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Coryea

Coryea

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their defense was cheating just as much as the offense or coaching matters alot.
Found these on Twitter and thought they were pretty interesting:

-Playoff wins since 2001 with < 78.5 passer rating on 33+ attempts:

Tom Brady:

9-4 (69.2%)

Every other QB combined:

9-72 (11.1%)

Playoff W-L record when throwing more INT's than TD's since 2001 (min. 33 attempts):

Tom Brady:

6-4 (60.0%)

Every other QB combined:

4-51 (7.3%)

Playoff W-L record since 2001 with a passer rating < 86.5 on 25+ attempts:

Tom Brady:

11-6 (64.7%)

Every other QB combined:

39-112 (25.8%)

Career playoff W-L record with a passer rating < 78.5 on 25+ attempts:

Tom Brady:

10-4 (71.4%)

Every other QB in NFL history:

89-307 (22.5%)

This was Brady's fifth postseason game without a touchdown pass. The Patriots' record in those five games is 5-0.


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Everyone knows exactly what those mean. It means the pats**** have never stopped cheating. It means that Godofall destroyed the evidence and they went out and started cheating again. I don't think for a second they turned everything over anyway.
 
Pretty simple math and help me out here.................................... for the NOT cheating / fixed crowd, give me a legitimate detailed explaination???.............................




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Drink IRON City said:
Pretty simple math and help me out here.................................... for the NOT cheating / fixed crowd, give me a legitimate detailed explaination???.............................


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Bill(and Ernie) are either football gods or cheaters.
 
I'd also like to see their record for challenges that were successful/overturned VS the league %.
 
Maybe I just can’t see because I’m on the mobile app, but can you break down what each of these comparisons are?

Either way, sounds like they’re ******* cheating. I will never believe they are just always a step ahead of opposing offenses during playoff time because they’re just really smart. Always. Every time. Somebody study what Pederson did differently last year. Did they run a completely different offense than what they practiced or had in a printed playbook all week or something?


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Does anyone remember the fumble / turn over ratio of the cheatriots before the "deflategate"??? It was astronomically safe for cheatriots VS average for rest of NFL............ These things contribute to cheaters greatness. How no one in the front offices / owners / can't see this is incredible but they are making a lot of money and it would be a catch 22 if something was done about it as it would show cheating and outcome costing meg-A bucks downfall.




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Coach said:
A bit of both. Brady when needed is clutch.


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Coach, I don't know if you can say that UNLESS all helmet whisper / cheating **** is eliminated and then see what he has over the course of a season. He won't be as clutch as you think. Wasn't he quoted as say " it's easy if you know the answers"




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They're a gimmick. Nobody is that good for that long without dubious clandestine help. NOBODY.

If you just look at the defensive magic they work with nobodies you have to conclude they're bullshit. Magic super coaching my ***. They've had some great minds over the many years of the NFL. Great defensive minds. Great offensive minds. All went poof.

The pats****** are bullshit.

It's clear as day.
 
Coryea said:
their defense was cheating just as much as the offense or coaching matters alot.
Found these on Twitter and thought they were pretty interesting:

-Playoff wins since 2001 with < 78.5 passer rating on 33+ attempts:

Tom Brady:

9-4 (69.2%)

Every other QB combined:

9-72 (11.1%)

Playoff W-L record when throwing more INT's than TD's since 2001 (min. 33 attempts):

Tom Brady:

6-4 (60.0%)

Every other QB combined:

4-51 (7.3%)

Playoff W-L record since 2001 with a passer rating < 86.5 on 25+ attempts:

Tom Brady:

11-6 (64.7%)

Every other QB combined:

39-112 (25.8%)

Career playoff W-L record with a passer rating < 78.5 on 25+ attempts:

Tom Brady:

10-4 (71.4%)

Every other QB in NFL history:

89-307 (22.5%)

This was Brady's fifth postseason game without a touchdown pass. The Patriots' record in those five games is 5-0.


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I'll take a stab at what it means.


Who were the best teams since the AFL / NFL Merger?


The 1960's Packers
The 1970's Steelers
The 1980's 49ers
The 1990's Cowboys
The 2000's Patriots.


While the rule sets have changed, one thing remains the same. ALL of these teams have a hall of fame quarterback and hall of fame head coach


Darth Hoodie put his team in the best position to win on offense and defense. His team seldom makes mistakes. He is a master at taking away what a team does best and confusing them. If needed he can handle divas. Tom Brady takes care of the rest. Do the Patriots cheat? Absolutely. Are they lucky with calls? Yes. Even if you took away 2 super bowls for cheating and lucky calls by the officials, they still win four super bowls. One can not deny they have the talent where it is needed most.


Odds are they will win another Superbowl. The question remains, what the heck is Art Rooney II going to do about it
 
Coach said:
I'll take a stab at what it means.


Who were the best teams since the AFL / NFL Merger?


The 1960's Packers
The 1970's Steelers
The 1980's 49ers
The 1990's Cowboys
The 2000's Patriots.


While the rule sets have changed, one thing remains the same. ALL of these teams have a hall of fame quarterback and hall of fame head coach


Darth Hoodie put his team in the best position to win on offense and defense. His team seldom makes mistakes. He is a master at taking away what a team does best and confusing them. If needed he can handle divas. Tom Brady takes care of the rest. Do the Patriots cheat? Absolutely. Are they lucky with calls? Yes. Even if you took away 2 super bowls for cheating and lucky calls by the officials, they still win four super bowls. One can not deny they have the talent where it is needed most.


