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Lamar Jackson, the bottom is falling out beneath him.

I never said anything or the sort. If I mocked Jeff George, who I bought into the post later and kept the topic on him, you know who would say nothing, but because its Lamar Jackson on the dirty Ravens it's suddenly its racial? Eft that. You'll thumbs up anyone who disagree with me. That is your habit. Doesn't mean what I saying is wrong. Ike Kelly is a dumb ***, you can kiss it all you wish.

Oh woah is OutCoached. Playing victim. What you are saying isn’t wrong? You haven’t even answered the question asked several times about it. What did you mean when you said “listen to the way Jackson speaks”? You’ve said he’s “not very bright” and “has a low IQ”. Is his communication skills in front of a mic derivative of his IQ, or how bright he is? Tua scored a 13, so he has to be worse by your method of determining intelligence. Prove your statement, it’s accusatory unless you answer the question. What is the rationale for your opinion? Or is it you can’t save face, because you talk more BS than anyone on this board and can’t back up none of it. And you call me the dumbass. Sorry that is your permanent nomenclature on this board, no one wears it better than you.

Oh BTW, sure Jeff George had a low Wonderlic score, but it wasn’t because he wasn’t smart, or lack the ability to read defenses. He just didn’t care about it. The guy could play QB, but was a complete *******. In Indy and especially in Atlanta. Pointed fingers at EVERYONE but himself. The guy couldn’t get along with June Jones, one of the most easy going coaches who coached in the league.


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I never said anything or the sort. If I mocked Jeff George, who I bought into the post later and kept the topic on him, you know who would say nothing, but because its Lamar Jackson on the dirty Ravens it's suddenly its racial? Eft that. You'll thumbs up anyone who disagree with me. That is your habit. Doesn't mean what I saying is wrong. Ike Kelly is a dumb ***, you can kiss it all you wish.

I am just telling you you have been called out before by a poster, it wasn't me that accused you of having racial tendencies it was someone else. I have no idea if you are or not but you sort of come across like it. It upsets you when I like other peoples posts directed at you? Stop being a twatwaffle and I will stop hitting like.

Until then you are needed in the clean up UPMC thread, bring your tongue.
 
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I'm implying nothing. I am saying he's not very bright, and part of that has to do with reading a defense and that spills over to his QB play.

Watch his interview, here I'll use one when the Ravens won the game.

The average person needs subtitles to understand him.

He's a bit like Vince Young. Young took the NFL by storm early, then NFL adjusted. Like Young Jackson's wonderlic score was very low.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI9cqH0B2ys

I hope the Ravens make him the highest paid player in football!
Again you might as well say, "Lamar Jackson is black and his slang and ebonics are hard for me to understand". Don't sugar coat it with your asinine assumptions that "he's not very bright".

You continue to offend me. I'm not going to let you get away with it.

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I am just telling you you have been called out before by a poster, it wasn't me that accused you of having racial tendencies it was someone else. I have no idea if you are or not but you sort of come across like it. It upsets you when I like other peoples posts directed at you? Stop being a twatwaffle and I will stop hitting like.

Until then you are needed in the clean up UPMC thread, bring your tongue.
Last sentence = COMEDY GOLD!!!

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Again you might as well say, "Lamar Jackson is black and his slang and ebonics are hard for me to understand". Don't sugar coat it with your asinine assumptions that "he's not very bright".

You continue to offend me. I'm not going to let you get away with it.

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Thing is cooch doesn't get players need football field smarts not Wonderlic smarts. We aren't in the film room determining if he has difficulty reading defenses or if he has accuracy issues. I would imagine that there is a hell of a lot of QBs that have issues with one or the other if not both. So assuming Jackson isn't very bright is based off what? It is easy to think skin color comes into play.

Don't be so ignorant cooch it isn't a good look.
 
Thing is cooch doesn't get players need football field smarts not Wonderlic smarts. We aren't in the film room determining if he has difficulty reading defenses or if he has accuracy issues. I would imagine that there is a hell of a lot of QBs that have issues with one or the other if not both. So assuming Jackson isn't very bright is based off what? It is easy to think skin color comes into play.

Don't be so ignorant cooch it isn't a good look.
You're absolutely correct. He's trying to cover it up by posting a video stating, "the average person needs subtitles to understand him"...

**** Outcoached. Period the end.

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"We ticked off. Don't nobody like losining" , said Lamar Jackson. The Ravens fell to 0-6 when Jackson is the starter and they trail by 10-plus points at any point in the game.The reigning NFL MVP also had his fifth game with a sub-100 passer rating, which ties the longest streak of his young career (Weeks 3-7, 2019).


https://www.nfl.com/news/lamar-jackson-ravens-ticked-off-after-loss-to-patriots


The decline continues. Despite being down and needing to pass, all Jackson could only muster 249 yards on 34 attempts ( 7.32 per pass, which is low ). The pick he threw cost his team points.





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To be fair, I don't think any QB would have a great record after being down by 10pts in a game.
 
