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Hue Jackson fired!

It was pretty clear from hard knocks that Hue is a terrible head coach. Whenever they showed meetings with his staff it was obvious that Haley and others wanted to push players more in practice and try some different things but Hue shut them down.

He also seemed very threatened by Haley. He should have been. Hue is allegedly a great offensive coach and they brough in a new big name coordinator with head coach experience. Reports are that Hue was meddling in the offense.

It’s obvious that they tanked last year so i could see giving Hue another chance with a rebuild squad but this year is a stinker too. I never bought the hype that the browns were a playoff team this year but they have too much talent to be this bad.

They looked competitive early while most teams in the league were playing bad football due to lack of practice. Now that teams are playing better, the browns are getting worse.
 
Haley being fired makes me think Mayfield and his agent are major players in these moves. Why fire Haley so soon unless they asked Baker and he gave a thumbs down. Either that or Al Saunders stabbed them in the back.
 
Browns should go after Nick Saban. Before you think that’s crazy, here’s why. Saban is an old school football historian type. He went to Kent State and his dad coached for the Browns. Browns are his home team. He scheduled Bama to play Kent State to honor that.

It also has to eat at him a bit that he failed in the NFL. He may be looking at Pete Carroll who failed in the NFL then went to college then back to the NFL.

Saban is in his 60s and probably only has a few years left of coaching. He may want one last challenge to prove he is a great coach and not just a guy who needs a stacked talent advantage.

The browns do have the core to get good quickly, especially if Mayfield is the real deal. If you like Mayfield, then the browns is a great job, especially if you think Big Ben will retire within the next few years.

Taking over his dad’s old team and winning a Super Bowl in Cleveland could be a challenge he can’t refuse. Unless his wife says No. And i hear his wife loves being the Queen of Tuscaloosa.
 
CBS is saying that Williams is the interim head coach.
 
Steelerfan81 said:
:Last six Browns coaches have been tired following the Steelers/Browns second match up of the season.
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It's so bad it's funny. Even when things were looking up for them this season, it ends up being factory of sadness once again.
 
Steelerfan81 said:
:Last six Browns coaches have been tired following the Steelers/Browns second match up of the season.
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This is unreal. Unbreakable statistic right here.

Sarge said:
I read that Hue’s career winning pct is 218th out of 219 NFL coaches in NFL history. Stunned they didn’t hang on to him.
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Only coach worse was Bert Bell, who was also the Eagles owner.
 
mr peeples said:
It's so bad it's funny. Even when things were looking up for them this season, it ends up being factory of sadness once again.
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Bad ownership trademark...

i believe since the Browns came back after being stolen by Baltimore they have had more:

Owners
Tem Presidents
GMs
Coaches
Coordinators
QBs
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Browns should go after Nick Saban. Before you think that’s crazy, here’s why. Saban is an old school football historian type. He went to Kent State and his dad coached for the Browns. Browns are his home team. He scheduled Bama to play Kent State to honor that.

It also has to eat at him a bit that he failed in the NFL. He may be looking at Pete Carroll who failed in the NFL then went to college then back to the NFL.

Saban is in his 60s and probably only has a few years left of coaching. He may want one last challenge to prove he is a great coach and not just a guy who needs a stacked talent advantage.

The browns do have the core to get good quickly, especially if Mayfield is the real deal. If you like Mayfield, then the browns is a great job, especially if you think Big Ben will retire within the next few years.

Taking over his dad’s old team and winning a Super Bowl in Cleveland could be a challenge he can’t refuse. Unless his wife says No. And i hear his wife loves being the Queen of Tuscaloosa.
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IMHO there is absolutely no way Saban goes to the clowns. You do not work your entire life to gain a reputation and sully it by take a horrible job with horrible administration and a horrible owner. Saban isn't that ******* stupid. He isn't some NFL DC or OC that is just trying to get ahead. He's a legendary college coach and I don't think the clowns job is going to be that appealing.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Browns should go after Nick Saban. Before you think that’s crazy, here’s why. Saban is an old school football historian type. He went to Kent State and his dad coached for the Browns. Browns are his home team. He scheduled Bama to play Kent State to honor that.

