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Leveon Bell

chipped ham said:
I don't think that's the case, but we've seen how the offense, the running game particularly, turns out when you have a Ben Tate, or whoever the **** that was, back in 2015.
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Yes because if they decide to let Bell walk or trade him we'll be picking up guys off the street.
 
nitsuj1225 said:
Yes because if they decide to let Bell walk or trade him we'll be picking up guys off the street.
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and that is the mindset currently going on.
let him retire. **** him. he can sit out. **** him.

anyone have Dante Brown's number on speed dial?
 
Should have drafted Joe Mixon when he was available. Mixon is as physical as Bell, slightly faster and has great hands.

I expect we will sign him, but I don't think we break bank on him...If he balks at what we offer walk him to the corner, and look in the draft. Theres some good legs comin out this year.
 
He has the best numbers in league history to this point in his career for a RB for total yardage. He is what makes this offense go. Could he have waited to say anything? Sure. I don't buy the distraction bullshit. In this day and age with social media someone says something stupid every week. Players could give a **** less what the media is reporting, or the fans are saying. I kind of like it if he's truly pissed off and out to show he's the best player in the game.

IF they give him the damn ball like they should and he's motivated we will beat them handily. Once the season is over he has to do what he has to do to get what he thinks he deserves. They have the leverage with the Franchise tag. They are entitled to use it. I'm telling you right now, that kid won't retire, but he will miss meaningful games if he feels low balled by the front office. They can guarantee him enough money up front to get it done, it all comes down to if they feel like they should. He's 25 years old, somebody will pay him, even if he sits a year. It ended up working for Sean Gilbert, and he wasn't Leveon Bell. Time will tell.
 
blitzburghv5 said:
Should have drafted Joe Mixon when he was available. Mixon is as physical as Bell, slightly faster and has great hands.

I expect we will sign him, but I don't think we break bank on him...If he balks at what we offer walk him to the corner, and look in the draft. Theres some good legs comin out this year.
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That sounds great, but he isn't in his league.
 
Superman said:
and that is the mindset currently going on.
let him retire. **** him. he can sit out. **** him.

anyone have Dante Brown's number on speed dial?
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Fans get too emotionally attached like it's their money, or their body taking a beating. He's the best all around back this franchise has ever had. Sure, at age 25 let's get rid of him. He can handle it better in the media, but there is no player out there you plug in to replace a once in a life time talent for your franchise. If he leaves it is what it is, but if you want Ben here you have to make him know it's all in, right now.
 
Coach said:
Barkley is special. RB's with that type of talent seldom bust.

Bell, easily the best RB to wear black and gold? Um, no.

Consider the following.

Bell's yards per catch and yards per rush is below average with out OL, an excellent blocking FB, all star receivers, ( Two of which also block well ), and Ben at QB. Running the ball here is easier than other teams, and I stated the reasons why. This season Bell has proved to be durable and reliable but hardly explosive.

Why would this trade work for us?

1 ) Bell has a lot of miles on him and some injures. Backs don't last long. Barkely will likely be the better player by 2022
2 ) 10 million in cap savings. Enough to obtain another Haden like addition.
3 ) Bell has off the field issues. One more DUI and he's in trouble, plus he took shots at the Steelers on social media

Why would this make sense for Cleveland?



1 ) Bell plus the fist QB taken would give the fans hope, who has seen their Browns win just one of the past 32 games. A move like this will give the fans hope
2 ) Bell is from Ohio.
3 ) The Browns have a huge amount of cap space. Enough to pay Bell and add OL / WR in free agency.

PS: I did not want to draft Conner in round three, but I did want to increase his workload to see what he would look like with 10 carries a game.

PPS: Bell is not close to LT, or Peterson.
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Bell is the Best back in the league and has been for a few years, but you cannot compare him to LT or Peterson, But Barkley is comparable to Bell before ever playing a down in the NFL?
OK
Barkley may not have a career in the NFL
Most backs do not last, Some of the great ones do LT had an 11 year career. Peterson 9 or 10, The Bus?
Which Steeler back would outrush and outrecieve Bell if they were to play on this current team?
 
bigben said:
Bell is the Best back in the league and has been for a few years, but you cannot compare him to LT or Peterson, But Barkley is comparable to Bell before ever playing a down in the NFL?
OK
Barkley may not have a career in the NFL
Most backs do not last, Some of the great ones do LT had an 11 year career. Peterson 9 or 10, The Bus?
Which Steeler back would outrush and outrecieve Bell if they were to play on this current team?
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Which Steelers would out rush and out receive Bell? Can we compare their salaries and the numbers they put up over the years to what Bell has and wants in his future contract?
 
Average yds from scrimmage per game
Career
Peterson 107
Tomlinson 108
Bell 128

Le'Veon Bell currently has the highest career yards from scrimmage per game average in NFL history (minimum 40 games)

The numbers don't lie
Pay him

Nuff said
 
Coach said:
Barkley is special. RB's with that type of talent seldom bust.

Bell, easily the best RB to wear black and gold? Um, no.

Consider the following.

Bell's yards per catch and yards per rush is below average with out OL, an excellent blocking FB, all star receivers, ( Two of which also block well ), and Ben at QB. Running the ball here is easier than other teams, and I stated the reasons why. This season Bell has proved to be durable and reliable but hardly explosive.

Why would this trade work for us?

