Joey Porter Jr.............................. not dad

[Drink IRON City]

I think that's the consensus of everyone not named Porter. I get trying to get the best deal for yourself that you can, but Jr may well be destroying his future in the process.

JPJ could be solely responsible……….

BUT

Me thinks there is a family member involved as well and whispering in his ear………



Salute the nation

 

[Shane Falco]

JPJ could be solely responsible……….

BUT

Me thinks there is a family member involved as well and whispering in his ear………



Salute the nation

Maybe a former head coach too?

 

[Shane Falco]

All I know is, I couldn't care one way or another at this point. I understand both sides. To me, the tell tale for JPJr is that nobody is blowing up Kahn's phone for a trade (I would wonder if Detroit would come sniffing after getting that torched last night). Also, the Steelers, I can't blame them either. Why pay someone 30+ million/year when next season you can franchise tag for around 23-25 million. To me, it's a financial no brainer.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

JPJ could be solely responsible……….

BUT

Me thinks there is a family member involved as well and whispering in his ear……

Maybe a former head coach too?

However you would think that said family member and said former coach would remember how a similar situation worked out for Lev Bell.
I can’t come down too hard on players not holding up their end of a contract when the teams don’t have to hold up their end but if he doesn’t like it then he should take it up with his shop steward Cam Heyward. Slotted rookie contracts and franchise tags are what your union agreed to.

 

[BLITZ]

Porter and his “back” are back on the injury list. This is some tiresome bullshit. Put his *** on the injured-reserve.

Not sure how it works regarding making sure if bedoesnt play due to contract then this season wouldn't count. But if he's put on IR, the season counts?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Not sure how it works regarding making sure if bedoesnt play due to contract then this season wouldn't count. But if he's put on IR, the season counts?

Correct.

 

[Shane Falco]

Not sure how it works regarding making sure if bedoesnt play due to contract then this season wouldn't count. But if he's put on IR, the season counts?

This could be a very tricky IR designation. If he isn't truly injured, the Steelers could be in a pickle, however, they can only go off of what their physicians and the player tell them. However, if this continues to 'linger' or go on, I wouldn't blame them for putting him on IR-but this would cover 4 weeks. This could also bite JPJr in the arse next season. All the PS would need to do is franchise tag him.

 

[Confluence]

Yes, and we add to them annually. Again, the difference for the Rooney's is the Steelers are their sole source of income. The "value" of the team is meaningless unless they are selling or borrowing against it. is imaginary money Unless you want to be like a certain party and tax unrealized net gains and net worth.

This is a business decision. That is my point.

The Steelers ownership, collectively and including the Rooneys, the McGinleys, the Stallworths, etc. have all decided to remove profits at a level they choose and to approve any borrowing. That is 100% their call on how they run their business.

They could borrow or they could retain profits to handle escrow needs, like other teams.

They choose not to. Business decision that puts them at a competitive disadvantage for player negotiations.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

This could be a very tricky IR designation. If he isn't truly injured, the Steelers could be in a pickle, however, they can only go off of what their physicians and the player tell them. However, if this continues to 'linger' or go on, I wouldn't blame them for putting him on IR-but this would cover 4 weeks. This could also bite JPJr in the arse next season. All the PS would need to do is franchise tag him.

The longer he goes without playing the worse it will be for him next year.
JPJ’s 2027 contract negotiation:
Khan Man: “Lessee Joey, before we give you a franchise tag, what were your stats last season? Hmmm… passes defended 0. Interceptions 0. Tackles 0. Penalties 0, well at least that’s an improvement. Tell ya what, we’ll give you a non-exclusive tag so anyone can sign you and we get a draft pick, of course that might not be for as much as last year since you were on IR with your hurt butt, err I mean back, last year.”

 

[bigben]

They were not cheap with Bell, they offered him top dollar, they just didn't guarantee enough for his liking. See my discussion with Avoid Lloyd. Steelers stars tend to get their money guarantees or not.

The Steelers forced Polamalu to retire or be cut so they wouldn't have to honor the last 2 years of his contract.
Fact
Literally one of the greatest Steelers to ever wear the Black and Gold.
Did him dirty

 

[bigben]

It sounds like you are playing both ends just to criticize Rooney

They kept a near paralyzed Shazier on the roster to get him enough seasons to get into Vested Vet Programs... that meant still paying him and keeping him on PUP..

I mean, they haven't really been shady ********. They just werent total saps when AB wanted to renegotiate every offseason or Bell turned down the contract he wanted a season before and lost millions because of it.

I call it like it is
They forced Troy out to avoid honoring the final 2 years of his contract. Fact

 

[BLITZ]

I call it like it is
They forced Troy out to avoid honoring the final 2 years of his contract. Fact

Lol you are getting weird. FACT

 

[ColdGinAgain]

Both sides have handled this horribly. That being said, if the Steelers cave here take a lowball offer it sets a bad precedent. it's already gone too far, they might as well ride it out and tag him next year. Anything less than a 1st is a huge failure by Khan. Put him on IR or file a grievance and force Joey to prove the injury.

Also... It's time for the Steelers to evolve and get rid of this dumbass policy when it comes to negotiations.