It also has to eat at him a bit that he failed in the NFL. He may be looking at Pete Carroll who failed in the NFL then went to college then back to the NFL.

Saban is in his 60s and probably only has a few years left of coaching. He may want one last challenge to prove he is a great coach and not just a guy who needs a stacked talent advantage.

The browns do have the core to get good quickly, especially if Mayfield is the real deal. If you like Mayfield, then the browns is a great job, especially if you think Big Ben will retire within the next few years.

Taking over his dad’s old team and winning a Super Bowl in Cleveland could be a challenge he can’t refuse. Unless his wife says No. And i hear his wife loves being the Queen of Tuscaloosa.
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Tape,

Might need to verify your sources, but Nick Sr (he went by Lou) never coached at the professional or collegiate level that I’m aware of on a personal level. Lou owned a gas station in Monongah, WV on Rt 218 near Fairmont and Carolina/Idamay. He started the youth football/baseball programs near Fairmont. His Pop Warner Teams (Idamay Diamonds) were awesome. Undefeated 3-4 years in a row. One championship year, he beat a team with kid Joe Montana as its QB. I know this as my parents and my mother’s family personally knew Lou, his wife and family. Heck everyone knew him and my brothers and cousins actually played on the same teams as Nick Jr. did. Nobody called him Nick Jr, he was always called by his nickname “Brother” some reason.

Anyway, Nick Jr, went to Kent State instead of Morgantown because Lou wanted him to experience things away from the mining towns. Those towns were rough, and times hard. To my knowledge Nick Sr. never coached for the Browns, or any semi pro or college team. I don’t ever recall hearing Cleveland as the Saban’s hometown team, but I am several years younger than Nick. Sam Huff was from Farmington, WV a few miles from Fairmont, and he was hyped as he played for Morgantown and then went pro. A lot of folks in that area were Giants fans or Redskins fans because he was from the mining towns. The Steelers, obviously, were perennially terrible at that time, hence no fan base.

There was another “Lou Saban” (related, cousin to Nick Sr.) who played for the Browns and actually coached for the Bills a couple times. Possibly you mixing the two together?


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Sarge said:
I read that Hue’s career winning pct is 218th out of 219 NFL coaches in NFL history. Stunned they didn’t hang on to him.
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The only coach who was worse was Bert Bell, who led the Eagles to a record of 10-46-2 (.179) from 1936 to 1941. And Bell couldn’t be fired because he was also the owner of the Eagles.
 
Vader said:
IMHO there is absolutely no way Saban goes to the clowns. You do not work your entire life to gain a reputation and sully it by take a horrible job with horrible administration and a horrible owner. Saban isn't that ******* stupid. He isn't some NFL DC or OC that is just trying to get ahead. He's a legendary college coach and I don't think the clowns job is going to be that appealing.
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There are loads of examples of players and coaches putting their legacies on the line for a last challenge. Gruden is doing it right now for the Raiders. He has his ring. He's generally regarded as a very good coach. He could have had that Monday Night gig forever. He was itching for the challenge again.

Pete Carroll took a risk going to Seattle from USC. Things fell apart at USC but he could have done TV for a year and then picked his college job. With his USC success he would have recruited a ton and turned any college team into a winner.

Plenty of college coaches have risked legacies to prove themselves in the NFL. Chip Kelly left Oregon. Lou Hotz tried his hand at the NFL. Bill Walsh came back to coach at Stanford.

Jimmy Johnson left Miami at the height of their dominance for the awful cowboys. Spurrier did the same leaving Florida for the Redskins. They are probably the best analogy to Saban.

I doubt he'd take it, but it's not crazy. He'd surely get full GM control. They have a good OL. Good RBs. Possible great TE. Defense has a stud pass rusher, Denzel Ward looks like he'll be a very good cover CB. As i said, if you think Mayfield is good then the Browns is a great job. Only a few players away. Look at how fast the Rams went from dumpster fire to great with the development of Goff and some good coaching.
 
