice squad and get the same production.

You COULD...if he was still there and hadn't been waived and re-signed with the Jets! Now we have Pouncey as our back-up T??? I hope Villanueva pans out, we might need him sooner than later!

 

[Drink IRON City]

Who is Chuck Knoll?

Sorry as I was thinking about a knife or Kcanoe or Knowledge or some other Kbullshit like Kcrap.



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[Drink IRON City]

Jamain Stephens says yes, Cowher would have drafted Adams. Not saying Adams was a good pick, but I still don't get the canonization of Bill Cowher. Cowher was a good coach; an excellent motivator and a good but not infallible judge of talent. Yes, he was better at talent evaluation than Tomlin appears to be, but he wasn't infallible.

I hear what you are saying. All coaches are vulnerable to a bad draft pick. JUST some have that characteristics less then others. My point being Bill & Chuck had it less than our current staff.


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[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Maybe we can blame Germaine Stephens on Donahoe, then we can keep Bill Pristene.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

Maybe we can blame Germaine Stephens on Donahoe, then we can keep Bill Pristene.

Bill's early drafts were excellent, but starting with that Stephens/Conley draft, he had a period of about 3-4 years where at least one of the top two picks stunk. Maybe it was the Donahoe feud factor that brought us such inspired talent as Will Blackwell (2nd round '97, a draft where Bill actually drafted a player named .... Mike Adams (WR - 7th)), Jeremy Staat (2nd round - '98), Troy Edwards AND Scott Shields (1st & 2nd rounds '99). But, then, that wouldn't account for picks such as Alonzo Jackson (2nd - 2003) or Ricardo Colclough (2nd - 2004).

All of that to say that evaluating talent for the draft is an inexact science. But, I sure wish the Steelers since the departure of KNOLL had a better record with their first and second round picks.

 

[Vader]

All coaches have bad/ horrible draft picks. Few of them allow a draft pick to lie to their face and then beg to drafted and then actually get drafted by them. Cowher knew he ****** up with Stephens. He cut his *** in camp after just 2 years. Like I said, all coaches makes horrible picks at times. But I don't remember 8 years worth of picks under Cowher where almost nobody is worth their draft spot.

 

[Nasty95Resilient86]

Oh, well then. I thought you were talking about the offense as a whole was a train wreck once Adams was inserted, not just his side. Of course Adams should not be left alone to block one on one. That said, I hope they have some type of plan to have Spaeth help him out. Heath's blocking this year is definitely not what it once was.

Also, that was one play. Train wreck might be a little harsh. I'd say he did a barely serviceable job overall.

I think they had help with Adams about 70% of the time they dropped back to pass. Its almost like a dead give away that they are passing. Adams is a decent run blocker and then he is usually left one on one with the defender. That one play was just a small taste of what happened when he was left to defend by himself on a pass play. Just go back and watch the game and watch him specifically, you will see what I mean.

Let me say that I am not just getting on here to bash him. I pull for him to do well due to the fact I want the Steelers to do well. But facts are facts. When he plays it will limit how many plays the Steelers can run to his side due to his terrible play. Any smart Defensive Coordinator will see this and plan accordingly. It will keep the Steelers offense one dimensional while dropping back to pass. Screens left, Slants left......etc. We better hope the Steelers can run it down their throat and then they might be able to run some play action his way. But to me that will be their only shot of passing well to the right side.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

Funny thing about Adams is that he has the natural talent to be a good RT. What he lacks is the "tools" and that is no one's fault but his own. Talent is God given; you have to work to put the tools in your belt. I also wonder how much of it is just being mentally lazy. Like the play above where he just "guessed" that Watt was going outside, which led to him being out of position and off balance so that Watt was easily able to swim over him to get to the inside. But, after 2 1/2 seasons in the NFL, I just don't think the kid will ever put it all together in a Steelers uniform. I'd love to be wrong.