Mason Rudolph doing just fine through all of this,

[Paul G]

Yeah he was a real johnny unitas type, lemme tell ya . . .

In surprise, Oklahoma State's Mason Rudolph edges Baker Mayfield for Johnny Unitas Award


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looks like the same throwing motion ....

Mason was voted the top senior QB ....4904 yards ...37tds....9 Ints..... He can sling it.........

winner of the JOHNNY UNITAS Golden Arm Award


Mason vs. Mayfield shootout
https://youtu.be/vR9r3xwl1vo

 

[Steelworth]

A lot of you guys are forgetting how good Mason was prior to his concussion, and how poised in the pocket he was:

4gms 3strts 63comp 94att 67.02comp% 646yds 7TD 2INT 102.5Rating

Forget it, Cope. What have you done for me lately?

 

[Steelworth]

Yep, until teams got the game tape on his noodle arm and started sitting on those underneath routes.

I mean, even in those 4 games he was averaging 6.8 yards per attempt. That is really really poor.

Even though he was made to throw a lot of short ones, the guy does not have a noodle arm. JFC people, I don't know how much you can watch with your own eyes to come to that conclusion yourselves. Do you realize he was one of the most efficient long passers in modern college football history?

 

[scstillerfan]

A lot of you guys are forgetting how good Mason was prior to his concussion, and how poised in the pocket he was:

4gms 3strts 63comp 94att 67.02comp% 646yds 7TD 2INT 102.5Rating

Dupree has 4 years to develop and everyone is fine with that. The guy trying to develop at the hardest position must be great the first year he starts. No exceptions!!

 

[Coryea]

Even though he was made to throw a lot of short ones, the guy does not have a noodle arm. JFC people, I don't know how much you can watch with your own eyes to come to that conclusion yourselves. Do you realize he was one of the most efficient long passers in modern college football history?

He does not have a strong arm. That was a knock on him coming out of college. His passes do not have the zip on it that alot of the top QB's have.

He can throw it long, but he has to put more air under it.

https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018mrudolph.php

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-scouting-report-for-pittsburgh-steelers-pick

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mason-rudolph?id=32195255-4432-1216-a9be-28502c0847e4

https://www.bigblueview.com/2018/3/...udolph-scouting-report-film-study-news-rumors

 

[Stryker]

Rudolph is a winning QB in his first year of on field experience with a positive TD to INT ratio. You guys have no idea how rare that is for new QBs. He also progressed from year one to year 2. Enough to make our backup Dobbs, trade bait. You think he's hit his peak? He's done learning and progressing? Because I don't. If he doesn't 'pass the eye test' you need to review more film.

There's a reason why the Steelers are high on Rudolph, and it's the same reason why I'm high on him too.

The thing I like the most about Rudolph, is he hates to lose. That is a big motivator to get better.

 

[wig]

The thing I like the most about Rudolph, is he hates to lose. That is a big motivator

What? He hates Jews?

Ooh... I may have misread that...

 

[Steelin]

Rudolph is a winning QB in his first year of on field experience with a positive TD to INT ratio. You guys have no idea how rare that is for new QBs. He also progressed from year one to year 2. Enough to make our backup Dobbs, trade bait. You think he's hit his peak? He's done learning and progressing? Because I don't. If he doesn't 'pass the eye test' you need to review more film.

There's a reason why the Steelers are high on Rudolph, and it's the same reason why I'm high on him too.

The thing I like the most about Rudolph, is he hates to lose. That is a big motivator to get better.

I agree. You watch his college film and he's in it to win it.

Steelers fans are spoiled due to Ben's phenomenal career in my opinion. He wasn't ready last year. The injury to Ben wasn't very timely for us, at all. Injuries usually aren't though. So he gets thrown in there with our limited WR lineup, Fletch's dynamic scheme and aging protection issues and what do you know we didn't win the SB. Oh noes, the sky is falling!!!

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Rudolph is a winning QB in his first year of on field experience with a positive TD to INT ratio. You guys have no idea how rare that is for new QBs. He also progressed from year one to year 2. Enough to make our backup Dobbs, trade bait. You think he's hit his peak? He's done learning and progressing? Because I don't. If he doesn't 'pass the eye test' you need to review more film.

There's a reason why the Steelers are high on Rudolph, and it's the same reason why I'm high on him too.

The thing I like the most about Rudolph, is he hates to lose. That is a big motivator to get better.

He hates to lose? That's special?

 

[Steelin]

He hates to lose? That's special?

It is when you can see they'll, for example, look through the huge defender to get that pass off knowing full well they are about to get hammered. I saw a few of those last year and his mettle was pretty strong.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

It is when you can see they'll, for example, look through the huge defender to get that pass off knowing full well they are about to get hammered. I saw a few of those last year and his mettle was pretty strong.

