Joe Haden Out Sunday vs Browns

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So if you’re ready to debate, why didn’t you even present an argument.

I presented facts.
I presented data.
I presented a baseline not just for this team, but to another team.

You presented an opinion based on nothing.

You suggest “throwing stats and awards out the window” which is ignorant to the point that is being presented, evaluating a larger sample size.

By your logic, James Harrison wasn’t a good LB after 2008. James Farrior was All Pro in 2004, but not as good ever again. And that’s nonsense.

So you want to factor in schematics—then do so. But I’m not going to do it for you.

Maybe you can tell us what our CB responsibilities are vs. other teams in a Cover-3? When do we go Cover-1 the most? Who slides over to coverage when Mike Hilton comes on corner blitz?

If you want to debate, then please back up your position with logic and bring more than opinion.



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Hey I am debating with you just because it isn't what you want to hear doesn't make it any less. I pointed out the subject which you jumped in on was focusing in on this year not seasons past. So no it wasn't ******* ignorant .Why the **** would we be talking about past seasons performance how is that relative to now? I will answer. IT ISNT.

I pointed out how your presentation was flawed as the corner position is one of the hardest to evaluate for the reasons I provided.

You didn't provide data on who covered what this year. Very relevant. You are arguing against my comments not vice versa, so wouldn't be on you to show the proper data? You didn't.

Those things you are asking me to do you don't know yourself which is why you didn't provide it. Right? I am sorry that is cooch-ish. You didn't like a comment I said but failed to properly compare the two corners. You know which should have been done because you disagreed with my comment.

I provided plenty of ******* logic whether you agree or disagree is a different matter.

Taking underhanded shots at me doesn't solidify your opinion. Sorry it just doesn't.

Oh and I am not discrediting Haden's past seasons performance, it simply isn't relevant to the conversation.