So someone calling Cowher "The Chin" or John Gruden "Chucky" could never be used as a slight. So it's ok for other coaches to have nicknames but not Tomlin if anyone ever uses it as a "slight"
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So someone calling Cowher "The Chin" or John Gruden "Chucky" could never be used as a slight. So it's ok for other coaches to have nicknames but not Tomlin if anyone ever uses it as a "slight"
So you are stating here and now that you never saw it as a slight??
Im going on record for saying i never saw or felt The Chin as a slight to Cowher as a coach..always looked at it as cowher is fired up..
Same goes for Gruden he looks like chucky when he makes faces..nothing there..he does..
Same for Tomlin and Omar Epps he looks like Omar Epps. None of those is the same as Coach cool shades and the people who used as a slight to his coaching. But if you deny seeing it used that way cool..im done with it..
And im not speaking for anyone but myself..you or anyone else dont like it kick rocks
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I wonder what "Cool Shades" is having for supper tonight???
Me, I'll probably have a great salad and a Pork Chop(s).
Salute the nation
Me, I'll probably have a great salad and a Pork Chop(s).
Salute the nation
I call him cool shades because it's a physical trait of his during alot of games, nothing more, nothing less.
I wonder if "Big Dummy" is a slight toward Ben's QB play?
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I wonder if "Big Dummy" is a slight toward Ben's QB play?
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Absolutely it is
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Of course! But do you not think that when this site was born and beyond when The Jaw was coaching that he still didn’t take crap for that epic collapse? We heard it quite often on this board when he coached about that game.
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Well you think it’s a negative nickname of Tomlin and some of us here don’t. Again, no one is right or wrong. It’s a difference of opinion and that’s fine.
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Not pointing any fingers toward any individual here, but there is a racial component at work. All you have to look at is how if an African-American Steeler does something"wrong"like smoke cannabis, they are known as "smoky" for years, even if they clean up their "act". Even though cannabis is legal in many states and many of those ridiculing partake of alcohol.....much worse.
Why?
Meanwhile Ben will never be ridiculed. We never saw the sexual assault jokes and nicknames here.....imagine "rapey" being tossed around here like it's nothing......
Why?
Heath Miller gets a chant; Heaaaathhhh.....hell even Jesse James gets it and he's not Heath...
Again; why? Are Steeler fans so stupid that they don't know Miller retired? Of course not......of course not.
This is all a part of "The great white hope syndrome" as I call it.
Sports dominated by minorities, the first black president, the election of a complete babbling idiot to the presidency just because he fed them "Great white hope" nonsense....and because he was a white old man......NFL anthem protests anyone?
Meanwhile no matter how great African-American Steelers play, if they celebrate too much for years we got " They need to quit showboating and act like Barry Sanders."
Why? What exactly was Sander's "act"? One that emulates the dominant culture....right?
There ABSOLUTELY is a racial component.
Tomlin is despised for being "a players coach"
LeBeau is LOVED for being a "players coach"
Again; I'm not pointing fingers at any one person. These are observations that my behavioral science training won't let me ignore.
Enough said.......
Take it to politics or STFU.
Tomlin s despised for PERCEIVED bullshit artist, non coaching, poor clock management, not doing anything with the defensive backfield for years (which was supposed to be his arena) and repeating phrases ad nauseum.
Steeler fans wouldn't chant anything if Baltimore hadn't started with their "Heap" chant for their tight end.
Nobody gives two ***** anymore about Barry, who did his best to **** up this country. So. Has nothing to do with Your black issues.
If Donald Trump was black,, the media would call him a brave outstanding leader. And the people would ALL love him.
Tomlin s despised for PERCEIVED bullshit artist, non coaching, poor clock management, not doing anything with the defensive backfield for years (which was supposed to be his arena) and repeating phrases ad nauseum.
Steeler fans wouldn't chant anything if Baltimore hadn't started with their "Heap" chant for their tight end.
Nobody gives two ***** anymore about Barry, who did his best to **** up this country. So. Has nothing to do with Your black issues.
If Donald Trump was black,, the media would call him a brave outstanding leader. And the people would ALL love him.
Yeah you know it's strange, I never see white people wearing a black players jersey and I never see black people wearing a white players jersey.
When I go to training camp, the white fans only try to get the white players autographs and the same with the black fans.
Get out of here with the race bullshit, it has nothing to do with any of this. Yes there are racist people out there, but the cool shades thing has nothing to do with race, wow.
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When I go to training camp, the white fans only try to get the white players autographs and the same with the black fans.
