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Game Balls, Game Goats & FU's...........week 1 @ J-E-T-S.....JETS, JETS, JETS!

NoKap#7 said:
No im not at all...and i told you im done with this conversation.
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Steeltime said:
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You can't argue with stupid so I dont know what you want me to do...and why continue to beat a dead horse?? You guys won't be satisfied until this team is 6ft under and Coach Tomlin is out the door.
 
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ZonaBurgh said:
Jets were up 11 at the start of the 4th, almost certain that's more than one possession.
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"I cannot believe I am even arguing with you ignoramuses. Have you never heard of the magical 5-point conversion???"
- NoBrain7
 
NoKap#7 said:
I dont know what kind of stupidity you're trying to push but you fall flat in making your point. His success is not luck or coincidence if it's consistent and he's been consistent in winning since he started here regardless of who has been at the QB position.

If you have coached as long as Tomlin has theres a good chance you've had a chance to coach a HOF or two, but you should have mentioned only one was in his prime when he coached him. Besides that multiple coaches have coached the same HOF QB double digit years

Bill Belichick/Tom Brady
Sean Payton/Drew Brees
Mike McCarthy/Aaron Rodgers
Paul Brown/Otto Graham
Tom Laundry/Roger Staubach
Bill Walsh/Joe Montana
Chuck Knoll/Terry Bradshaw
Don Shula/Dan Marino

Pretty much no coach has been able to build his legacy without a HOF Qb or at least a franchise QB to cover his ssa as you say.
Donovan McNabb isnt a HOF (yet), but Pat Mahomes most definitely is so thats two pretty good QBs that Andy Reid has had the luxury of coaching. If Im not mistaken Bruce Arians had the luxury of coaching Andrew Luck, Carson Palmer, and Tom Brady.

Bill Walsh also coached Steve Young and Ken Stabler. Shula also coached Bob Griese and Johnny Unitas

As far as Dynamic Trios

Bill Walsh had Joe Montana, Jerry Rice and Roger Craig

Jimmy Johnson had Aikman, Smith and Irvin.

Besides that The Triple Bees only played three full seasons together. Stop trying to be deceptive and act like they played a lifetime together and all three only played in one playoff game together due to injury...

We could go on and on, but you're just
LOUD AND FLAT OUT WRONG with every stance you've taken in your post and I just proved it!

Not only that but theres a few coaches who have missed out on SBs with HOF or at least premier players at QBs WRs RBs on the same team (i.e. Marv Levy). Look at all the teams that missed out in the AFC because of Brady/Belichick.

You thought you ate with your post. You didn't!! Too bad your even less informed cronies decided to upvote you b4 they checked for themselves. I guess the blind lead the blind. I wish I had swampland to sale to everyone of you.
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This post 100% proves my point, Couldn't have illustrated it any clearer myself.

Belichick 6 Rings/9 superbowls 20 seasons
Chuck Knoll 4 Rings /4 superbowls 12 seasons
Andy Reid 3 Rings/6 superbowls 7 seasons
Bill Walsh 3/3 superbowls 9 seasons
Jimmy Johnson 2/2 superbowls 5 seasons

Mike Tomlin 1 Ring/2 superbowls 19 seasons

Despite having The killer bees Tomlin couldn't beat journeymen in the playoffs.
None of the coaches above had a trio that were in the same universe as the Killer Bees. They just didn't, statistically verified.

No coach ever had close to that on the same field. If you would like to argue that bring some numbers?

The level of ignorance it takes to make my point for me and then call me wrong is truly next level stupidity.
 
I hereby request that all Steelers fans remember that the greatest coach in NFL history was Chuck Noll, NOT "Chuck Knoll."

Thank you.
 
bigben said:
This post 100% proves my point, Couldn't have illustrated it any clearer myself.

Belichick 6 Rings/9 superbowls 20 seasons
Chuck Knoll 4 Rings /4 superbowls 12 seasons
Andy Reid 3 Rings/6 superbowls 7 seasons
Bill Walsh 3/3 superbowls 9 seasons
Jimmy Johnson 2/2 superbowls 5 seasons

Mike Tomlin 1 Ring/2 superbowls 19 seasons

Despite having The killer bees Tomlin couldn't beat journeymen in the playoffs.
None of the coaches above had a trio that were in the same universe as the Killer Bees. They just didn't, statistically verified.

No coach ever had close to that on the same field. If you would like to argue that bring some numbers?