Coach while you may not have meant to be offensive, the posts you have made in here are edging to racist. i have warned you many time about calling people stupid or making insulting comments about what their jobs may be.

I am not going to warn any longer. You are an annoying little ********. Some here think you have add tiny bit of posts that are not complete bullshit. That is the only reason you are still here.

If you continue to post comments like those in this thread I will show you the ******* door and cement it in behind you
 
Again you might as well say, "Lamar Jackson is black and his slang and ebonics are hard for me to understand". Don't sugar coat it with your asinine assumptions that "he's not very bright".

You continue to offend me. I'm not going to let you get away with it.

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What? Lamar Jackson is Black? When did this happen? Just admit it, you are rooting for a Raven based on his skin tone. How freaken sad. And no, I won't let you get away with it.

I think he's an idiot and that has nothing to do with ethnicity or skin tone. If I offend you with the truth, that's your problem. Just listen to the man speak, and see his wonderlic score which is very low. Also it's not wise blaming your coaching staff.
 
Coach while you may not have meant to be offensive, the posts you have made in here are edging to racist. i have warned you many time about calling people stupid or making insulting comments about what their jobs may be.

I am not going to warn any longer. You are an annoying little ********. Some here think you have add tiny bit of posts that are not complete bullshit. That is the only reason you are still here.

If you continue to post comments like those in this thread I will show you the ******* door and cement it in behind you

Are you going to stop the personal attacks against me which I almost never start? No, I did not mean to be offensive. Someone is making a baseless claim, and the other posters are trying to jump on the pile. I'm not going to apologize for being called something I'm not. If someone called you the same, your reaction would be?
 
What? Lamar Jackson is Black? When did this happen? Just admit it, you are rooting for a Raven based on his skin tone. How freaken sad. And no, I won't let you get away with it.

I think he's an idiot and that has nothing to do with ethnicity or skin tone. If I offend you with the truth, that's your problem. Just listen to the man speak, and see his wonderlic score which is very low. Also it's not wise blaming your coaching staff.

It’s curious isn’t it? You provide a quasi joke about Jackson’s race and then state someone is favoring the player because of his.....race.

It’s fine you think Jackson is an idiot regardless of his “ethnicity or skin tone”, that’s your OPINION. To say you “offend with the truth”, what truth are you stating? You haven’t provided a “truth” to anything factual, you’ve only stated your opinion (albeit filled with egotism and conceit).

The only truth here is, once again, OutCoached is owned and out-coached.


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What did you mean when you said “listen to the way Jackson speaks”?
I think he meant Jackson sounds like a ******* moron. As a former English major it pains me when people of any skin color speak as though they have no understanding or respect for their native language. Public speaking classes are VASTLY underrated.

He is not an English teacher, who cares how he speaks as that doesn't have anything to do with his playing capacity?
Neither are you, and yet you manage to write with relative fluency in your native language. I can only assume you can also speak in a way that is comprehensible.

EVERYONE should be able to read, speak and write at a competent level. If they can't it is due to a failure of the education system at many many points in their life.

Sorry. Rant over. I can't say whether Coach meant to be racist or not. But if a guy talks like a moron, he talks like a moron. Skin's got nothing to do with it.
 
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Coach, I'm only gonna say this: 13 on a wonderlic test doesn't make Lamar Jackson dumb anymore than a supposed 38 makes you smart. I know a lot of people that are book smart but lack any discernible form of common sense. I also know a guy that didn't finish 9th grade and has degrees in engineering and biochemistry.

Just be careful of how you judge people and what you say in that judgement. People here now see you as maybe a racist, even if you didn't mean it that way. Maybe stick to the way he plays football rather than the way he talks, and none of this happens.

Damn. I defended a Baltimore Raven. I'm going to go shower now.
 
I think he meant Jackson sounds like a ******* moron. As a former English major it pains me when people of any skin color speak as though they have no understanding or respect for their native language. Public speaking classes are VASTLY underrated.

Neither are you, and yet you manage to write with relative fluency in your native language. I can only assume you can also speak in a way that is comprehensible.

EVERYONE should be able to read, speak and write at a competent level. If they can't it is due to a failure of the education system at many many points in their life.

Sorry. Rant over. I can't say whether Coach meant to be racist or not. But if a guy talks like a moron, he talks like a moron. Skin's got nothing to do with it.
I can even speak relatively fluent in your language, amazing right?

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Coach, I'm only gonna say this: 13 on a wonderlic test doesn't make Lamar Jackson dumb anymore than a supposed 38 makes you smart. I know a lot of people that are book smart but lack any discernible form of common sense. I also know a guy that didn't finish 9th grade and has degrees in engineering and biochemistry.

Just be careful of how you judge people and what you say in that judgement. People here now see you as maybe a racist, even if you didn't mean it that way. Maybe stick to the way he plays football rather than the way he talks, and none of this happens.

Damn. I defended a Baltimore Raven. I'm going to go shower now.

If I remember correctly, Dan Marino was like a 16 on the wonderlic. Can someone check that out please.
 