Get out of here with the race bullshit, it has nothing to do with any of this. Yes there are racist people out there, but the cool shades thing has nothing to do with race, wow.
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Is alcohol illegal? is alcohol on the prohibited substance list for players in the NFL. Is cannabis a permitted substance in the NFL?
Was Ben ever convicted or even taken to court for any of the ALLEGATIONS against him? You have never heard anyone that refers to him as Rapistberger? Crawl out from under the rock you are living under.
What in the hell does this have to do with your baseless and pointless argument about racial inequality? I didn't realize that James was Black and being disparaged by calling him Heaaaaathhhh
The NFL is almost 70% black athletes. Almost 90% of WR and RB are black athletes. Wouldn't it stand to reason that if 90% of the people scoring TD's are black than that would explain why you feel black athletes are unfairly targeted and told told to quit showboating? It is a law of percentages, but I am sure you learned all about that in your behavioral science classes you took.
When it helps your case and argument you can spin it how ever you want, too bad the numbers don't agree with you.
There is nothing disparaging about being a players coach, it's about what you get out of your players and the culture that you create. How many of Dick Lebeau's players were on FB live while he was talking, how many of his players were failing drug tests that got them suspended and hurt the team.
Yes, your completely unbiased perspective that looks at all things from an objective and scientific approach. You know, like they teach in behavioral science classes.
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I was acknowledging your post by saying of course.
Anyway, all I was saying is that I was aware the board didn’t exist in 95 when we played the Bolts in the AFCC game but the criticism of that game got mentioned when the board did surface and many times.
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Yep, I was an original member back in the 90’s when this board looked something like a Reddit forum. Every AFC championship game we lost people wanted Cowhers head on a platter. To be honest I was one of those guys a couple of times.
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Scared White People Are Running Out Of Reasons To Hate Cam Newton
On Sunday in Nashville, the Carolina Panthers beat the Tennessee Titans 27-10 and extended their record to a perfect 8-1. Panthers quarterback Cam Newton sealed the game late in the fourth when he took a snap from two yards out on third and goal, bullied his way to the right, and reached over four Titans for the game-clinching touchdown. Then he started to dance and some people lost their ****.
He was dabbing, though that’s unimportant. What is important, though, is that two Titans linebackers, Avery Williamson and Wesley Woodyard, likely frustrated that their team is perhaps the worst in the whole dang league and that they just dropped another game, took umbrage that Newton was dancing. They got in his face; instead of being cowed by his opponents, Newton proceeded to hit dem folks. It was funny, and then it was over. A few minutes later, so was the game.
It’s Tuesday now, but over the last two days, there’s been so damn much ado about a few seconds of dancing. Yesterday, Titans interim head coach Mike Mularkey addressed the touchdown celebration.
“I know Avery was frustrated by it, but I think there was a whole lot of people frustrated by it,” Mularkey told The Tennessean. “It’s a little rubbing-it-in-your-face type of deal, which there’s a little code of ethics in the NFL. (It’s) not a good move.”
Yesterday on First Take, Skip Bayless called the dance, “a little much for a franchise quarterback.”
“We’ve talked so much about the maturation of Cam Newton, his emergence as the leader of this football team,” Bayless said. “And in this case, I thought it was a little beneath him to celebrate like a diva wide receiver would. Get all caught up in the emotion and go into a more lengthy celebration.
“So no big deal, but if you ask me if I have a problem with it, the best way I can put it is, I did not love it.”
Today, the Charlotte Observer ran a letter from a Titans fan named Rosemary Plorin who attended the game with her daughter, chiding him for not thinking of the children.
Because of where we sat, we had a close up view of your conduct in the fourth quarter. The chest puffs. The pelvic thrusts. The arrogant struts and the ‘in your face’ taunting of both the Titans’ players and fans. We saw it all.
I refuse to believe you don’t realize you are a role model. You are paid millions of dollars every week to play hard and be a leader. In the off season you’re expected to make appearances, support charities, and inspire young kids to pursue your sport and all sports. With everything the NFL has gone through in recent years, I’m confident they have advised that you are, by virtue of your position and career choice, a role model.
And because you are a role model, your behavior brought out like behavior in the stands. Some of the Panthers fans in our section began taunting the hometown fans. Many Titans fans booed you, a few offering instructive, but not necessarily family friendly, suggestions as to how you might change your behavior.
It’s instructive not only that this non-story has somehow endured through today, but how. Mularkey made a plea to the NFL’s unspoken code of ethics, alluding that Newton was somehow disrespecting the sport. Bayless made the racially loaded claim that a celebration was beneath a quarterback, befitting a “diva” wide receiver. Plorin deemed him oversexed, arrogant, and a danger to kids.
