Hillary Clinton vs Bernie Sanders

[Coach]

For some reason I think this isn't getting enough press. A theory of mine is Clinton has been bought, and sold too many times, and the money behind her also has strings to pull with the mainstream television.

All the attention is on Trump, but hardly a peep in the news about Sanders being a real threat? Hmmmm…

It just got real.


Poll: Bernie Sanders surges ahead of Hillary Clinton in N.H., 44-37

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...s_surges_ahead_of_hillary_clinton_in_nh_44_37


In addition Sanders is drawing the larger crowds to hear him speak...which are the most likely voters.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...should-make-hillary-clinton-a-little-jittery/

 

[Spike]

Dems are getting nervous

http://steelernation.com/showthread.php?4588-The-Official-Bash-Hillary-Thread&p=145891#post145891

 

[21STEELERS21]

He isn't a real threat. NH is meaningless.

 

[Rod Farva]

Dems are getting nervous

http://steelernation.com/showthread.php?4588-The-Official-Bash-Hillary-Thread&p=145891#post145891

****.....I'm getting nervous. I could see the R's ******* this up and getting Sanders elected.

 

[GRBman]

He isn't a real threat. NH is meaningless.

Except that at this point in 2007, Barack Obama wasn't a real threat either. Obama was just another guy who showed up in Iowa back then...
Except that at this point in 1991, Bill Clinton wasn't a real threat either. Bill was a relatively unknown governor of a very small state... New Hampshire started his "comeback kid" moniker...

 

[Coach]

He isn't a real threat. NH is meaningless.

More like Bernie Sanders, a very old and independent minded guy who really is not a dynamic speaker was nothing but an afterthought until recently.

Hillary’s campaign is taking on water. Her negative rating is very high, and her level of the trust with the voters is rather low. A bomb scandal can explode at any time. The more she speaks, the less people like her.

Clinton has been bought, sold and re-packaged too often. And she’s going to own plenty of favors if elected. Her flip flop positions on many things such as the Iraq war, Same sex marriage, Driver’s Licenses for undocumented immigrants, and Ethanol are un-popular with the left.

Sanders is as authentic as they come. I disagree. Sanders is a threat.


https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/22/hillary-clintons-leftward-flip-flops/

 

[21STEELERS21]

Which red state do you think Bernie can beat Hillary in? How will he do in Texas?

 

[GRBman]

Which red state do you think Bernie can beat Hillary in? How will he do in Texas?

He doesn't have to beat her in red states...He only has to beat her in blue states where the majority of the delegates reside. Also, as Coach has said, the more she speaks, the more people don't like her. There's something about Hillary that just grates on people...and then there's the whole email scandal. As much as Dems would like to say that it isn't a big deal, it really is, and the FBI probe proves that fact. People are looking at her completely differently. Benghazi? People largely don't care any more...this email thing...they do, because everybody knows about email. Everybody knows what you can and can't do...and they know she screwed up royally...

...if she's capable of screwing up email...

 

[Coach]

He doesn't have to beat her in red states...He only has to beat her in blue states where the majority of the delegates reside. Also, as Coach has said, the more she speaks, the more people don't like her. There's something about Hillary that just grates on people...and then there's the whole email scandal. As much as Dems would like to say that it isn't a big deal, it really is, and the FBI probe proves that fact. People are looking at her completely differently. Benghazi? People largely don't care any more...this email thing...they do, because everybody knows about email. Everybody knows what you can and can't do...and they know she screwed up royally...

...if she's capable of screwing up email...

In terms of email, she deleted 1,000's of them. Oh sure she has 1,000's of personal emails.

Understand this, just because they were deleted on her server doesn't mean the recipient of the email also deleted it or did not " snap shot " or forward it, or save it for a CYA.. Nor does it mean the server was not hacked.

The very fact that Clinton did not trust USA government security which has 256KB encryption levels and multiple domain names and aliases on something as important on email raises yet another red flag.

Suppose something comes up that is either REAL or FAKE. How in the heck can Hillary or her spin people defend it? They can’t, and if they try many won’t believe it and only more questions will be asked. She’s already lost in the court of public opinion and is severely compromised on this issue. This ticking time bomb can go off whenever a Republican or Democratic opponent of her chooses.

All that’s left is to see what the FBI says. The FBI is very good at what they do.

 

[21STEELERS21]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...9c0e52-0af7-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html

Do you read the newspapers? China and Russia have frequently hacked into government computers, including White House and State Department.

I'm curious what you think Hillary would have on her e:mails. Do you think she was plotting to overthrow the US Government?

 

[Vader]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...9c0e52-0af7-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html

Do you read the newspapers? China and Russia have frequently hacked into government computers, including White House and State Department.

I'm curious what you think Hillary would have on her e:mails. Do you think she was plotting to overthrow the US Government?

It doesn't matter what China and Russia do. They kill people as well. Does that mean it's ok to do it here? Sometimes I wonder if you were dropped on your head as a child. It is ILLEGAL to have classified information on your private e-mail server. It is ILLEGAL to receive or send classified emails. People are in jail right now in the U.S. for doing much much less.

 

[Superman]

21 is saying we should ask China for what they pulled prior to Hitlery deleting it.

he goes over this in Chapter 41 of his best-selling book.

 

[Coach]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...9c0e52-0af7-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html

Do you read the newspapers? China and Russia have frequently hacked into government computers, including White House and State Department.