I hear ya.

 

[Stryker]

He hates to lose? That's special?

Yes. It is to me. No one likes to lose, but QBs like Rivers, or Dalton, or Cutler seemed fine with it. Rudolph is like Ben. They put losing on themselves, and it's a personal burden to them if they can't find a way to win.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Yes. It is to me. No one likes to lose, but QBs like Rivers, or Dalton, or Cutler seemed fine with it. Rudolph is like Ben. They put losing on themselves, and it's a personal burden to them if they can't find a way to win.

Meh. I don't think you know anything about how those players feel about losing. I'm pretty sure you don't make it to the NFL without a very competitive personality. Like I tell my kids, nobody cares how hard you try or how bad people think you feel when you fail.

 

[Stryker]

Meh. I don't think you know anything about how those players feel about losing. I'm pretty sure you don't make it to the NFL without a very competitive personality. Like I tell my kids, nobody cares how hard you try or how bad people think you feel when you fail.

It's the little things that are very easy to pick up from any post loss interview. Do they put all of the blame on themselves (even when we as fans know the loss wasn't the QB that week)? Or do they blame others: Refs, field conditions, other players for not making plays, the other side of the football, coaching? Those are the QBs I don't want.

We have 2 from column A in the 1/2 spots at QB.

 

[slashsteel]

Meh. I don't think you know anything about how those players feel about losing. I'm pretty sure you don't make it to the NFL without a very competitive personality. Like I tell my kids, nobody cares how hard you try or how bad people think you feel when you fail.

A lot of those players may be competitive but it is money driven a decent amount of times. Some players just simply are ultra competitive and want to win more than the next guy. Which ones that apply to I am sure are debatable. But those players do exist..

 

[SteelerFan448]

Dupree has 4 years to develop and everyone is fine with that. The guy trying to develop at the hardest position must be great the first year he starts. No exceptions!!

Dupree's development was completely mismanaged. The first move was they changed what side of the defense he played and all of a sudden he went from being invisible every week to making a play here and there. Then they actually let him rush the passer and he had a career year. But he's always had the outstanding athletic ability to be a good player.

I was pretty high on Rudolph coming out of college and then I watched him in person. He doesn't do anything particularly well. The deep ball that got him through college is so so now. He isn't a quick decision maker. He has a decent arm, but not great. There were very few "NFL throws" into tight windows like you see from some other young QBs. I think he'll get better, but is he a guy that is going to put the Steelers into contention on a yearly basis? I don't see that from him.

 

[Coryea]

Dupree's development was completely mismanaged. The first move was they changed what side of the defense he played and all of a sudden he went from being invisible every week to making a play here and there. Then they actually let him rush the passer and he had a career year. But he's always had the outstanding athletic ability to be a good player.

I was pretty high on Rudolph coming out of college and then I watched him in person. He doesn't do anything particularly well. The deep ball that got him through college is so so now. He isn't a quick decision maker. He has a decent arm, but not great. There were very few "NFL throws" into tight windows like you see from some other young QBs. I think he'll get better, but is he a guy that is going to put the Steelers into contention on a yearly basis? I don't see that from him.

Dupree started to show up when Watt really got going his second season.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Dupree started to show up when Watt really got going his second season.

That’s when they switched both guys to the side they were more comfortable in. They were both not in the ideal position the year before.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

That must have been uncle Jarvis' problem too

 

[SteelBuckeye]

I get the idea of being a "quick decision maker". It's important. However, just as important is being a "correct decision maker". I mean, it does you (and your team) no good if you are a quick decision maker who throws a **** ton of INTs, or makes the decision to tuck and run when a pass could net a TD. I think for most of these young guys it takes time and experience to develop both aspects (quick and correct). We'll see what Rudolph learned last year at some point in time. Not too soon though, I hope.

 

[Drink IRON City]

That’s when they switched both guys to the side they were more comfortable in. They were both not in the ideal position the year before.

I also NOTICED. How much better the LBing Corp's were once PEEZy was gone............... Big difference in coaching






Salute the nation

 

[xjx]

Is Peezy coaching anywhere these a days?

 

[Steelmann]

Dupree has 4 years to develop and everyone is fine with that. The guy trying to develop at the hardest position must be great the first year he starts. No exceptions!!

I had to chuckle a bit at your quote of everyone being fine with giving Dupree 4 years to develop. I found the opposite to be true. Most people were ready to turf him after the second and third year. ****,even after his first. Patience isn’t exactly the strongest point of today’s Steeler fans.

 

[stillerfaninfl]

Dupree started to show up when it was his contract year.

 

[slashsteel]

Dupree started to show up when it was his contract year.

He progressed yearly. I never have gotten the impression that he wasn't a hard worker so I don't see a drop-off in effort any time soon.