These are all common tropes, often proffered when certain athletes dare to exult in their own victory, arrogantly, without any semblance of humility. We still see it all the time, like with Seattle Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman, who two years ago made the play of his life and then sent the nation into hysterics by having the audacity to be fired up in a postgame interview with Erin Andrews. He, like Newton and any number of black athletes who went off the safe and paternal script, forgot his place.
Long after the NFL was integrated and black players inundated the league at virtually every position, they were still deemed unfit to lead men, either as a head coaches or as quarterbacks. In 2003, the NFL instituted the Rooney Rule, mandating that NFL owners must interview at least one candidate of color for all coaching and front office roles in order to insulate owners from their own racism. Now, the last bastion of white paternalism is the quarterback position, where QBs are still viewed by some as adults in a room full of mostly black boys, moral paragons to show their teammates true north.
When Tom Brady celebrates hard after touchdowns, he’s merely pumping up his team. Philip Rivers is one of the biggest trash-talkers in sports, but he’s seen as a fiery competitor who wears his heart on his sleeve. On Sunday night, the Arizona Cardinals won a close game in Seattle against the Seahawks. Cardinals backup quarterback Drew Stanton waved running back Andre Ellington into the end zone from the sideline like the Cardinals had just won the lwoB repuS in what was later described as an “ode to joy.”
Arizona’s starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, motioned to Seahawks fans to suck his dick. He may be fined, but few people are clutching their children.
What’s telling is how this time, the objections to Newton’s celebration seem to fall flat in the aftermath, as if people are just going through the motions with the full knowledge that it’s bullshit.
Newton was drafted in 2011; in his first two seasons, the Panthers were anonymous. After a 12-4 year in 2013, the Panthers regressed last season, going 7-8-1. Disingenuous gripes about Newton’s character could be couched in critiques of his playing style, sideline demeanor, and immaturity. It was easier to look at a young, brash quarterback, and ask if he was fit to lead a franchise when that franchise sucked.
Newton’s personality and playing style have remained constant throughout his career, but now he’s a better quarterback, and the Panthers’ defense is better. With Carolina undefeated, people have to resort to hating him for more transparent reasons rooted in their own biases.
Newton’s recent progress shatters the fallacy that comportment is somehow connected to sports, that an athlete’s success is correlated with a muted reaction to it. The Panthers’ offense is alarmingly thin, yet Newton still wins with them, killing opponents through the air and on the ground. Though not the best quarterback in the league right now, he’s the most inevitable one, often leading an undermanned team down the field late in games before throwing a clutch strike or, like on Sunday against the Titans, handling matters himself.
If the Panthers weren’t undefeated, and if Newton weren’t a midseason MVP candidate, some would take some dabbing as a window into his soul and his future, proof that he’s not and will never be a True Franchise Quarterback. But they can’t anymore. He’s showing with every win that pearl-clutching talk about his maturity or whether he’s appropriately deferential after touchdowns says more about those doing the complaining. Newton’s proving that the things about him that make people so angry are entirely unconnected to his on-field success, and that to “play the right way” is to win and put yourself and your team in a position to dance every week.
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And you can clearly see that there were no "pelvic thrusts"in that video, just a woman needing to say anything negative, any stereotype about "oversexed black men", because it's bad enough you are black and making WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY more money than I am. You should at least know your place.
Brady can celebrate ALL he wants...because he's "a great leader". Carson Palmer can tell the crowd to suck his dick....NOT a problem....
At least LEAVE US that psychological bird Dr. King so clearly defined:
“If it may be said of the slavery era that the white man took the world and gave the Negro Jesus, then it may be said of the Reconstruction era that the southern aristocracy took the world and gave the poor white man Jim Crow. (Yes, sir) He gave him Jim Crow. (Uh huh) And when his wrinkled stomach cried out for the food that his empty pockets could not provide, (Yes, sir) he ate Jim Crow, a psychological bird that told him that no matter how bad off he was, at least he was a white man, better than the black man. (Right sir) And he ate Jim Crow. (Uh huh) And when his undernourished children cried out for the necessities that his low wages could not provide, he showed them the Jim Crow signs on the buses and in the stores, on the streets and in the public buildings. (Yes, sir) And his children, too, learned to feed upon Jim Crow, (Speak) their last outpost of psychological oblivion. (Yes, sir)”
“To meet this threat, the southern aristocracy began immediately to engineer this development of a segregated society. (Right) I want you to follow me through here because this is very important to see the roots of racism and the denial of the right to vote. Through their control of mass media, they revised the doctrine of white supremacy. They saturated the thinking of the poor white masses with it, (Yes) thus clouding their minds to the real issue involved in the Populist Movement. They then directed the placement on the books of the South of laws that made it a crime for Negroes and whites to come together as equals at any level. (Yes, sir) And that did it. That crippled and eventually destroyed the Populist Movement of the nineteenth century.”