1 ) Bell has a lot of miles on him and some injures. Backs don't last long. Barkely will likely be the better player by 2022
2 ) 10 million in cap savings. Enough to obtain another Haden like addition.
3 ) Bell has off the field issues. One more DUI and he's in trouble, plus he took shots at the Steelers on social media

Why would this make sense for Cleveland?

1 ) Bell plus the fist QB taken would give the fans hope, who has seen their Browns win just one of the past 32 games. A move like this will give the fans hope
2 ) Bell is from Ohio.
3 ) The Browns have a huge amount of cap space. Enough to pay Bell and add OL / WR in free agency.

PS: I did not want to draft Conner in round three, but I did want to increase his workload to see what he would look like with 10 carries a game.

PPS: Bell is not close to LT, or Peterson.[/QUOTE


You are bat **** ******* crazy. Some of you guys are completely out of your minds. Bell's numbers are better than LT's at this same point, and Peterson can't catch the ball out of the backfield like either of them. Unbelievable. Here are the numbers, all at age 25 at similar points. Numbers don't lie, and neither of those guys had AB to take receptions away on their teams, they were the offense for the most part.

Peterson through his first 61 games, total yards rushing and receiving: 6,952

Tomlinson through his first 63 games, total yards rushing and receiving: 7,921

Bell through his first 62 games, total yards rushing and receiving: 7,996

This misnomer that he isn't an all time talent is false, and even though he's just starting, the Steelers have never had a better all around RB with his potential. That isn't a knock on Franco, or Bettis. Me giving one player credit doesn't mean I have to make up reasons to knock another. Again, the media talk I can do without, but this team isn't winning a title this year or soon without that kid on the field. Hopefully he's outgrown weed until he's done, because that's a legitimate subject when they get to the table and rightfully so.
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Give him 17M. Then when one of his OL blockers is up for a new contract let them walk and let Bell know it's because of his deal.
 
I shall call him LeVeon O'Donnell from here on out....jackass move to even address contract in the playoffs (see Neil O'Donnell). The only way I shall ever put him back as Bell (a killer B) is with us hoisting #7 this year. Until then he is LO and stripped of all the love shown to our killer Bs.
 
LOL, I'm sure he's concerned with what all you super fans think of him. Please.
 
Trade is a ridiculous arguement. No one is giving them a first round top 10 pick for Bell. Not happening. Browns are village idiots but not that bad.
 
SteelerSask said:
Trade is a ridiculous arguement. No one is giving them a first round top 10 pick for Bell. Not happening. Browns are village idiots but not that bad.
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I love the fact that all the ones who think he isnt worth it are the first ones to say trade him for a top ten pick..
 
chipped ham said:
Well, that's exactly what we did with Stevan Ridley, whom you referenced in your post.
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Um ok? How is picking up a backup RB with 2 games left bc of injury relevant to Bell's situation?

My point was if they decide to trade or let Bell walk, there will be some planning as to who his replacement will be either via another trade, the draft or free agency. They're not just going to dump Bell and call up Ben Tate which is what some of you guys apparently think. Comparing mid season injury pickups is completely different than an entire off-season to address a position.
 
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Any cap guys out there that can comment on how that would leave the Steelers cap wise if Bell is signed to what he's asking for vs tagging him vs letting him walk? Might put things into perspective.
 
Thing is the Steelers have very little cap room next season but almost everyone of significance signed. Then in 2019 they are significantly under ( without a franchise qb albeit). Point is they could restructure a few guys next year to get Bell and then easily afford him. It will be tough negotiations though. No doubt. 4 years? I would prefer 3 but that is probably a non starter. Hes very banged up. Id say if Ben plays next year you need him and you want him all season and committed.
 
This is a very tough player / management decision to be made, glad I'm not the one to have to make it. One thing to Remeber is the CAP financial hell that this could put us in. It wasn't that long ago we went through that and many here choose not to Remeber but I guarantee you our FO does. If a deal can be reached that secures the RB and keeps the Team in reasonable financial stability, then go for IT. Bell is a great talent but Remeber he is but a piss test from a vacation and has had major leg issues, couple that with the natural wear out due to number of touches (running till his wheels fall off), his value needs to be reflective in years / guarantee of said contract. If the RIGHT trade comes along, take it as he has shown melcontent in the past. This current speak out was a little baited and the context wasn't full shown. He does talk about not worrying about his contract and only concerned with winning the super bowl. With all this being said, I hope both him and the team stays focused on what is at hand. I know they will and I saw a video clip interview of coach Tomlin saying near so, love Tomlin's attitude and that has to be infectious to the team, our beloved PITTSBURGH STEELERS.




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The salary cap is again getting a significant bump and will for a couple of more years
 
The salary cap next season for the National Football League is expected to be the range of $174 million to $178 million, reports NFL.com's Ian Rapoport.


Teams were told of the increase before the league's meetings in Dallas. The official salary cap number won't be known until the start of the league year in March.

This year's salary cap was set at $167 million, which was the fourth straight season the cap saw an increase.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.si.com/nfl/2017/12/13/salary-cap-increase-2018-season
 
Give Bell his $15 mill a year. **** it. It isnt my money and he is one of if not the best back in the game. I personally hate all the drama our stars throw out all the time. It is just how it is anymore. The bottom line is they are talented ....very talented. Hopefully if we extend him it keeps Ben around. And I'm not just talking about Ben's current contract....but a few years after this one runs out. I think Ben will play another 5 years if he thinks the team has a shot at the SB every year.
 
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