NFL Wonderlic Scores
Pat McInally 50 P
Mike Mamula 49 LB
Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 QB
Greg McElroy 48 QB
Benjamin Watson 48 TE
Kevin Curtis 48 WR
Matt Birk 46 OL
Jason Maas 43 QB
Eric Decker 43 WR
Blaine Gabbert 42 QB
Drew Henson 42 QB
Pete Kendall 41 LB
Ryan Nassib 41 QB
Bruce Eugene 41 QB
Hugh Millen 41 QB
Calvin Johnson 41 WR
Carson Wentz 40 QB
Alex Smith 40 QB
Darrell Hackney 40 QB
Jeff Matthews 40 QB
Sean Mannion 40 QB
Nate Stanley 40 QB
Eli Manning 39 QB
Todd Husak 39 QB
Brian Griese 39 QB
Jeff Hartings 38 OL
Gabe Ikard 38 OL
Matthew Stafford 38 QB
Colin Kaepernick 38 QB
Matt Flynn 38 QB
Omar Jacobs 38 QB
Charlie Frye 38 QB
Craig Crenzel 38 QB
Scott Frost 38 QB
Kevin Hogan 38 QB
Scott Tolzien 38 QB
Josh Allen 37 QB
Akili Smith 37 QB
Tony Romo 37 QB
Andrew Luck 37 QB
Travis Lulay 37 QB
Marques Hagans 37 QB
Chuck Hartlieb 37 QB
Joey Bosa 37 DL
Cooper Kupp 37 WR
Jared Goff 36 QB
Sam Bradford 36 QB
Justin Holland 36 QB
Drew Bledsoe 36 QB
Jason Garrett 36 QB
Anthony Dilweg 36 QB
Jared Zabransky 36 QB
Jack Mewhort 36 OL
Larry Ogunjobi 36 DT
John Michaels 35 OL
Jonathan Ogden 35 OL
Aaron Rodgers 35 QB
Matt Leinart 35 QB
Christian Ponder 35 QB
Kellen Clemens 35 QB
Wes Pate 35 QB
Zak Kustok 35 QB
JT O'Sullivan 35 QB
Ryan lindley 35 QB
Travis Brown 35 QB
John Dutton 35 QB
Steve From 35 QB
Drew Stanton 35 QB
Zach Zenner 35 RB
Dare Ogunbowale 35 RB
Eric Saubert 35 TE
Jake Fromm 35 QB
Luke Kuechly 34 LB
Shayne Skov 34 LB
Craig Ochs 34 QB
Sam Keller 34 QB
Cory Pyles 34 QB
Ryan Tannehill 34 QB
Brad Kaaya 34 QB
Demaryius Thomas 34 WR
Marcus Williams 34 S
Chidobe Awuzie 34 S
Chris Long 34 DE
Jeff Baca 34 OG
Jonathan Cooper 34 OG
Joe Burrow 34 QB
Tom Brady 33 QB
Nathan Peterman 33 QB
Charlie Whitehurst 33 QB
Josh Betts 33 QB
Justin Fuente 33 QB
Mike Elkins 33 QB
Steve Young 33 QB
Marcus Mariota 33 QB
Kirk Cousins 33 QB
Austin Rehkow 33 P
Chris Borland 32 LB
Jake Matthews 32 OL
Johnny Manziel 32 QB
Matt Ryan 32 QB
Girbran Hamdan 32 QB
Joey Jarrington 32 QB
Patrick Ramsey 32 QB
Jesse Palmer 32 QB
Sage Rosenfels 32 QB
Walter Church 32 QB
Giovanni Carmazza 32 QB
Sam Keenan 32 QB
Kevin Daft 32 QB
Brian Brohm 32 QB
Josh Woodrum 32 QB
Ezekiel Elliott 32 RB
Jared Abbrederis 32 WR
Jake Butt 32 TE
Kareem Martin 31 DE
Myles Garrett 31 DE
JJ Watt 31 DE
Max Bullouch 31 LB
Terrell Suggs 31 LB
Russell Bodine 31 OL
Nico Siragusa 31 OL
Chase Roullier 31 OL
Matt Schaub 31 QB
Andrew Walton 31 QB
JP Losman 31 QB
Dave Ragone 31 QB
Kliff Kingsbury 31 QB
Greg Noll 31 QB
Justin Coleman 31 QB
Todd Bandhauer 31 QB
Cody Fajardo 31 QB
Rick Mirer 31 QB
Trent Edwards 31 QB
Connor Halliday 31 QB
Bryce Petty 31 QB
Corey Davis 31 WR
Dez Southward 31 S
Eben Britton 31 OT
David Yankey 30 OL
Quincy Carter 30 QB
Phillip Rivers 30 QB
Ricky Stanzi 30 QB
Ingle Martin 30 QB
Josh Haldi 30 QB
Stefan Lefors 30 QB
Trevor Knight 30 QB
Gino Guigudli 30 QB
Matt Mauck 30 QB
Scott Rislov 30 QB
Daniel Cobb 30 QB
Josh McCown 30 QB
Darnell Kennedy 30 QB
Matt Barkley 30 QB
Josh Siple 30 QB
Bill Burke 30 QB
David Klingler 30 QB
John Beck 30 QB
Zach Mettenberger 30 QB
Levon Myers 30 T
Joel Bitonio 29 OL