Odds are they will win another Superbowl. The question remains, what the heck is Art Rooney II going to do about it
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"One can not deny they have the talent where it is needed most"
Yeah in Cameras and electronic surveillance.
 
Coach said:
I'll take a stab at what it means.


Who were the best teams since the AFL / NFL Merger?


The 1960's Packers
The 1970's Steelers
The 1980's 49ers
The 1990's Cowboys
The 2000's Patriots.


While the rule sets have changed, one thing remains the same. ALL of these teams have a hall of fame quarterback and hall of fame head coach


Darth Hoodie put his team in the best position to win on offense and defense. His team seldom makes mistakes. He is a master at taking away what a team does best and confusing them. If needed he can handle divas. Tom Brady takes care of the rest. Do the Patriots cheat? Absolutely. Are they lucky with calls? Yes. Even if you took away 2 super bowls for cheating and lucky calls by the officials, they still win four super bowls. One can not deny they have the talent where it is needed most.


Odds are they will win another Superbowl. The question remains, what the heck is Art Rooney II going to do about it
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Why stop at taking away 2? If you’re accepting the premise they cheat, there is no way to quantify the amount of wins they’ve stolen that way. How many Super Bowls they got to because they waltzed into the second round because they stole regular season games to get the bye, etc. Basically if they’ve been cheating the whole time, none of it counts. Period full stop


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Drink IRON City said:
Pretty simple math and help me out here.................................... for the NOT cheating / fixed crowd, give me a legitimate detailed explaination???.............................




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No, a captain picard facepalm .gif is all you will get.
 
greenleader said:
No, a captain picard facepalm .gif is all you will get.
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I've seen those and am amazed at how little that explanation equates too. There is NO legitimate explaination. Picard would run it through DATA and still get...........no answer (face-Palm).



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AggieSteel said:
Why stop at taking away 2? If you’re accepting the premise they cheat, there is no way to quantify the amount of wins they’ve stolen that way. How many Super Bowls they got to because they waltzed into the second round because they stole regular season games to get the bye, etc. Basically if they’ve been cheating the whole time, none of it counts. Period full stop


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Yes, they do cheat. And they have been caught before, but when the cheating equals a speeding ticket, keep doing it if you get the super bowl. This is on the Roger Goodell, who burned the video of the Patriots illegal taping the Rams practices for the super bowl. As I said, I think the cheating a lucky calls * ( Tuck rule, BS, that was a fumble ) in the playoffs gave them TWO super bowls. They have enough talent to win FOUR without the cheating.


Darth Hoodie is that good. He actually knows all the referees, and their tendencies to flag certain penalties and builds part of his play calling around that...knowing what he's likely to get away with. That is not cheating, that is being smart.


He is the Sun Tzu of coaching. Jimmy Johnson, who runs an offseason private coaching clinic for current NFL coaches thinks he's the best ever.


If you really want to know and stop reading as the truth will hurt, Hoddie helped Cowher out in the AFC Championship game vs the Broncos, asking his old friend what do you want to know about them? How much this helped is an unknown guess, but we did win the game.
 
Please.....

You admit they cheat but praise the way they do it? They’ve been caught taping signals/plays on numerous occasions. Were told to stop on two occasions. Then fined on both occasions. Yes the punishment is on the commissioner, as was the destruction of evidence, which wasn’t just the Rams. It included multiple games servers years prior INCLUDING the 2001 playoffs and subsequent seasons that provided unfair competitive advantages. If it didn’t then why were they investigated, twice, and found in violation?

Belichick knowingly broke the rules of fair play and was fined for it. Sorry, that doesn’t make him good. All the records, all the accolades are just revisionist attempts to whitewash the fact that he chose not to win in the confines of the rules. The only thing he regrets is being caught, but that gave him another challenge to overcome.


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Coaches disseminate information about teams all the time, since the sport began. Cowher and Marty did frequently, as did Parcells and Belichick. It isn’t new amongst the coaching circles.


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Ike Kelly said:
Please.....

You admit they cheat but praise the way they do it? They’ve been caught taping signals/plays on numerous occasions. Were told to stop on two occasions. Then fined on both occasions. Yes the punishment is on the commissioner, as was the destruction of evidence, which wasn’t just the Rams. It included multiple games servers years prior INCLUDING the 2001 playoffs and subsequent seasons that provided unfair competitive advantages. If it didn’t then why were they investigated, twice, and found in violation?

Belichick knowingly broke the rules of fair play and was fined for it. Sorry, that doesn’t make him good. All the records, all the accolades are just revisionist attempts to whitewash the fact that he chose not to win in the confines of the rules. The only thing he regrets is being caught, but that gave him another challenge to overcome.


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EXCELLENT post . It took an amazing amount of video & technology to not just video the games but record the verbal from QB, hand signals from coaches (including false signals) and then to actually sinc them up to game time film / signal / audio......... If it wasn't an advantage why go through all this trouble????? What it all comes down to is being able for Ernie to memorize teams signals / intended signals and in real game time (up in the booth ) spy signals and interpret into the play being called. I know this is a "simpleton" explaination but you get my drift. Regardless it is still cheating for an unfair advantage so I can ONLY congratulate any of the cheateriots for just that, the AWESOME cheating.






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slashsteel said:
No way that coach should be still employed, and there is no way that team doesn't still cheat. it is mind blowing that this is still allowed to continue. SMH
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It's a disgrace that the NFL allowed him to continue in the game and it's also a disgrace that so many sportscasters heap praise on a disgraced organization.

If this was the NCAA, they'd have stripped them of all their titles and banned them from the post season for years.
 
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