Martin Luther King, 1965, Selma
And.....we are done.
On Sunday in Nashville, the Carolina Panthers beat the Tennessee Titans 27-10 and extended their record to a perfect 8-1. Panthers quarterback Cam Newton sealed the game late in the fourth when he took a snap from two yards out on third and goal, bullied his way to the right, and reached over four Titans for the game-clinching touchdown. Then he started to dance and some people lost their ****.
He was dabbing, though that’s unimportant. What is important, though, is that two Titans linebackers, Avery Williamson and Wesley Woodyard, likely frustrated that their team is perhaps the worst in the whole dang league and that they just dropped another game, took umbrage that Newton was dancing. They got in his face; instead of being cowed by his opponents, Newton proceeded to hit dem folks. It was funny, and then it was over. A few minutes later, so was the game.
It’s Tuesday now, but over the last two days, there’s been so damn much ado about a few seconds of dancing. Yesterday, Titans interim head coach Mike Mularkey addressed the touchdown celebration.
“I know Avery was frustrated by it, but I think there was a whole lot of people frustrated by it,” Mularkey told The Tennessean. “It’s a little rubbing-it-in-your-face type of deal, which there’s a little code of ethics in the NFL. (It’s) not a good move.”
Yesterday on First Take, Skip Bayless called the dance, “a little much for a franchise quarterback.”
“We’ve talked so much about the maturation of Cam Newton, his emergence as the leader of this football team,” Bayless said. “And in this case, I thought it was a little beneath him to celebrate like a diva wide receiver would. Get all caught up in the emotion and go into a more lengthy celebration.
“So no big deal, but if you ask me if I have a problem with it, the best way I can put it is, I did not love it.”
Today, the Charlotte Observer ran a letter from a Titans fan named Rosemary Plorin who attended the game with her daughter, chiding him for not thinking of the children.
Because of where we sat, we had a close up view of your conduct in the fourth quarter. The chest puffs. The pelvic thrusts. The arrogant struts and the ‘in your face’ taunting of both the Titans’ players and fans. We saw it all.
I refuse to believe you don’t realize you are a role model. You are paid millions of dollars every week to play hard and be a leader. In the off season you’re expected to make appearances, support charities, and inspire young kids to pursue your sport and all sports. With everything the NFL has gone through in recent years, I’m confident they have advised that you are, by virtue of your position and career choice, a role model.
And because you are a role model, your behavior brought out like behavior in the stands. Some of the Panthers fans in our section began taunting the hometown fans. Many Titans fans booed you, a few offering instructive, but not necessarily family friendly, suggestions as to how you might change your behavior.
It’s instructive not only that this non-story has somehow endured through today, but how. Mularkey made a plea to the NFL’s unspoken code of ethics, alluding that Newton was somehow disrespecting the sport. Bayless made the racially loaded claim that a celebration was beneath a quarterback, befitting a “diva” wide receiver. Plorin deemed him oversexed, arrogant, and a danger to kids.
These are all common tropes, often proffered when certain athletes dare to exult in their own victory, arrogantly, without any semblance of humility. We still see it all the time, like with Seattle Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman, who two years ago made the play of his life and then sent the nation into hysterics by having the audacity to be fired up in a postgame interview with Erin Andrews. He, like Newton and any number of black athletes who went off the safe and paternal script, forgot his place.
Long after the NFL was integrated and black players inundated the league at virtually every position, they were still deemed unfit to lead men, either as a head coaches or as quarterbacks. In 2003, the NFL instituted the Rooney Rule, mandating that NFL owners must interview at least one candidate of color for all coaching and front office roles in order to insulate owners from their own racism. Now, the last bastion of white paternalism is the quarterback position, where QBs are still viewed by some as adults in a room full of mostly black boys, moral paragons to show their teammates true north.
When Tom Brady celebrates hard after touchdowns, he’s merely pumping up his team. Philip Rivers is one of the biggest trash-talkers in sports, but he’s seen as a fiery competitor who wears his heart on his sleeve. On Sunday night, the Arizona Cardinals won a close game in Seattle against the Seahawks. Cardinals backup quarterback Drew Stanton waved running back Andre Ellington into the end zone from the sideline like the Cardinals had just won the lwoB repuS in what was later described as an “ode to joy.”
