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Is the New Orleans game Tomlin's Waterloo?

steelhurt said:
Ya know regardless of what today’s outcome is, whether we lose today and miss the playoffs or win out and get in and actually win a playoff game, something has changed for me.
I just do not feel the same with the Steelers as I have in the past. For starters I don’t feel the owner shares the same passion as his father and his father before him. With Art II it’s business and he’s not willing to make the hard changes when necessary and has become somewhat comfortable accepting mediocrity. Even his minority owners knew what needed to be done last year.
Then there’s the team’s identity which I have no idea what it is anymore. Gone are the days of the aggressive, intimidating defense replaced with something many years obsolete not able to create turnovers and hold leads.
And the offense great at times but seems to be a model of inconsistency committing far too many turnovers.
Then we have the lack of real team leaders like in past years and undisciplined players seemingly doing whatever they want.
A head coach who frankly has been an embarrassment and continues to do just enough to keep his job. A coach that should have been replaced after the embarrassing home playoff loss to the Jags last year. That was the time to start cleaning this mess up and yes, it’s his team of underachievers that most likely will be watching from home come playoffs. 2018 will go down as a total waste of a season but business will continue as always, a scapegoat here, a sacrifice there, but the cancer will remain and I will continue to grow further apart from my once beloved Steelers.

This is a lifelong job for Tomlin who will leave on his terms.




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Art II see's the Steelers as a corporate grab than an actual legacy.
Well that's what I feel at least.

I guess just the entire landscape of sports in general is becoming this way
 
Coach said:
I disagree. Every man has his boiling point, and the pot is getting hot. If the Steelers lose today and miss the playoffs, I think there is a 33% chance he's fired.
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And I disagree with you. Art 2 is gutless, it was Dan that steered them toward hiring Tomlin and Art 2 will stay the course as long as the suckers keep filing the seats and buying the merchandise. I include myself in that conclusion so not saying I'm not part of the problem. The irony is that Tomlin has coined the phrase "The standard is the standard " and yet he can't live up to it. Art 2 will be perfectly content to let the Steelers become the AFC's fools gold as long as it keeps him out of any controversy.

I heard Stephen A. Smith lay down the racial gauntlet on his show by saying something like " Really? Talking about Tomlin who has never had a losing season getting fired when Marvin Lewis still has a job..? As a black man I am deeply offended by this."

So now the "standard" for the Steelers is the Bengals. That's the corner the Steelers painted themselves into when they hired Tomlin. Still Art 2 can grow a pair and use THE STANDARD as the reason Tomlin has to go, not any Rooney Rule nonsense...I think most fans will understand. I agree with posters who say this team will probably never sniff another SB under Tomlin...hell I said it in 2010.
 
MT is almost Marvin Lewis 2.0. He at least gets to the playoffs once in awhile (although not this year from the looks of it). Mediocrity for years, just like ML. Time for a change.
 
Some of us have been saying that MT is not the real deal for years. Now I just sit back and watch yinz talk about it.
 
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Coach said:
Out of smoke! Tomlin is 3-5 in his last eight playoff games, 3-6 if you include the Super Bowl loss to the Packers. He has won a playoff game in just 4 of his 11 seasons, and most of those came early..
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This team needs a real head coach not a friend

Rooney is so ******* stupid, I bet dumbass doesnt realize this idiot shitbag is costing him wins and MONEY
 
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Waterloo. Dumb fake punt on 4th and long on our side of the field up 4 points?

Fire him!


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MTC said:
Art II see's the Steelers as a corporate grab than an actual legacy.
Well that's what I feel at least.

I guess just the entire landscape of sports in general is becoming this way
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PUSSIFIED. Not about the W, about the coin.


But, the Ravens have become the STEELERS and the Steelers have become *******.
 
Calm down he isn't going anywhere. JuJu will be the goat this week.
 
bye bye playoffs

too much talent on this team to be 8-6, cant make the playoffs with a ****** head coach
 
I'd pay $100.00 for a reporter to ask Art Rooney what he thought of the fake punt.
 
Actually that wasn't that bad of a call. You punt to Brees and he goes the length, milks the clock...game over. Now the Steelers D had been holding but they were switching schemes and tactics all through the game, Brees would go hurry up and score while using the clock, while we have communication/personnel breakdowns.

If Nix gets the first or Ju Ju doesn't fumble Steelers possibly get the TD and if not the FG. Too many young players on that D....I understand exactly why Tomlin went with that. Again not a Tomlin supporter and not saying I agree completely with it, but I get it the thinking behind it.
 
Keebs said:
Actually that wasn't that bad of a call. You punt to Brees and he goes the length, milks the clock...game over. Now the Steelers D had been holding but they were switching schemes and tactics all through the game, Brees would go hurry up and score while using the clock, while we have communication/personnel breakdowns.

If Nix gets the first or Ju Ju doesn't fumble Steelers possibly get the TD and if not the FG. Too many young players on that D....I understand exactly why Tomlin went with that. Again not a Tomlin supporter and not saying I agree completely with it, but I get it the thinking behind it.
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Wrong! Look if you want to go for it, go five wide with Ben on 4th down.

The fake punt was poorly disguised as a man was sent in motion, alerting the defense to watch for tricks. And the distance was too long.

An extra 40 yards from a punt would make it harder on the Saints. No guarantee they would be able to score a touchdown.
 
SDS will stop ******* sheep before Tomlin is fired.
 
Coach said:
Wrong! Look if you want to go for it, go five wide with Ben on 4th down.

The fake punt was poorly disguised as a man was sent in motion, alerting the defense to watch for tricks. And the distance was too long.

An extra 40 yards from a punt would make it harder on the Saints. No guarantee they would be able to score a touchdown.
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Then that's on special teams coaching because from a strategic point of view it makes sense, again not saying I agree completely but I understand the strategy. Going for it 5 wide on fourth with that crowd...don't know about that.
 
Coach said:
Wrong! Look if you want to go for it, go five wide with Ben on 4th down.

The fake punt was poorly disguised as a man was sent in motion, alerting the defense to watch for tricks. And the distance was too long.

An extra 40 yards from a punt would make it harder on the Saints. No guarantee they would be able to score a touchdown.
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I get it but too many young players in our secondary and Brees was going to cause breakdowns while draining the clock. We'll never know.
 
Keebs said:
I get it but too many young players in our secondary and Brees was going to cause breakdowns while draining the clock. We'll never know.
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4th and 5 is not easy to covert on a fake punt with a run with your FB up the middle. The math says it was a bad call.

Ben passing would have been more logical. Or punting it and pushing New Orleans back 40 more yards when they need a touchdown, you never know.
 
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