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Is the NFL unwatchable these days?

Flags, replays and all rules help offense. To much talk time on flags, takes the flow completely out of games. I personally liked the 14-9 games when football could be played. I watch basketball in March. I know it is a fantasy world for sports but to much on stats than wins by to many players.
 
Yeah I think a low-scoring or a high-scoring game could potentially be exciting. It depends on how the game is played. A 13-9 game with two truly stifling defenses shutting down skilled offenses would be amazing to watch. A 13-9 game that is full of offensive ineptitude, and not necessarily due to defensive prowess, would be pretty miserable watch.

And I think given the rules slanting everything toward offense, both teams have to play really ****** football for a game to end 13-9. You can't even muster some deep PI's at least?
 
I actually don't give a **** about the Steelers anymore. My son and wife watch the game and I sit there like a salty sarcastic prick making snide comments and bad jokes at team and a game I used to love to my core. Now, it's nothing more than an excuse to drink scotch...not that I need an excuse.

Now there's a way to improve ratings! Replace the commentators with a couple of salty, drunk old men who mock the games
 
I think these are early season woes.

The NFL has rigged it's rules in favor off passing offense. Pocket QBs in particular. Early in the season, pass rushers and DBs are still fresh. Always keep in mind that it is physically more difficult to play D than O, which is why the D has better athletes. As the season wears on they will tire. When that happens, the OL holding will become more prominent and the pass rush will slow down. DBs legs will be burned out, and man coverage less common. Zones will open up and the passes will come. This is what what the NFL wanted: Arena Football.

Look at Brady against the Chiefs and Saints. Against a solid, fresh pass rush and healthy DBs he was stunted. Against an atrocious Saints D he was golden. This, I think, is why Tomlin is holding out Harrison. He wants us to be one of the few teams with a quality pass rusher that also has fresh legs. Tom is in for a surprise come January, and the package is marked #92.
 
Now there's a way to improve ratings! Replace the commentators with a couple of salty, drunk old men who mock the games

That would make helluva commentary.
The salty old drunks could cut the commercial breaks and stick it to the man for us viewers too
 
The expansion of replay is the problem. No fan likes to see their team get screwed but on a macro level you lose excitment of immediate results, even the pure anger at the refs is a strong emotion that is a draw.
 
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Not sure what the problem is i just say it's life. I used to watch football all day Saturday and all day Sunday. Now i may watch a few college games and i have even found myself nodding off during the steeler games. I used to know like 90% of players in the NFL now I'm lucky if i can can name 25%. Of course i have a job that i work every other weekend, a gf, and a daughter. For me it's just a combo of things. I do enjoy steeler prime time games more though.
 
Now there's a way to improve ratings! Replace the commentators with a couple of salty, drunk old men who mock the games

How you and me as the announcers, Trog? I think we would be a hit.
 
Disclaimer: I'm referring to the actual on-field product only


It's getting as close to unwatchable as it can get. Any much closer and I WON'T BE WATCHING................

The reason is pretty straight forward. In football you have three facets to the game. Offense was given way more power, special teams have been limited with some power removal given to offense. Defense has been way strapped with a lot of power removed. Now what you have is a lopesided game being called football. It's not original football due to the power influx in favor of the offense and excitement taken away from special teams.

**** the current NFL.



Salute the nation
 
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Not sure what the problem is i just say it's life. I used to watch football all day Saturday and all day Sunday. Now i may watch a few college games and i have even found myself nodding off during the steeler games. I used to know like 90% of players in the NFL now I'm lucky if i can can name 25%. Of course i have a job that i work every other weekend, a gf, and a daughter. For me it's just a combo of things. I do enjoy steeler prime time games more though.

Totally understand. But to be fair, I'm talking only about how watchable and exciting the games are. I know as people get married, have kids, get jobs, etc. they have less time for football. But that's a problem for the NFL every year since it's inception. In every industry that relies on people having some free time, they will lapse some customers due to growing out of the hobby, more life responsibilities, etc.

I'm talking about for those of us who are willing and able to watch. According to those articles, folks are tuning in then tuning out. It's people who want to watch the games, they're just bored of it once it starts. The talk has been quiet for the past few years but really starting to get louder and louder. I think it's becoming a legitimate problem for the NFL. Yes there are other factors (cord cutting, more entertainment options, some just growing up like this poster, boycotts for various political reasons, etc.) but a real, serious problem is that people who CAN and WANT to watch NFL football are just flat not entertained anymore by the games. College football does not have this problem. Refs aren't as flag happy, there are variations in offensive styles, QBs aren't just taking the safe routes every time, etc. Many reasons. It's super interesting to me and I think the NFL needs to immediately find ways to get the actual game play closer to the way it used to be. You can still get head shots out of the game while not flagging DB's for every minor tug and push. Let DB's play, give QB's incentive to throw the ball down the field, etc.
 
