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Mason Rudolph

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He had a very poor first half and one terrible interception but he seemed to settle down and played a better second half. There wasn’t a lot for him to throw to in the first half but the offense seemed to gain momentum in the second half. I think he can use that experience and momentum for his second start. Trying to look at what little positive we have to talk about.


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Too many horizontal play calls in the first half. You watch rookie QBs all over the league playing with a full playbook and the Steelers treat their backups with kid gloves every time.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Too many horizontal play calls in the first half. You watch rookie QBs all over the league playing with a full playbook and the Steelers treat their backups with kid gloves every time.
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While this is true, the other rookie and 2nd year QB's are showing more ability too.

If we let Rudolph play that way, he's turning the ball over. Right now, he's not even Neil O'Donnell, a type you can play conservative with and win.
 
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While this is true, the other rookie and 2nd year QB's are showing more ability too.

If we let Rudolph play that way, he's turning the ball over. Right now, he's not even Neil O'Donnell, a type you can play conservative with and win.
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I'd rather give him a chance to turn the ball over than throw a sideways pass that is complete for two yards.
 
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While this is true, the other rookie and 2nd year QB's are showing more ability too.

If we let Rudolph play that way, he's turning the ball over. Right now, he's not even Neil O'Donnell, a type you can play conservative with and win.
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At 0-3 open up the entire playbook. What do we have to lose?
 
He was put in a bad situation and had some solid plays. And some not so good plays. Still too early to see what direction his pendulum is leaning. I need to see his accuracy improve. And not force the ball when there is nothing there.

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Coach said:
While this is true, the other rookie and 2nd year QB's are showing more ability too.

If we let Rudolph play that way, he's turning the ball over. Right now, he's not even Neil O'Donnell, a type you can play conservative with and win.
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Coach, just curious as to why you have such a problem with Rudolph. Does he owe you money or something
 
When they started letting him throw down field we started to have success. I think the game plan was to dink, dunk, run and play defense.


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HCMT and his stellar coaching staff haven’t figured to utilize Rudolph’s strengths. What was that thingy about coaches job is to put players in a position to succeed?
 
I have not been crazy about the Steeler offense for a few years...there is little playaction, little misdirection, little creativity overall. I kinda wondered if it was Ben to some degree...older QB, maybe set in his ways a bit, whatever...but after watching today (I know it's just 1 game) it is the staff. Maybe they have no idea how to do any of those things.

I have tried hard to stay off of the clean house bandwagon, but damn, this coaching staff is lacking.
 
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I have not been crazy about the Steeler offense for a few years...there is little playaction, little misdirection, little creativity overall. I kinda wondered if it was Ben to some degree...older QB, maybe set in his ways a bit, whatever...but after watching today (I know it's just 1 game) it is the staff. Maybe they have no idea how to do any of those things.

I have tried hard to stay off of the clean house bandwagon, but damn, this coaching staff is lacking.
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No play action shotgun every damn play. Terrible o game plan for young qb on the road.
 
The only thing I will give Mason he was under pressure for most of the game. The receivers do not get ,this is a new QB and need to come back to the ball when he is running for his life. Play calling did not help him
 
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The only thing I will give Mason he was under pressure for most of the game. The receivers do not get ,this is a new QB and need to come back to the ball when he is running for his life. Play calling did not help him
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The kid was running for his life the whole afternoon. First game. Little or no support. The numbskull and his 'staff' just threw him to the wolves.

Contrast that with Ben's first game. A manly OL. A HoF bulldozer with a manly fullback. Decent receivers. A real HC. A real OC. A very good defense.

If the roles were reversed would the outcomes have been different?
 
****** pass protection and little separation. Nice recipe for a rook, or any QB for that matter.
 
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The kid was running for his life the whole afternoon. First game. Little or no support. The numbskull and his 'staff' just threw him to the wolves.

Contrast that with Ben's first game. A manly OL. A HoF bulldozer with a manly fullback. Decent receivers. A real HC. A real OC. A very good defense.

If the roles were reversed would the outcomes have been different?
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There is no excuse for losing a game when the other team gives you the ball 5 times. Even if you gave it back 2. I don't care who is playing QB. You can't lose that game.
 
QBs have to make too tough throws under pressure, yeah first start, but he's not a rookie. He had McDonald open early down the seam, he had McDonald open downfield and totally over threw him causing him to take a big hit and get hurt. He missed Johnson on two 3rd down plays.


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Watched the Giants game today. Jones was running for his life, playing with the worst WR corps in the NFL, without an injured Barkely and he sidestepped the rush to the tune of 336 yards passong and 4 TDs and a win on the road. He looks like a much much better prospect and athlete than Mason. Saw some of the Panthers game and Allen has much better mobility, a better arm and better pocket presence than Mason and he was undrafted. He threw 4 TD passes today for a team that had ZERO coming onto the game.

I know its early but Mason looked like a poor man's Landry Jones and frankly didnt show any great traits.
 
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QBs have to make too tough throws under pressure, yeah first start, but he's not a rookie. He had McDonald open early down the seam, he had McDonald open downfield and totally over threw him causing him to take a big hit and get hurt. He missed Johnson on two 3rd down plays.
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Who's to say Johnson makes the play. He alligator armed two balls today.
 
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QBs have to make too tough throws under pressure, yeah first start, but he's not a rookie. He had McDonald open early down the seam, he had McDonald open downfield and totally over threw him causing him to take a big hit and get hurt. He missed Johnson on two 3rd down plays.
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I agree. You can't just replace Ben. Rudolph may end up being a great QB. But he isn't now. He does have some accuracy issues. I talked about them in another thread. I like his attitude and grit but he isn't Ben. Not yet.
 
So now it's on Rudolph. This team is poorly coached. I'm not sure you can assess any player's potential on this **** show. You hear about coaches putting their players in a position to succeed, and we are the exact opposite.
 
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So now it's on Rudolph. This team is poorly coached. I'm not sure you can assess any player's potential on this **** show. You hear about coaches putting their players in a position to succeed, and we are the exact opposite.
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If you can't see that he's nowhere near Ben's level, you are blind. Is he the only reason? No. He was A reason.

But I agree, they should not have coached Conner to fumble the game away. That was a bad idea on Tomlin's part. I hope he learns from this coaching blunder. He also should not have coached Rudolph to throw that horrific ill advised INT after halftime. That was also a poor coaching decision.
 
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What I don;t understand is we used none of the play action that we used against Seattle and made Randolph play out of the shotgun all day which limits the play calling. Horrible coaching by Tomlin and his fellow clowns/
 
diver said:
I have not been crazy about the Steeler offense for a few years...there is little playaction, little misdirection, little creativity overall. I kinda wondered if it was Ben to some degree...older QB, maybe set in his ways a bit, whatever...but after watching today (I know it's just 1 game) it is the staff. Maybe they have no idea how to do any of those things.

I have tried hard to stay off of the clean house bandwagon, but damn, this coaching staff is lacking.
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I'm curious what you didn't like about our offense the past few years? We were top 5 in yardage and top 5 and top 10 in scoring the past 2 seasons. Maybe our older, set in his ways QB could have thrown for 6000 yards last season and you would have been happy.

If we had any kind of coaching staff that could have put even a half *** defense on the field we could have easily had a couple of more Lombardis in the showcase. But it looks like that ship has sailed. Especially if Tomlin is back next year.
 
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