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Though if the Ron Cook story about him running the wrong routes intentionally is true, **** him.
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AB had a GREAT year! Sorry for the those complaining about him. The dude lit it up all year even when being double and triple teamed because we had no one opposite him that could catch the ball. Check your bitching at the door and shut up because you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
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AB isn't going anywhere. We lost season over. Does the looseness of the cannon need work, hell yes. It would be great if these "players" could accept responsibility of themselves but that isn't going to happen, thus we hold the babysitter accountable. I know a lot of 16 year old kids that have more accountability to themselves than many on the STEELERS team.
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I don't think anyone here said he's not great, but if he's running wrong routes on purpose because he's not getting the ball, how can any Steelers fan back him?
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Yeah since Ron Cook is always right.
It's pretty clear you have a hard on for AB. This team goes no where without him next year.
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And how does anyone know he ran the wrong route on purpose? That's purely conjecture on Cooks part.
Haha no if I had a hard on for AB, I'd start posts like this one!
Ron Cook doesn't make **** up to get a rise or cause a stir, so you guys are saying after being in the NFL 7 seasons AB dies not know his routes????
It's funny that when Chad Johnson was getting pissy because he wasn't getting the ball enough when Cincy was winning back in the 2000's everyone here jumped on him and Bengal fans about him bitching after a win, well Brown has done that on at least two occasions, and now he's pouting and he's taking it on the field with him and screwinf the team, but that's fine because it's AB??
I guess I don't get it, we moved on from Burress, Holmes, ward, Wallace, we'll move on from AB too.
So you guys want to pay him the 15-17 million per, with 40 guaranteed?
Why isn't ok to say Brown is a great player, but an immature douche?
Please show me where he ran the wrong routes in protest. You don't think Ben would've been visibly pissed off? He always is bitching at receivers. And when didn't AB get the ball enough down the stretch? You think that when they all watch film that the players would just let it go that he was running the wrong routes? There were no instances where Ben threw at AB and he went the wrong way or anything of that nature. But okay, I'm sure Ron Cook pulled out his playbook and stole the play call sheets from the coaches so he could cross reference.
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That's the point, the only way Cook knows this is if someone told him. Ron Cook likes AB, calls him the best wr in the NFL, this isn't something he'd write if he wasn't sure it happened, that's one hell of an accusation.
I can't show you because I don't have the playbook or coaches game film.
The play that ended the KC game basically, everyone credits Haley for getting Ben out of the pocket, but Ben had to hold the ball and scramble right because AB was supposed to run across the face of the LB, instead he ran behind him forcing Ben to hold the ball longer, now it all worked out AB made the catch and we won. What if Ben gets sacked there waiting for AB to clear the LB, Ben is getting killed on here and everywhere else.
I can't show you because I don't have the playbook or coaches game film.
The play that ended the KC game basically, everyone credits Haley for getting Ben out of the pocket, but Ben had to hold the ball and scramble right because AB was supposed to run across the face of the LB, instead he ran behind him forcing Ben to hold the ball longer, now it all worked out AB made the catch and we won. What if Ben gets sacked there waiting for AB to clear the LB, Ben is getting killed on here and everywhere else.
It was incredibly reckless of Cook to throw in that one-liner ("hey maybe Brown sometimes runs the wrong route on purpose") without any evidence or substantiation. It destroys the rest of the article. That sort of baseless speculation is the kind of crap one would expect to find on an internet message board but not the Post-Gazette. Although the sports page of the PPG is really starting to drift into tabloid territory.
Yikes, there is so much wrong with this post I don't know where to start. You've obviously found exactly what you've been needing: supporting "evidence" that allows Big Ben to remain 100% infallible and the blame for any lack of perfection to be shifted elsewhere. It's what you do: your favorite players are always perfect and blameless. It's a weird way for a grown man to look at the world, but we all have issues.
Because that's grown up talk.
Not as weird as a grown man (yourself) following another grown man around on a message board telling me how I look at the world.
How am I shifting the blame from anyone? So you're telling me if Ben takes a sack there waiting for AB to clear the LB, you wouldn't be bitching about Ben holding the ball? It's a simple question, try not to beat around the bush and answer it, or you can ignore it and tell me how I see the world? It's one play.
Do you need me to go back over the season and tell you the ****** plays Ben made, will that make your day?
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I can easily believe AB occasionally gets lazy in his route running. I have little doubt about that. In fact, I'd be surprised with all the double coverage and the near certain knowledge that he's not going to see the ball that he doesn't sometimes "round the corner" here and there.
But I would be shocked to find that Brown intentionally ran the "wrong" route. He may see something mid route that he interprets as an opportunity for himself and for Ben. Hell, 1/4 of Ben's career is **** just happening... Why would it be weird for a guy who's not really in the play anyway to go out and create something?
But I refuse to believe that Brown would purposefully sabotage a play just to be a *****. I can't believe that.
But I would be shocked to find that Brown intentionally ran the "wrong" route. He may see something mid route that he interprets as an opportunity for himself and for Ben. Hell, 1/4 of Ben's career is **** just happening... Why would it be weird for a guy who's not really in the play anyway to go out and create something?
But I refuse to believe that Brown would purposefully sabotage a play just to be a *****. I can't believe that.
Yet you still have not disputed one thing that he said in that post. You teach high school WR, RB, and TE to cross the face of the defender so you do not make it easy for the defender to jump the route or get the inside release on the ball. The end of the KC game was a prime example of something good coming from something bad. Ben rolled out only after he received pressure from holding onto the ball. It was not a designed roll out play. Why did he have to hold the ball...because he had to wait to get separation after he went behind the LB in coverage. Had he crossed the face it is a quick timing throw and a TD.
You guys are both wrong. AB didn't do anything wrong on that play. It was a case of the Chiefs running a defense that they did not expect to see in that situation, and both Ben & AB reacting appropriately. No one wearing black and gold expected the Chiefs to opt for that kind of zone defense including dropping Justin Houston in coverage.
We seem not to expect very much
How in the hell is AB supposed to cross in from of Houston? Should he pray that he fits in between Houston and first down marker? Houston isn't a dumbass he was standing on the first down line so that he could try to keep the play in front of him and stop anything short of the first down. AB had to get deeper if he wanted to gain the first down.
Yes. What's more likely: AB is sabotaging the team he is expecting / hoping will make him NFL's highest-paid WR in a few months time or a newspaper columnist throwing some **** at the wall?
Go back and read the article, people: the part about AB deliberately doing something wrong is basically a throwaway line. It's Cook thinking out loud. There is nothing to support it at all.