Good points one and all, however, I'm watching! I don't buy into the fantasy football stuff, I could care less about those other players and their stats. It's about STEELER FOOTBALL....If we win, I'm good with it. Go Steelers!!!
 
I remember when we would score a touchdown and my excitement would soar! Now after a touchdown I wait a moment or 2 to make sure there are no flags, it kind of takes some excitement away from a score and it pisses me off.
 
I mean even in the low scoring games there isnt the great D to drive emotion like tgere ised to be... drives dont stall because of great hits, tackes or plays on the ball its some holding call that stalls it or a chicken **** qb playing it safe all game and never trying for a big play on a third down, just one read and tossing it out of bounds or to a check down guy
 
I mean even in the low scoring games there isnt the great D to drive emotion like tgere ised to be... drives dont stall because of great hits, tackes or plays on the ball its some holding call that stalls it or a chicken **** qb playing it safe all game and never trying for a big play on a third down, just one read and tossing it out of bounds or to a check down guy

Yep QB's too afraid to throw a pick or have a low completion %
 
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You are absolutely right on the Thursday Night game pulling those ratings right back up there to the top. It's NOT just the ****** game match-ups but also the so MANY game stoppages of all kind. Thanks for the smile




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I guess watching Red Zone, it's not as big of a deal because you see the exciting moments from each game. I think the rules need simplified, penalties reduced and let the defense play, but I watch the 1 pm and 4 pm games. I'm not into the prime time games just because I don't like staying up late. SNF is alright and I'll catch some of that, but Thursday and Monday seem like overload right now.
 
Get rid of:
Instant replay...all of it
Showboating after every play
Looking for a flag after every incomplete pass
The rule allowing the qb to intentionally ground the ball.
Bring back real kickoffs and kickoff returns

About the only rule change I like is the two point conversion

Finally allow DBs to actually cover the receiver. Forget that 5 yard bs
 
Totally understand. But to be fair, I'm talking only about how watchable and exciting the games are. I know as people get married, have kids, get jobs, etc. they have less time for football. But that's a problem for the NFL every year since it's inception. In every industry that relies on people having some free time, they will lapse some customers due to growing out of the hobby, more life responsibilities, etc.

I'm talking about for those of us who are willing and able to watch. According to those articles, folks are tuning in then tuning out. It's people who want to watch the games, they're just bored of it once it starts. The talk has been quiet for the past few years but really starting to get louder and louder. I think it's becoming a legitimate problem for the NFL. Yes there are other factors (cord cutting, more entertainment options, some just growing up like this poster, boycotts for various political reasons, etc.) but a real, serious problem is that people who CAN and WANT to watch NFL football are just flat not entertained anymore by the games. College football does not have this problem. Refs aren't as flag happy, there are variations in offensive styles, QBs aren't just taking the safe routes every time, etc. Many reasons. It's super interesting to me and I think the NFL needs to immediately find ways to get the actual game play closer to the way it used to be. You can still get head shots out of the game while not flagging DB's for every minor tug and push. Let DB's play, give QB's incentive to throw the ball down the field, etc.

This post rings some truth and was kinda troubling to me around 2013/2014 ish when games lost "emotion".
This is my opinion for the die-hards is the on-field product is just basically neutered. Too much rules, apparent favoritism, etc.

Teams like the Steelers, Ravens, Seahawks are constantly flagged for physicality. The traditional aspect of the game is damn near dead.
The decline ratings are affecting us too.

:(

Goodell is killing America's sport
 
Start by getting rid of the Thursday games. Nobody wants them. The quality is garbage. At the bare minimum, they should limit the Thursday games. Only have Thursday games on weeks where there are byes so you can have 2 teams coming off a bye play on Thursday. Then you might have a good game.
 
I actually don't give a **** about the Steelers anymore. My son and wife watch the game and I sit there like a salty sarcastic prick making snide comments and bad jokes at team and a game I used to love to my core. Now, it's nothing more than an excuse to drink scotch...not that I need an excuse.

Unfortunately I feel the same way you do. Didn't miss a game for 30 years and now I haven't watched a game since last November. Do not ,make my weekends revolve around the Steelers anymore. The NFL is just blaaah for all the reasons listed in this thread.
 
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