Arizona’s starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, motioned to Seahawks fans to suck his dick. He may be fined, but few people are clutching their children.
What’s telling is how this time, the objections to Newton’s celebration seem to fall flat in the aftermath, as if people are just going through the motions with the full knowledge that it’s bullshit.
Newton was drafted in 2011; in his first two seasons, the Panthers were anonymous. After a 12-4 year in 2013, the Panthers regressed last season, going 7-8-1. Disingenuous gripes about Newton’s character could be couched in critiques of his playing style, sideline demeanor, and immaturity. It was easier to look at a young, brash quarterback, and ask if he was fit to lead a franchise when that franchise sucked.
Newton’s personality and playing style have remained constant throughout his career, but now he’s a better quarterback, and the Panthers’ defense is better. With Carolina undefeated, people have to resort to hating him for more transparent reasons rooted in their own biases.
Newton’s recent progress shatters the fallacy that comportment is somehow connected to sports, that an athlete’s success is correlated with a muted reaction to it. The Panthers’ offense is alarmingly thin, yet Newton still wins with them, killing opponents through the air and on the ground. Though not the best quarterback in the league right now, he’s the most inevitable one, often leading an undermanned team down the field late in games before throwing a clutch strike or, like on Sunday against the Titans, handling matters himself.
If the Panthers weren’t undefeated, and if Newton weren’t a midseason MVP candidate, some would take some dabbing as a window into his soul and his future, proof that he’s not and will never be a True Franchise Quarterback. But they can’t anymore. He’s showing with every win that pearl-clutching talk about his maturity or whether he’s appropriately deferential after touchdowns says more about those doing the complaining. Newton’s proving that the things about him that make people so angry are entirely unconnected to his on-field success, and that to “play the right way” is to win and put yourself and your team in a position to dance every week.
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And you can clearly see that there were no "pelvic thrusts"in that video, just a woman needing to say anything negative, any stereotype about "oversexed black men", because it's bad enough you are black and making WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY more money than I am. You should at least know your place.
Brady can celebrate ALL he wants...because he's "a great leader". Carson Palmer can tell the crowd to suck his dick....NOT a problem....
At least LEAVE US that psychological bird Dr. King so clearly defined:
“If it may be said of the slavery era that the white man took the world and gave the Negro Jesus, then it may be said of the Reconstruction era that the southern aristocracy took the world and gave the poor white man Jim Crow. (Yes, sir) He gave him Jim Crow. (Uh huh) And when his wrinkled stomach cried out for the food that his empty pockets could not provide, (Yes, sir) he ate Jim Crow, a psychological bird that told him that no matter how bad off he was, at least he was a white man, better than the black man. (Right sir) And he ate Jim Crow. (Uh huh) And when his undernourished children cried out for the necessities that his low wages could not provide, he showed them the Jim Crow signs on the buses and in the stores, on the streets and in the public buildings. (Yes, sir) And his children, too, learned to feed upon Jim Crow, (Speak) their last outpost of psychological oblivion. (Yes, sir)”
“To meet this threat, the southern aristocracy began immediately to engineer this development of a segregated society. (Right) I want you to follow me through here because this is very important to see the roots of racism and the denial of the right to vote. Through their control of mass media, they revised the doctrine of white supremacy. They saturated the thinking of the poor white masses with it, (Yes) thus clouding their minds to the real issue involved in the Populist Movement. They then directed the placement on the books of the South of laws that made it a crime for Negroes and whites to come together as equals at any level. (Yes, sir) And that did it. That crippled and eventually destroyed the Populist Movement of the nineteenth century.”
Martin Luther King, 1965, Selma
And.....we are done.
Elfie, they're saying JESSEEEEEEEEEE It's why the crowd doesn't say anything when Vance catches the ball, because the crowd is smart enough to know Heath Miller retired. They only said HEEEEEATH the year Heath played with Jesse.
B&G Bleeder, Tomlin addressed all of those issues, and he only made one clock management error this year. The end of the last Ravens game. I have a spreadsheet. Check it out.
B&G Bleeder, Tomlin addressed all of those issues, and he only made one clock management error this year. The end of the last Ravens game. I have a spreadsheet. Check it out.
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Pretty sure they still said Heath the first year after he was gone.
I was in the stadium. After the 4th week, it wasn't HEEEEATH. It was JESSSEEEEEEEE
I know. I meant to put in there (in the past) but I was distracted. You are correct.