No way Saban leaves Bama for Cleveland . He is in the process of becoming the greatest head coach in college history, he makes 11 million a year and at his age why put up with the idiot pro players who care about money and fame more than the game ? he controls everything at Bama and he will never leave for the NFL at his age, he is 67 in two days.
 
Ike Kelly said:
Tape,

Might need to verify your sources, but Nick Sr (he went by Lou) never coached at the professional or collegiate level that I’m aware of on a personal level. Lou owned a gas station in Monongah, WV on Rt 218 near Fairmont and Carolina/Idamay. He started the youth football/baseball programs near Fairmont. His Pop Warner Teams (Idamay Diamonds) were awesome. Undefeated 3-4 years in a row. One championship year, he beat a team with kid Joe Montana as its QB. I know this as my parents and my mother’s family personally knew Lou, his wife and family. Heck everyone knew him and my brothers and cousins actually played on the same teams as Nick Jr. did. Nobody called him Nick Jr, he was always called by his nickname “Brother” some reason.

Anyway, Nick Jr, went to Kent State instead of Morgantown because Lou wanted him to experience things away from the mining towns. Those towns were rough, and times hard. To my knowledge Nick Sr. never coached for the Browns, or any semi pro or college team. I don’t ever recall hearing Cleveland as the Saban’s hometown team, but I am several years younger than Nick. Sam Huff was from Farmington, WV a few miles from Fairmont, and he was hyped as he played for Morgantown and then went pro. A lot of folks in that area were Giants fans or Redskins fans because he was from the mining towns. The Steelers, obviously, were perennially terrible at that time, hence no fan base.

There was another “Lou Saban” (related, cousin to Nick Sr.) who played for the Browns and actually coached for the Bills a couple times. Possibly you mixing the two together?


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yes, i did think the browns Lou Saban was his father, Nick does still have ties though from Kent State and a short stint as head coach at Toledo before leaving to be the Browns DC under Belichick.
 
Nick Saban Sr, owned a gas station and died at age 46, he never coached in college or the pros.
 
Steelers12 said:
No way Saban leaves Bama for Cleveland . He is in the process of becoming the greatest head coach in college history, he makes 11 million a year and at his age why put up with the idiot pro players who care about money and fame more than the game ? he controls everything at Bama and he will never leave for the NFL at his age, he is 67 in two days.
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Saban has nothing more to accomplish in college. As you said, he's 67. He may only be planning to coach 5 or so more years. Just enough time for one last challenge,

If Saban won a Super Bowl with the browns, it would do far more for his coaching legend than if he wins another 2 or 3 at Bama.

Great players, coaches, movie stars, billionaires, they don't think like normal people. Not to get political but look at Trump. He didn't think of a downside of running for Prez. He thought he was going to win. That's how highly successful people think.

Besides, Saban has done this before. He built up LSU from nothing to champions. He could have simply stayed there and won like he's doing at Bama. But he left for the Dolphins and the challenge of the NFL.

I guarantee you that it eats at him that he's seen as an NFL failure. As i said, probably wouldn't happen. But if i was the browns i would make it awfully tempting.
 
The NFL is a young man's game, Saban will not be able to come into the league especially with the Browns and make a dent, his time for the NFL has passed. If this was 10 years or even 5 years ago I think Saban might jump but he is an older man in a perfect situation. You think his wife wants to leave his j=huge house on the lake in Alabama to live in Cleveland, lMFAO.
 
The Browns have tried everything. They've hired a college coach. They've hired retreads. They hired a guy off the Patriots staff. They've hired assistants. None of it has worked.
 
Steelers12 said:
No way Saban leaves Bama for Cleveland . He is in the process of becoming the greatest head coach in college history, he makes 11 million a year and at his age why put up with the idiot pro players who care about money and fame more than the game ? he controls everything at Bama and he will never leave for the NFL at his age, he is 67 in two days.
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And he's insanely successful (like you said), like on the order of best ever. Why leave that? He can probably nab 2-3 more titles.
 
CNN is reporting that Hue Jackson's firing is Trump's fault.
 
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