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Define the difference between a bye week and resting players please? How exactly is that different?
There are tons of books explaining the myth of sports momentum. All the objective facts back it is a figment of a fans imagination stemming from confirmation bias. Its no different than lucky sports rituals.
The objective fact is that outside of week 1, teams with two weeks or more of rest win roughly 60% or more of the time, depending on the timeframe selected...
look up stats for post bye week wins or post playoff bye wins or teams that rest players in the final week vs teams that dont...
Now there absolutely is a too much time off scenario, but a week or two never statistically affects the rust level of a team...
If the cleveland game ends up being unimportant to the divisional victory and we have no path to the 3rd seed, then we should rest injured and essential players
Same if we clinch before the Ravens game. We shouldnt play guys in that game
***-toot point there dude...
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Sorry man, I tend to be a realist. I'll leave the make believe to the media.
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Are you kidding? You really think a bye week, and resting players randomly out of some hope and prayer that it will give your players enough of an edge in the playoffs, is one and the same? One is a planned break, known well ahead of time, structured in a way to maximize both rest and preparation for the remainder of the season, the entire team on the same schedule. The other is short-term decision that a coach makes with the hope that his guys will have an advantage in their playoff performance, sacrificing continuity to be able to do so, often being a handful of guys here and there, but not the entire starting offense/defense. Unless the team is already one of the top-shelf teams in the league, it's almost always a regrettable decision. Middling teams like the Steelers benefit FAR more from continuing to play their ***** off like the season is on the line each week and staying well within their routines, than being given a single game of "rest" because by golly, once mason mccormick and isaac seumalo and patrick queen get that week off, look out rest of the AFC playoff teams, you're in for it now!
Pro athletes, like most people, prefer predictability, routine, not random changes to their week-to-week approach, especially when they're not hands-down the best at their craft in the league. One week is not enough to allow guys adequate time to heal their battered bodies enough to where it would make an appreciable difference. If anything, giving guys the week off after they've clinched the #1 seed, especially early, is more of a reward for their reg season accomplishment than some hope, wish and prayer that they come into the playoffs rejuvenated as if it's mid-September.
"Tons of books" on momentum, mad says! By experts on momentum, no doubt lol. Nobody cares about what Dr Joyce Brothers said 60 years ago in some irrelevant book which everyone has either forgotten about or never knew existed, professor. Tell the 2005 Steelers about how momentum is a myth. Tell the 2007 New York Giants about how momentum is a myth. You'd have to be a grade-A rube to buy into such a ridiculous notion. Did you just start watching football last month or something?
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Are you kidding? You really think a bye week, and resting players randomly out of some hope and prayer that it will give your players enough of an edge in the playoffs, is one and the same? One is a planned break, known well ahead of time, structured in a way to maximize both rest and preparation for the remainder of the season, the entire team on the same schedule. The other is short-term decision that a coach makes with the hope that his guys will have an advantage in their playoff performance, sacrificing continuity to be able to do so, often being a handful of guys here and there, but not the entire starting offense/defense. Unless the team is already one of the top-shelf teams in the league, it's almost always a regrettable decision. Middling teams like the Steelers benefit FAR more from continuing to play their ***** off like the season is on the line each week and staying well within their routines, than being given a single game of "rest" because by golly, once mason mccormick and isaac seumalo and patrick queen get that week off, look out rest of the AFC playoff teams, you're in for it now!
Pro athletes, like most people, prefer predictability, routine, not random changes to their week-to-week approach, especially when they're not hands-down the best at their craft in the league. One week is not enough to allow guys adequate time to heal their battered bodies enough to where it would make an appreciable difference. If anything, giving guys the week off after they've clinched the #1 seed, especially early, is more of a reward for their reg season accomplishment than some hope, wish and prayer that they come into the playoffs rejuvenated as if it's mid-September.
Read that. Its a middle of the road piece that explains the argument well.
Momentum, particularly momentum from one game to another is complete bunk. Strategic and personnel changes or a drop in competition levels explain hot streaks away.
Coming from a gambling industry background, its beliefs in these things like "momentum" " hot streaks" and " due" that causes many a gambler to delude themselves into bankruptcy...
As for the resting players thing, i dont know what to tell you... there are mounds of factual stats backing up its effectiveness... there has been some debate about " rust" but that pertains to teams having multiple weeks of downtime because they clinch early...
Resting players in meaningless games is an accepted and well proven strategy.
bunk
"nonsense," 1900, short for bunkum, phonetic spelling of Buncombe, a county in North Carolina. The usual story (attested by 1841) of its origin is this: At the close of the protracted Missouri statehood debates in the U.S. Congress, supposedly on Feb. 25, 1820, North Carolina Rep. Felix Walker (1753-1828) began what promised to be a "long, dull, irrelevant speech," and he resisted calls to cut it short by saying he was bound to say something that could appear in the newspapers in the home district and prove he was on the job. "I shall not be speaking to the House," he confessed, "but to Buncombe." Thus Bunkum has been American English slang for "nonsense" since 1841 (it is attested from 1838 as generic for "a U.S. Representative's home district").showing our age.....
A. I feel like I was born in 1841 sometimesbunk
"nonsense," 1900, short for bunkum, phonetic spelling of Buncombe, a county in North Carolina. The usual story (attested by 1841) of its origin is this: At the close of the protracted Missouri statehood debates in the U.S. Congress, supposedly on Feb. 25, 1820, North Carolina Rep. Felix Walker (1753-1828) began what promised to be a "long, dull, irrelevant speech," and he resisted calls to cut it short by saying he was bound to say something that could appear in the newspapers in the home district and prove he was on the job. "I shall not be speaking to the House," he confessed, "but to Buncombe." Thus Bunkum has been American English slang for "nonsense" since 1841 (it is attested from 1838 as generic for "a U.S. Representative's home district").
showing our age.....
B. Its cold and snowy... i am absolutely doing the cranky old man thing
I'm okay with resting injured players against Cleveland in best case scenarios, but no way do you rest healthy players 2 weeks in a row. It's just not conducive to winning football. If they clinch in week 17 then rest key guys in week 18.
Sounds cool. But it's not true. Getting hot at the right time has proven to produce champions.
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If you’ve ever been on the sidelines momentum is definitely real. A very powerful thing indeed.
Not so much of a thing week to week, that is more of a growing confidence edge than momentum…but within a game momentum swings are 100% a very real and important part of the game.
Not so much of a thing week to week, that is more of a growing confidence edge than momentum…but within a game momentum swings are 100% a very real and important part of the game.