I'm curious what you think Hillary would have on her e:mails. Do you think she was plotting to overthrow the US Government?

Who has better cyber security, Clinton’s private server, or a highly confidential / hidden governmental email that can change domain names frequently and offers the best encryption?

Clinton's server I'm pretty sure was not as secure.

 

[21STEELERS21]

Colin Powell did the exact same thing as Secretary of State, should we be collecting his e:mail.

I realize your grasping at straws because you don't want her to be President. Good luck with that.

 

[Vader]

Colin Powell did the exact same thing as Secretary of State, should we be collecting his e:mail.

I realize your grasping at straws because you don't want her to be President. Good luck with that.

You can't tell the difference in a private e-mail and a private server? They all had private emails. ONLY Hillary had her own server. Are you too dense to understand that?

Talk about grasping at straws. Damn you are so obtuse.

 

[IndySteel]

21COMMIE21 needs a punctuation editor for his soon to be bestseller.

 

[CoolieMan]

You can't tell the difference in a private e-mail and a private server? They all had private emails. ONLY Hillary had her own server. Are you too dense to understand that?

Talk about grasping at straws. Damn you are so obtuse.

by obtuse, he means "******* idiot"

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I'm curious what you think Hillary would have on her e:mails. Do you think she was plotting to overthrow the US Government?

Likely most of it was longtime Clinton adviser Sid Blumenthal telling her how to run the State Dept. Hildebeast wanted to hire him there but Bomma firmly said no. You Leftys were worried about Dick Cheney running a "shadow government' but Sid Blumenthal is the sort who would do that **** for real. Hildebeast had her own email and server for two reasons; So the govt (Bomma) wouldn't know who was buying influence and so that no one would know how much input Sid Blumenthal had. Okay, three reasons, also that the Clintons think that rules don't apply to them and the normal Clinton penchant for secrecy and no one else knowing what they are doing.

 

[deljzc]

I agree that Clinton is vulnerable. And I think Sanders has a real chance at the White House.

For all the Trump support that's floating around the right-wing right now, there is that much support on the left for Sanders. Whether that supports (like Trump) permeates into the casual left/right-winger has yet to be determined.

Honestly, this is going to be one of the most interesting primary seasons ever. You have this glut of Republican wannabes that are going to kill each other trying to get to the top and on the other side it's a clear 2-horse race (I don't think Biden will run). Kind of polar opposites of how the system works and a great case study into our political system.

It would be a very interesting time to be a college kid again and learning about this stuff seriously.

 

[Stewey]

I'm curious what you think Hillary would have on her e:mails. Do you think she was plotting to overthrow the US Government?

You're "curious" eh? Liberals like you were more than just curious, calling for Nixons head when it was discovered that 17minutes of audio tape was erased....and for what? Spying on the Democrats?

The Hildebeast just turned over a blank server to FBI....

http://nypost.com/2015/08/13/hillary-clinton-turns-in-blank-email-server-to-investigators/

 

[IndySteel]

She destroyed evidence because she's guilty. Where have we heard a similar story lately?

 

[Rod Farva]

You can't tell the difference in a private e-mail and a private server? They all had private emails. ONLY Hillary had her own server. Are you too dense to understand that?

Talk about grasping at straws. Damn you are so obtuse.

by obtuse, he means "******* idiot"

Bmti....obtuseness is deliberate. Stupidity comes naturally.

I agree that Clinton is vulnerable. And I think Sanders has a real chance at the White House.

For all the Trump support that's floating around the right-wing right now, there is that much support on the left for Sanders. Whether that supports (like Trump) permeates into the casual left/right-winger has yet to be determined.

Honestly, this is going to be one of the most interesting primary seasons ever. You have this glut of Republican wannabes that are going to kill each other trying to get to the top and on the other side it's a clear 2-horse race (I don't think Biden will run). Kind of polar opposites of how the system works and a great case study into our political system.

It would be a very interesting time to be a college kid again and learning about this stuff seriously.

I'd say it's kind of polar opposites in how one system works (capitalism and a representative republic) and one system that has proven ad infinitum that it (socialism) doesn't.

You're "curious" eh? Liberals like you were more than just curious, calling for Nixons head when it was discovered that 17minutes of audio tape was erased....and for what? Spying on the Democrats?

The Hildebeast just turned over a blank server to FBI....

http://nypost.com/2015/08/13/hillary-clinton-turns-in-blank-email-server-to-investigators/

Thought about this the other day. For all Nixon's faults he had the integrity to resign rather than put the country through the bullshit involved with impeachment. The only president since that has been so threatened has said "**** the country and it's population of idiots.....prove it."

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I agree that Clinton is vulnerable. And I think Sanders has a real chance at the White House.

The party will never let Sanders be the nominee. Remember, the Dems are really the Party Of The Rich and Bernie is the real deal and will be coming for their money. They'll never let that happen.

 

[Spike]

Memo from Clinton campaign to supporters: Don't panic!

A memo sent by Hillary Clinton’s campaign to her supporters this week urged them to remain calm

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...16-121322.html

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Ha Ha!

 

[Vader]

I find it odd that the same people that think Trump has no chance also believe Sanders has a chance in hell of winning. Sanders plays well in white liberal north east and north west. I have a better chance of winning fly over country than Sanders.

BTW what are the polls if Sanders wins and goes against any Republican? I often see polls with Hillary or Biden. I haven't seen one with Sanders.