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Is This the Best Coached Team in Steeler History?

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Our Super Bowl teams were loaded with talent. This year started with us having one of the toughest schedules and two key players suspended for the start of the season. Then we lose our kicker in pre-season, our Pro Bowl center, our Pro Bowl running back ( some consider best all round back in league, left tackle and have a secondary near the bottom in talent deficiency in the league, yet we are now being talked about as a realistic Super Bowl contender.

All the credit doesn't go to Tomlin when:
Munchak has line performing solidly after losing two of the best of our starters
Haley has the offense racking up points and yards ( I think he will be in running for Indy job)
Butler has improved the defense from a year ago and has to work with the before mentioned talent short secondary

but Tomlin deserves some. And they are doing it with all those awful draft picks.

We'll see how the season finishes, but if we fix the secondary this team is a contender for years to come and these coaches
aren't going anywhere unless someone else offers them a promotion.
 
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Noll won four rings in 6 years. It is blasphemy to even suggest this. Sure, that team was stacked, but winning 4 rings in 6 years is an incredible feat.
 
All the credit doesn't go to Tomlin when:
Munchak has line performing solidly after losing two of the best of our starters
Haley has the offense racking up points and yards ( I think he will be in running for Indy job)
Butler has improved the defense from a year ago and has to work with the before mentioned talent short secondary

but Tomlin deserves some. And they are doing it with all those awful draft picks. that he had input on along with Colbert...

We'll see how the season finishes, but if we fix the secondary this team is a contender for years to come and these coaches
aren't going anywhere unless someone else offers them a promotion.
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Now, as for the all world center who rarely plays because he's practically always injured. I guess he's good. He's certainly good at spelling IR. I'll give him that.
Our running back, I believe is really good. We'd know for sure if he ever puts together a full season. Perhaps he had a full Rookie season, honestly it's been so long I can't remember.
Our left tackle has been a tackling dummy for most of his career and that's just from us fans, until he was hurt, now he's apparently the Messiah. Clever contract negotiation technique.

Tomlin has had one good game and I'll admit freely that I've seen some signs of life from him for the last few weeks, but that's like seeing a guy in a coma start to fart. Let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. Afterall, he DID just announce that he's sticking with his all-pro home-boy at corner the one, the only Mr. Stickum, Number 41.
 
Omar10213245 said:
Go to bed, you're drunk
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If one wanted to claim this staff is better than Cowher's, it's at least not laughable, out of hand. The offense is tremendous to anything Cowher ever put together. The D is not, although the D in 2008 was,
 
I'm sorry, I can't hear you POP, you're on my ignore list. I'm sure whatever you had to say, while laced with negativity and full of **** was completely dis-interesting and of no use to anyone.

But please, feel free to continue to post hidden stuff. I could care less.
 
It took me a couple of minutes to realize that you were actually serious there 21...then I had a good laugh. Noll is definitely the standard bearer. I wish that Tomlin was 1/2 the coach that Noll was.
 
He's been sucking too much Tomlin dick. holy crap dude lay off that pole.
 
POP said:
If one wanted to claim this staff is better than Cowher's, it's at least not laughable, out of hand. The offense is tremendous to anything Cowher ever put together. The D is not, although the D in 2008 was,
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Seriously? The 1995 Steelers averaged 25.4 PPG. This year with all the changes to the rules to let WR run free and QB not to be touched the offense is averaging 27 PPG or 1.6 PPG difference.

He also averaged over 24.4 PPG with Tommy Maddox in 2002. And with Ben in his 2nd season he averaged 24.3 PPG.
 
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For as much as this TEAM has gone through, TOMLIN is a big part of it. NO this is not the best coached steelers team,....ever. This team has a long way to go and the SB talk, is just that,....talk. One game at a time, win and the rest will take care of itself. When Tomlin gets to 4, then we'll talk.




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Vader said:
Seriously? The 1995 Steelers averaged 25.4 PPG. This year with all the changes to the rules to let WR run free and QB not to be touched the offense is averaging 27 PPG or 1.6 PPG difference.

He also averaged over 24.4 PPG with Tommy Maddox in 2002. And with Ben in his 2nd season he averaged 24.3 PPG.
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Too be fair, for all the games Ben has been able to complete, we're averaging 28.1 PPG. Not to mention the fact that we're now setting records for 30pt games against top defenses...with the toughest schedule in the NFL...
 
Not when they're starting Blake over Boykin, hell no.
 
Some of Cowher and nolls staffs were remarkable... Munchuk is great... the book is out on Butler still. Haley deserves every prop he gets...and I think there cannot be enough said about Mann right now.... but the secondary is suspect, and the LB corps is just rounding into shape... time will tell how this staff is perceived... so please don't trollbait this subject till we see the long term achievements this crew does
 
Cope said:
Too be fair, for all the games Ben has been able to complete, we're averaging 28.1 PPG. Not to mention the fact that we're now setting records for 30pt games against top defenses...with the toughest schedule in the NFL...
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Yes, and Ben was hurt during the 05' season as well. Maddox was hurt and only started 11 games in 2002. Also the rules are so much in favor of the offense now which is different than it was even 10 years ago. So the idea that this offense is "tremendous to anything Cowher ever put together" is just bologna.
 
All I'm gonna say is if you had this offense with the defenses Cower put together throughout his time as HC you would have an unbeatable team in the current NFL landscape. There is no great team out there.
 
Vader said:
Yes, and Ben was hurt during the 05' season as well. Maddox was hurt and only started 11 games in 2002. Also the rules are so much in favor of the offense now which is different than it was even 10 years ago. So the idea that this offense is "tremendous to anything Cowher ever put together" is just bologna.
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I don't disagree with your assessment, but I also don't discredit the steelers for putting this offense together to take advantage of the rules today.
 
Cope said:
I don't disagree with your assessment, but I also don't discredit the steelers for putting this offense together to take advantage of the rules today.
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I have no problem with building an offense in today's NFL. I was just pointing out that this offense isn't so great that it dwarfs every Steeler offense of the past. It doesn't. It's a very good offense but in today's NFL the top 13 teams score more than 24.4 PPG. The Buffalo Bills with a nobody at QB is averaging 24.4 PPG. The Jets average 24.6 PPG. It's unreal how many points are being put up this year. There are 3 teams averaging over 31 PPG.
 
Vader said:
I have no problem with building an offense in today's NFL. I was just pointing out that this offense isn't so great that it dwarfs every Steeler offense of the past. It doesn't. It's a very good offense but in today's NFL the top 13 teams score more than 24.4 PPG. The Buffalo Bills with a nobody at QB is averaging 24.4 PPG. The Jets average 24.6 PPG. It's unreal how many points are being put up this year. There are 3 teams averaging over 31 PPG.
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I see that too. It's much tougher to play defense in today's NFL and it's a reason why teams are scoring more. Though this team, with Ben at the helm, and the talent assembled around him, is a standard deviation above what should be the norm now-a-days. I just don't believe it's on the same level with the Steelers offenses you mentioned previously. I'd only say it's comparable to last year's offense.
 
I wasn't talking about greatest team or career coaching, so 4 Super Bowls in 6 has nothing to do with this.

And the year is still a work in progress, but if this team gets to Super Bowl, I think it is better coached than
any previous year because it will have exceeded expectations by more than any other. Our secondary talent alone is
probably in the bottom 25% of the teams.

One thing Tomlin doesn't get any credit for is being able to have assistants that were former head coaches. That can be a delicate ego
balance, that he doesn't seem to have a problem handling.
 
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