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Le’Veon Bell’s Season is Over. Thanks for Cap Space!

Atlsteelers said:
Anyone know where this puts us as far as the cap now?
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Honestly, I'm not entirely sure, as I have heard various numbers, anywhere from $21-26M, after some salaries are off the books, as well(Shazier, Mitchell, etc). May be too early to determine that. I'd assume there are a lot more educated posters here that know.
 
I think its safe to say Conner won the " No Bell " prize. Okay I heard that elsewhere, but I'm guessing some here have not.
 
I would be willing to bring Bell back for the veteran minimum.


Nah, nevermind.
 
fogdoctor said:
I would be willing to bring Bell back for the veteran minimum.


Nah, nevermind.
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I'll take him as a tackling dummy for camp. I sincerely hope his value is less than what the Steelers offered, and he ends on a bad team or rival team. The guy is a cancer.
 
The Steelers are 11-4 without Bell in the lineup over the last three seasons. A 15 game sample.
 
Drink IRON City said:
well I'm sure the LEGAL team is prepping for next year's TAG option. I'm glad to be rid of the distraction he has brought and the drama upon himself. AS OF NOW...... We are riding with whom we have and NO looking back.

Who Ride..............

WE RIDE...!!!!!!!





Salute the nation
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Good bye, you showed the world....how your economic skill sure lack as you left 14million sit, had no salary for a year and lost credit on your benefits not playing a year. You showed us Bell.
 
black and gold apex said:
Good bye, you showed the world....how your economic skill sure lack as you left 14million sit, had no salary for a year and lost credit on your benefits not playing a year. You showed us Bell.
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I agree 100%! What did he show the world, the NFL world, with this episode of not playing and collecting 14.5M FREAKIN' dollars? In the grand scheme, what is he accomplishing? Sure, he is going to get a large contract from another team in 2019, but that is 14.5M FREAKIN' dollars he will never recoup and he showed an immature and questionable side to his character. And, actually he is not a good gambler.
 
The divorce is finally final.
 
Nevermind. :)
 
Anyone signing Bell will likely put a poison pill in contract, like very high signing bonus, so Steelers won't match. Steelers just using tag in case Bell gets similar offers to what they already offered.
 
LastRide said:
Hate to bump this thread but, Le'Veon Bell and the Steelers came close to a deal before everything fell apart once and for all. The Steelers also notified Bell they plan on using the transition tag on him in 2019. Maybe to set up a trade ?.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/...ct-holdout-nfl-news/cfbxpjxb5bwt1og6wnm88r6ve
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I'm not sure how a transition tag sets up a trade? I can't see how any team coming to an agreement with Bell under the transition tag would want to negotiate a trade. They don't have to give up any compensation, and the Steelers only option once Bell signs a tender is to match the offer. As I understand it, should the Steelers match and then trade, the Steelers are stuck with any signing bonus.

What I found interesting in the article was that Bell's terms for signing the franchise tender, as per the article, was the Steelers agree not to use the transition or franchise tenders next year. I can understand him not wanting the Steelers to use the franchise tender, as the compensation becomes a barrier to him coming to an agreement with another team, but given there is no compensation under the transition tag, I can't see how the transition tag would reduce his ability to negotiate with other teams. The only thing the transition tag does is give the Steelers matching rights. If the report is true, his request not to be subject to the transition tag seems to indicate that he does not want to be with the Steelers next year.
 
The transition tag does affect Bell's agent's ability to negotiate. Now the only deal Bell can get under the trans tag, will be between 2 teams. The Steelers, and the team making the offer. This will yield a much smaller value than an open negotiation between 32 teams. In open FA, that is where bidding wars happen and values skyrocket.

By trans tagging him, it ***** his payday. I'm all for the Steelers doing that. Also the trans tag will ensure Bell will not be a $17M player. The value should be closer to $12-$15, which is less or equal to what the Steelers were already willing to offer him, and he turned down.

He will be forced to signing a contract below the value of what he already turned down. I'd love for the Steelers to do this, just to spite his selfish ***.

And yes, I say selfish, because he had $27M guaranteed over 2 years if he signed on time. Instead, he ended up with only $12.2M from his first tag. That $27M will be more guaranteed money that he will see in a contract, and was more than the Steelers were offering ($22M range). Terrible business decision.
 
Cope, to me it's NOT just the money he has given up but the way he gave it up. He flat out lied to the team / organization, misled, many things on the sly. He wasn't honest and that is what failed the most.




Salute the nation
 
Cope said:
The transition tag does affect Bell's agent's ability to negotiate. Now the only deal Bell can get under the trans tag, will be between 2 teams. The Steelers, and the team making the offer. This will yield a much smaller value than an open negotiation between 32 teams. In open FA, that is where bidding wars happen and values skyrocket.

By trans tagging him, it ***** his payday. I'm all for the Steelers doing that. Also the trans tag will ensure Bell will not be a $17M player. The value should be closer to $12-$15, which is less or equal to what the Steelers were already willing to offer him, and he turned down.

He will be forced to signing a contract below the value of what he already turned down. I'd love for the Steelers to do this, just to spite his selfish ***.

And yes, I say selfish, because he had $27M guaranteed over 2 years if he signed on time. Instead, he ended up with only $12.2M from his first tag. That $27M will be more guaranteed money that he will see in a contract, and was more than the Steelers were offering ($22M range). Terrible business decision.
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copied from elsewhere, written by someone more cap-savvy than I:

On the Transition tag, Article 10, Section 8 states that the Rights of First Refusal on a transition tag or franchise tag cannot be traded. So, he has to sign with someone. Then, the Steelers could match. But, Article 9, Section 3(h) would kick it. It basically affirms that there is no consideration for Rights of First Refusal and IF a team matches the contract and retains the player, he cannot be traded to the team making the offer for one calendar year and cannot be traded to ANY team without approval of the player or NFLPA until after the signing period ends, which is July 22nd (IIRC). So, if you match, you tie yourself to his *** for another off season, fork over whatever bonus money is due, and then have to try to move him for a future draft pick. Just too much bullshit there.
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