Dan Feeney 29 OL
Taylor Moton 29 OL
Ethan Pocic 29 OL
Chris Wormley 29 DT
Caleb Brantley 29 DT
Josh Rosen 29 QB
Troy Aikman 29 QB
Brady Quinn 29 QB
John Elway 29 QB
Andy Dalton 29 QB
Rex Grossman 29 QB
Chris Weinke 29 QB
Marc Bulger 29 QB
Jeff Driskel 29 QB
Nick Foles 29 QB
Josh Dobbs 29 QB
Ronnie Stanley 29 DB
Brian Cook Click 29 QB
Matt Hasselbeck 29 QB
Bill Musgrave 29 QB
Dennis Dixon 29 QB
Jimmy Garoppolo 29 QB
Logan Thomas 29 QB
Keith Wenning 29 QB
Tom Savage 29 QB
Aaron Murray 29 QB
Keenan Robinson 29 LB
T.J. Watt 29 LB
Anthony Walker 29 LB
Ahkello Witherspoon 29 CB
Jordan Matthews 29 WR
Danny Woodhead 29 RB
Jake Luton 29 QB
Jordy Nelson 28 WR
Trent Murphy 28 DE
Anthony Barr 28 LB
Raekwon McMillan 28 LB
Julie'n Davenport 28 OL
Cameron Tom 28 OL
Sam Darnold 28 QB
Blake Bortles 28 QB
Mark Sanchez 28 QB
Juston Wood 28 QB
Brooks Bollinger 28 QB
Seth Burford 28 QB
George Godsey 28 QB
Drew Brees 28 QB
Caitlin Down 28 QB
Peyton Manning 28 QB
Kevin Kolb 28 QB
Matt Gutierrez 28 QB
Deshone Kizer 28 QB
EJ Manuel 28 QB
Russell Wilson 28 QB
Nate Sudfeld 28 QB
Landry Jones 28 QB
Ross Cockrell 27 CB
Brent Urgan 27 DE
Jonathan Allen 27 DT
John Mobley 27 LB
Clay Matthews 27 LB
Zach Martin 27 OL
O.J. Howard 27 TE
Josh Freeman 27 QB
Joe Flacco 27 QB
Dustin Long 27 QB
Kyle Boller 27 QB
Brian St. Pierre 27 QB
Kirk Farmer 27 QB
Jason Guesser 27 QB
Brandon Dillman 27 QB
Jameis Winston 27 QB
Jonathan Smith 27 QB
Aaron Smith 27 QB
Mike McMahon 27 QB
David Rivers 27 QB
Josh Booty 27 QB
Tim Mckay 27 QB
Chris Greeson 27 QB
Ryan Leaf 27 QB
Kelly Stouffer 27 QB
Rich Gannon 27 QB
Alex Brink 27 QB
Brandon Weeden 27 QB
Jordan Love 27 QB
Carson Palmer 26 QB
Jay Cutler 26 QB
Kyle Orton 26 QB
C.J. Beathard 26 QB
Ryan Mallett 26 QB
Dan Orlovsky 26 QB
Brett Hundley 26 QB
Adrian Mcpherson 26 QB
Kellen Moore 26 QB
Jason White 26 QB
Timmy Chang 26 QB
Jason Fife 26 QB
Jared Lorenzen 26 QB
Major Applewhite 26 QB
Tim Lester 26 QB
Akili Smith 26 QB
Rodney Peete 26 QB
Mike Glennon 26 QB
Alex Anzalone 26 LB
Jabrill Peppers 26 S
Charles Scott 26 RB
Evan Engram 26 TE
Bradley Roby 25 CB
Aaron Colvin 25 CB
Aaron Donald 25 DT
Dalvin Tomlinson 25 DT
Ja'Wuan James 25 OL
Baker Mayfield 25 QB
Ben Roethlisberger 25 QB
Chad Pennington 25 QB
Colt McCoy 25 QB
Cardale Jones 25 QB
Shane Carden 25 QB
Ben Dougherty 25 QB
Casey Bramlett 25 QB
Bradley Van Pelt 25 QB
Byron Leftwich 25 QB
Ken Dorsey 25 QB
Dak Prescott 25 QB
David Neal 25 QB
Randy Fasani 25 QB
Davis Webb 25 QB
Mitchell Trubisky 25 QB
Shaun Hill 25 QB
Connor Cook 25 QB
Brock Osweiler 25 QB
Shane Griggs 25 QB
Josh Harris 25 QB
Spurgeon Wynn 25 QB
Brock Huard 25 QB
Joe Jermaine 25 QB
Shaun King 25 QB
Giovani Bernard 25 RB
Anthony Dixon 25 RB
Arian Foster 25 RB
Connor Harris 25 FB
Justin Evans 25 S
Mike Evans 25 WR
Jeremy Maclin 25 WR
Justin Herbert 25 QB
Anthony Gordon 25 QB
Brian lewerke 25 QB
Richard Sherman 24 CB
Marcus Jones 24 DE
Solomon Thomas 24 DE
Regan Upshaw 24 LB
Kevin Pierre-Louis 24 LB
JaMarcus Russell 24 QB
Jacoby Brissett 24 QB
Tyler Bray 24 QB
Geno Smith 24 QB
Brad Smith 24 QB
Brodie Croyle 24 QB
Chris Ricks 24 QB
Luke Mccown 24 QB
John Navarre 24 QB
Zac Dysert 24 QB
Josh Blankenship 24 QB
Eric Crouch 24 QB
David Carr 24 QB
Scott Mitchell 24 QB
Christian Hackenberg 24 QB
Patrick Mahomes 24 QB
Marquis Tuiasasopo 24 QB
Billy Joe Tolliver 24 QB
Kevin O'Connell 24 QB
Josh Johnson 24 QB
Colt Brennan 24 QB
John Skelton 24 QB
Dorian Johnson 24 OL
Jerick Mckinnon 24 RB
Alvin Kamara 24 RB
Jahvid Best 24 RB
Robert Griffin III 24 QB
Colt Lyerla 24 TE
David Njoku 24 TE
Gerald Everett 24 TE
Adam Shaheen 24 TE
Stephon Tuitt 23 DE
Marshon Lattimore 23 CB
Fabian Moreau 23 CB
Louis Nix 23 DT
Robert Woods 23 WR
Santonio Holmes 23 WR
Andre Johnson 23 WR
Jimmy Clausen 23 QB
Jason Campbell 23 QB
Jeff Smoker 23 QB
Robert Kent 23 QB
Dave Bryant 23 QB
Greg Zalman 23 QB
Tim Hasselbeck 23 QB
Jordan Palmer 23 QB
Justin Rascati 23 QB
Graham Harrell 23 QB
Jason Thomas 23 QB
Connor Shaw 23 QB
Terrell Manning 23 LB
Charles Harris 23 LB
Alex Moulden 23 LB
Brian Cushing 23 LB
Vince Biegel 23 LB
Jarrad Davis 23 LB
Roderick Johnson 23 OL
Forrest Lamp 23 OL
Lawrence Phillips 23 RB
Andre Williams 23 RB
Terrence Brooks 23 S
Jacob Eason 23 QB
James Morgan 23 QB
Reggie Brown 22 LB
Zach Cunningham 22 LB
Taco Charlton 22 DE
Greg Robinson 22 OL
Jamain Stephens 22 OL
Tim Tebow 22 QB
Brett Farve 22 QB
Mark Brunell 22 QB
Trent Dilfer 22 QB
Matt Scott 22 QB
Chad Henne 22 QB
BJ Simons 22 QB
Scott Mcmullen 22 QB
Chris Simms 22 QB
Chad Kelly 22 QB
Ronald Curry 22 QB
Ben Leard 22 QB
Bart Hendricks 22 QB
Chris Chaloupka 22 QB
Gramley 22 QB
Tim Couch 22 QB
Mike Took 22 QB
Mark Brunel 22 QB
Brett Favre 22 QB
Chris Miller 22 QB
Erik Ainge 22 QB
Jevan Snead 22 QB
AJ McCarron 22 QB
Jeremy Hill 22 RB
Malcolm Kelly 22 WR
Jalen Strong 22 WR
Curtis Samuel 22 WR
Walt Harris 21 CB
Kevin Hardy 21 LB
Jarrad Davis 21 LB
Haason Reddick 21 LB
Jermane Mayberry 21 OL
Taylor Lewan 21 OL
Pat Elflein 21 OL
Cam Newton 21 QB
Retton Mitchell 21 QB
Mark Garcia 21 QB
Scott Covington 21 QB
Don Makowski 21 QB
Jeff Rowe 21 QB
Tyler Thigpen 21 QB
Jerod Evans 21 QB
Amari Cooper 21 WR
Christian McCaffrey 21 RB
Donnel Pumphrey 21 RB
Duane Clemons 20 DE
Tim Williams 20 DE
Marlon Humphrey 20 CB
Timmy Jernigan 20 DT
Eddie Vanderdoes 20 DT
Ryan Shazier 20 LB
Demarcus Lawrence 20 LB
Marcus Martin 20 OL
Ryan Ramczyk 20 OL
Deshaun Watson 20 QB
Teddy Bridgewater 20 QB
Jake Locker 20 QB
Derek Carr 20 QB
Cody Pickett 20 QB
Tyler Wilson 20 QB
Andrew Hall 20 QB
Casey Clausen 20 QB
Ryan Little 20 QB
John Welsh 20 QB
Michael Vick 20 QB
Dylan Smith 20 QB
Richart Casey 20 QB
Jonathan Beasley 20 QB
Scott Tries Back 20 QB
Luke Getsy 20 QB
Andre' Woodson 20 QB
Garrett Grayson 20 QB
Anthony Boone 20 QB
Jonathan Stewart 20 RB
Melvin Gordon 20 RB
Corey Clement 20 RB
Dorial Green-Beckham 20 WR
Ardarius Stewart 20 WR
Cedric Jones 19 DE
Prince Shembo 19 LB
Keenan Allen 19 WR
Reggie Mcneal 19 QB
Bruce Gradkowski 19 QB
Tarvaris Jackson 19 QB
DJ Shockley 19 QB
Derek Anderson 19 QB
Matt Jones 19 QB
Brian Randall 19 QB
Jared Allen 19 QB
AJ Feeley 19 QB
Dri Archer 19 RB
Marvin Harrison 19 WR
Tua Tagovailoa 19 QB
Daunte Culpepper 18 QB
Eric Meyer 18 QB
Cleo Lemon 18 QB
Jarius Jackson 18 QB
Joe Hamilton 18 QB
Kevin Frederick 18 QB
Marcus Lattimore 18 RB
Melvin Ingram 18 LB
Tyler Palko 18 QB
Paxton Lynch 18 QB
Emmanuel Sanders 18 WR
Larry Fitzgerald 18 WR
Dexter McCluster 18 WR
Matt Forte 18 RB
Jalen Hurts 18 QB
Jason Verrett 17 CB
Gareon Conley 17 CB
Daniel McCullers 17 DT
Khalil Mack 17 LB
Rod Rutherford 17 QB
Antwaan Randle El 17 QB
Rohan Davey 17 QB
Woodrow Dantzler 17 QB
Aaron Brooks 17 QB
Jeff Blake 17 QB
Vinny Testaverde 17 QB
Mike Williams 17 WR
Le'Veon Bell 17 RB
Eddie Lacy 17 RB
Josh Jones 17 S
Jimmie Ward 17 S
Malik Hooker 17 S
Kyle Van Noy 16 LB
Lavonte David 16 LB
Cam Robinson 16 OL
Terry Bradshaw 16 QB
Kent Smith 16 QB
Dante Kanner 16 QB
Chris Redman 16 QB
Anthony Wright 16 QB
Heath Shuler 16 QB
Dan Marino 16 QB
Elvis Grbac 16 QB
Eric Ebron 16 TE
Jalen Saunders 16 WR
John Ross 16 WR
Dez Bryant 16 WR
Adolphys Washington 16 DT
Ryan Mathews 16 RB
LeGarrette Blount 16 RB
Seantrel Henderson 15 OL
Malik McDowell 15 DE
Randall Cunningham 15 QB
Jim Kelly 15 QB
Vince Young 15 QB
Jim Sorgi 15 QB
Steve Mcnair 15 QB
Terry Bradshaw 15 QB
Troy Smith 15 QB
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix 15 S
Deone Bucannon 15 S
Devontae Booker 15 RB
Devon Johnson 15 RB
Terry Glenn 15 WR
Julio Jones 15 WR
Josh Brown 15 WR
Chad Jackson 15 WR
Michael Crabtree 15 WR
Devante Parker 15 WR
Jon Baldwin 14 WR
Darrius Heyward-Bey 14 WR
Sammie Coates 14 WR
Justin Gilbert 14 CB
Sojourn Shelton 14 CBm
Jadeveon Clowney 14 DE
Willie Anderson 14 OL
Mychal Kendricks 14 DL
David Garrard 14 QB
Seneca Wallace 14 QB
Marshawn Lynch 14 RB
Wayne Madkin 14 QB
Ortega Jenkins 14 QB
Donovan Mcnabb 14 QB
John David Booty 14 QB
Charlie Batch 14 QB
Kordell Stewart 14 QB
Eddie George 14 RB
De'Anthony Thomas 14 RB
Jerome Woods 14 S
Mo Alexander 14 S
Budda Baker 14 S
Rickey Dudley 14 TE
Martavis Bryant 14 WR
Simeon Rice 13 DE
Reggie Wayne 13 WR
Ra'Shede Hageman 13 DT
Ray Lewis 13 LB
Lamar Jackson 13 QB
Rasheed Marshall 13 QB
Brock Berlin 13 QB
Brad Banks 13 QB
Neil O'Donnell 13 QB
Lamarcus Joyner 13 S
Stanley Jean-Baptiste 12 CB
Dion Dawkins 12 OL
Ted White 12 QB
Tobi Karrode 12 QB
Joe Mixon 12 RB
Tim Biakabutuka 12 RB
George Atkinson 12 RB
Matt Dayes 12 RB
Eddie Kennison 12 WR
Percy Harvin 12 WR
Randy Moss 12 WR
Todd Gurley 12 RB
Louis Delmas 12 FS
Kyle Fuller 11 CB
Jamal Adams 11 S
Daryl Gardener 11 DT
Marcus Smith 11 QB
Ell Robertson 11 QB
Romario Miller 11 QB
Tee Martin 11 QB
Keyshawn Johnson 11 WR
Torry Holt 11 WR
Eric Moulds 11 WR
Cordarrelle Patterson 11 WR
Christine Michael 11 RB
Dalvin Cook 11 RB
Leonard Fournette 11 RB
Hakeem Nicks 11 WR
Kony Ealy 10 DE
Derrelle Revis 10 CB
Michael Bishop 10 QB
Jeff George 10 QB
CJ Spiller 10 RB
Chris Johnson 10 RB
Reggie Ragland 10 LB
Carroll Phillips 10 LB
AJ Green 10 WR
Charles Rogers 10 WR
Sebastian Janikowski 9 K
Carlos Hyde 9 RB
DeForest Buckner 9 DE
Travis Henry 9 RB
Kadeem Carey 9 RB
Lache Seastrunk 9 RB
Reuben Foster 9 LB
Garett Bolles 9 OL
Chris Leak 8 QB
Vince Evans 8 QB
Bobby Wagner 8 LB
Terrelle Pryor 7 QB
Tavon Austin 7 RB
Kelvin Benjamin 7 WR
Vince Young 6 QB
Oscar Davenport 6 QB
Frank Gore 6 RB
Edward Prather 5 S
Morris Claiborne 4 CB
Darren Davis 4 RB
 
If Coach said the same stuff about a white QB, would people be bothered with that? I doubt many would bat an eye. I think there are stupid black players and white players. I can base my opinion on whatever I hear and see from them.. sorry if that offends anyone. It certainly doesn’t mean I’m racist.

I don’t even know what all Coach said but damn, people are sitting at the edge of their seats ready to call people racist anymore. Can’t a guy be called stupid anymore without threats of racism being thrown around?

I don’t think Rudolph is the brightest person in the world..

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Friend of mine attended Pitt same time as Marino. Word on campus was Dan never failed .... he would either be given an incomplete, or be allowed to drop the course. Supposedly this happened a lot of times.
 
What? Lamar Jackson is Black? When did this happen? Just admit it, you are rooting for a Raven based on his skin tone. How freaken sad. And no, I won't let you get away with it.

I think he's an idiot and that has nothing to do with ethnicity or skin tone. If I offend you with the truth, that's your problem. Just listen to the man speak, and see his wonderlic score which is very low. Also it's not wise blaming your coaching staff.

You continue to show your true colors.
 
sure looked like Kordell 98-99, 2002 there on sunday night, some plays like the drop by andrews iu dont care you know its wet you have huge hands you gotta make those catches
 
If Coach said the same stuff about a white QB, would people be bothered with that? I doubt many would bat an eye. I think there are stupid black players and white players. I can base my opinion on whatever I hear and see from them.. sorry if that offends anyone. It certainly doesn’t mean I’m racist.

I don’t even know what all Coach said but damn, people are sitting at the edge of their seats ready to call people racist anymore. Can’t a guy be called stupid anymore without threats of racism being thrown around?

I don’t think Rudolph is the brightest person in the world..

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I suggest you read his posts. I don't care what others think - his comments offended me and that's that.
 
Are you going to stop the personal attacks against me which I almost never start? No, I did not mean to be offensive. Someone is making a baseless claim, and the other posters are trying to jump on the pile. I'm not going to apologize for being called something I'm not. If someone called you the same, your reaction would be?

never asked you to apologize I told you to watch what you post.

you may not be racist but you certainly come across like the type of ignorant elitist prick who would be racist.
 
NFL Wonderlic Scores
Cedric Jones 19 DE
Prince Shembo 19 LB
Keenan Allen 19 WR
Reggie Mcneal 19 QB
Bruce Gradkowski 19 QB
Tarvaris Jackson 19 QB
DJ Shockley 19 QB
Derek Anderson 19 QB
Matt Jones 19 QB
Brian Randall 19 QB
Jared Allen 19 QB
AJ Feeley 19 QB
Dri Archer 19 RB
Marvin Harrison 19 WR
Tua Tagovailoa 19 QB Several outlets have reported his score was actually a 13 and was "leaked" as a 19 in order to keep his draft stock steady
Daunte Culpepper 18 QB
Eric Meyer 18 QB
Cleo Lemon 18 QB
Jarius Jackson 18 QB
Joe Hamilton 18 QB
Kevin Frederick 18 QB
Marcus Lattimore 18 RB
Melvin Ingram 18 LB
Tyler Palko 18 QB
Paxton Lynch 18 QB
Emmanuel Sanders 18 WR
Larry Fitzgerald 18 WR

Dexter McCluster 18 WR
Matt Forte 18 RB
Jalen Hurts 18 QB
Jason Verrett 17 CB
Gareon Conley 17 CB
Daniel McCullers 17 DT
Khalil Mack 17 LB
Rod Rutherford 17 QB
Antwaan Randle El 17 QB
Rohan Davey 17 QB
Woodrow Dantzler 17 QB
Aaron Brooks 17 QB
Jeff Blake 17 QB
Vinny Testaverde 17 QB
Mike Williams 17 WR
Le'Veon Bell 17 RB
Eddie Lacy 17 RB
Josh Jones 17 S
Jimmie Ward 17 S
Malik Hooker 17 S
Kyle Van Noy 16 LB
Lavonte David 16 LB
Cam Robinson 16 OL
Terry Bradshaw 16 QB
Kent Smith 16 QB
Dante Kanner 16 QB
Chris Redman 16 QB
Anthony Wright 16 QB
Heath Shuler 16 QB
Dan Marino 16 QB
Elvis Grbac 16 QB
Eric Ebron 16 TE
Jalen Saunders 16 WR
John Ross 16 WR
Dez Bryant 16 WR
Adolphys Washington 16 DT
Ryan Mathews 16 RB
LeGarrette Blount 16 RB
Seantrel Henderson 15 OL
Malik McDowell 15 DE
Randall Cunningham 15 QB
Jim Kelly 15 QB
Vince Young 15 QB
Jim Sorgi 15 QB
Steve Mcnair 15 QB
Terry Bradshaw 15 QB
Troy Smith 15 QB
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix 15 S
Deone Bucannon 15 S
Devontae Booker 15 RB
Devon Johnson 15 RB
Terry Glenn 15 WR
Julio Jones 15 WR
Josh Brown 15 WR
Chad Jackson 15 WR
Michael Crabtree 15 WR
Devante Parker 15 WR
Jon Baldwin 14 WR
Darrius Heyward-Bey 14 WR
Sammie Coates 14 WR
Justin Gilbert 14 CB
Sojourn Shelton 14 CBm
Jadeveon Clowney 14 DE
Willie Anderson 14 OL
Mychal Kendricks 14 DL
David Garrard 14 QB
Seneca Wallace 14 QB
Marshawn Lynch 14 RB
Wayne Madkin 14 QB
Ortega Jenkins 14 QB
Donovan Mcnabb 14 QB
John David Booty 14 QBS
Charlie Batch 14 QB
Kordell Stewart 14 QB
Eddie George 14 RB
De'Anthony Thomas 14 RB
Jerome Woods 14 S
Mo Alexander 14 S
Budda Baker 14 S
Rickey Dudley 14 TE
Martavis Bryant 14 WR
Simeon Rice 13 DE
Reggie Wayne 13 WR
Ra'Shede Hageman 13 DT
Ray Lewis 13 LB
Lamar Jackson 13 QB
Rasheed Marshall 13 QB
Brock Berlin 13 QB
Brad Banks 13 QB
Neil O'Donnell 13 QB
Lamarcus Joyner 13 S
Stanley Jean-Baptiste 12 CB
Dion Dawkins 12 OL
Ted White 12 QB
Tobi Karrode 12 QB
Joe Mixon 12 RB
Tim Biakabutuka 12 RB
George Atkinson 12 RB
Matt Dayes 12 RB
Eddie Kennison 12 WR
Percy Harvin 12 WR
Randy Moss 12 WR
Todd Gurley 12 RB
Louis Delmas 12 FS
Kyle Fuller 11 CB
Jamal Adams 11 S
Daryl Gardener 11 DT
Marcus Smith 11 QB
Ell Robertson 11 QB
Romario Miller 11 QB
Tee Martin 11 QB

Cordarrelle Patterson 11 WR
Christine Michael 11 RB
Dalvin Cook 11 RB
Leonard Fournette 11 RB
Hakeem Nicks 11 WR
Kony Ealy 10 DE
Derrelle Revis 10 CB
Michael Bishop 10 QB
Jeff George 10 QB
CJ Spiller 10 RB
Chris Johnson 10 RB
Reggie Ragland 10 LB
Carroll Phillips 10 LB
AJ Green 10 WR
Charles Rogers 10 WR
Sebastian Janikowski 9 K
Carlos Hyde 9 RB
DeForest Buckner 9 DE
Travis Henry 9 RB
Kadeem Carey 9 RB
Lache Seastrunk 9 RB
Reuben Foster 9 LB
Garett Bolles 9 OL
Chris Leak 8 QB
Vince Evans 8 QB
Bobby Wagner 8 LB
Terrelle Pryor 7 QB
Tavon Austin 7 RB
Kelvin Benjamin 7 WR
Vince Young 6 QB
Oscar Davenport 6 QB
Frank Gore 6 RB
Edward Prather 5 S
Morris Claiborne 4 CB
Darren Davis 4 RB

Some interesting names fall on that supposed below average line. Somebody needs to tell the University of Tennessee that their Offensive Coordinator is a moron. Also a few guys with media jobs/public speaking gigs. And a WHOLE lot of Pro-Bowl performers.
What does it mean? Heck, I don't know. I do know, however, that if I was a GM, I sure as hell wouldn't be relying on the Wonderlic as the end all, be all to tell me about how intelligent a guy is, or what type of ball player he may grow into being.
 
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