The level of ignorance it takes to make my point for me and then call me wrong is truly next level stupidity.
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Stupidity?? You must have dementia and forgotten what the point of your original post was now that youre trying to move the goalposts? My post absolutely did nothing to prove your point. Initially u claimed there weren't any coaches that had coached multiple HOF QBs. I proved that wrong by giving you at least 7 examples. you then claimed there was no other coach in history that had a #1 RB and a #WR in the league. I proved that wrong. You want more examples ? Kurt Warner Marshall Faulk/Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt (Rams) and Carson Palmer D. Johnson and L. Fitzgerald. So now I've given you four examples. You said no one could provide an example of 1 in either case. That was the objective of your posts literally trying to minimize Coach Tomlins accomplishments. You went as far as to say he was the only thats ever been saved by HOF QBs. There's not a HOF coach that exists that didnt have a HOF QB in the picture to help get him there and vice versa. Now that you realize how wrong you were now its switched to "well how many championships did those coaches have as opposed to tomlin?"

Now you want to move the goalposts and compare championships during their tenure claiming there was no excuse with the talent of the Killer Bs even though I've shown teams with similar talent have fell short. This is the glaring problem you fail to acknowledge or refuse to admit regardless of whether other coaches won, or not with their big 3 ...the 2017 season was the biggest failure of Coach Tomlins career when they lost to the Jaguars admittedly, without question. Unfortunately thats the only playoff game that all three ever played together. Another year A Brown was out with an injury and another year Leveon was out with an injury. They only had three seasons played together. Most of the examples youre providing their big three were together for a longer period of time and they had the luxury of going into the playoffs healthy (especially the dynasties).

If you only have three seasons together and you only had one season where all three were healthy going into the playoffs then youre comparing apples to oranges. Furthermore you know as well as I do they havent had a trio since that time which now will be 7-8 years...you also refuse to acknowledge that two of the 3 HOF qBs hes had have been past their prime. Your attempt to minimize his accomplishments is intentional by being blatantly intellectually dishonest and posting his 19 years without acknowledging whats hes dealt with in those 19 years.

Like I said 2017 was his biggest failure as a coach. I can't hold anything against him since then because he hasn't fielded a team anywhere near that since especially on the offensive side of the ball.
 
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NoKap#7 said:
Stupidity?? You must have dementia and forgotten what the point of your original post was now that youre trying to move the goalposts? My post absolutely did nothing to prove your point. Initially u claimed there weren't any coaches that had coached multiple HOF QBs. I proved that wrong by giving you at least 7 examples. you then claimed there was no other coach in history that had a #1 RB and a #WR in the league. I proved that wrong. You want more examples ? Kurt Warner Marshall Faulk/Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt (Rams) and Carson Palmer D. Johnson and L. Fitzgerald. So now I've given you four examples. You said no one could provide an example of 1 in either case. That was the objective of your posts literally trying to minimize Coach Tomlins accomplishments. You went as far as to say he was the only thats ever been saved by HOF QBs. There's not a HOF coach that exists that didnt have a HOF QB in the picture to help get him there and vice versa. Now that you realize how wrong you were now its switched to "well how many championships did those coaches have as opposed to tomlin?"

Now you want to move the goalposts and compare championships during their tenure claiming there was no excuse with the talent of the Killer Bs even though I've shown teams with similar talent have fell short. This is the glaring problem you fail to acknowledge or refuse to admit regardless of whether other coaches won, or not with their big 3 ...the 2017 season was the biggest failure of Coach Tomlins career when they lost to the Jaguars admittedly, without question. Unfortunately thats the only playoff game that all three ever played together. Another year A Brown was out with an injury and another year Leveon was out with an injury. They only had three seasons played together. Most of the examples youre providing their big three were together for a longer period of time and they had the luxury of going into the playoffs healthy (especially the dynasties).

If you only have three seasons together and you only had one season where all three were healthy going into the playoffs then youre comparing apples to oranges. Furthermore you know as well as I do they havent had a trio since that time which now will be 7-8 years...you also refuse to acknowledge that two of the 3 HOF qBs hes had have been past their prime. Your attempt to minimize his accomplishments is intentional by being blatantly intellectually dishonest and posting his 19 years without acknowledging whats hes dealt with in those 19 years.

Like I said 2017 was his biggest failure as a coach. I can't hold anything against him since then because he hasn't fielded a team anywhere near that since especially on the offensive side of the ball.
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Would it be possible for us to get the abridged version next time?
 
My takeaway from the game is that the expensive D players need to step it up, or Tomlin is still calling the plays, or Austin sucks. Something is wrong.

On offense, it was clear to me that Rogers still has it. He appears happy as a Steeler, and I think Tomlin has a lot of respect for Rogers. Hopefully Tomlin will let him do his thing in clutch moments. I also hope the OL can keep Rogers alive for the rest of the season.

I'm thankful to have Boswell. If not for this guy kicking his career best, this game was a loss. 60 yards under pressure can't be easy.
 
NoKap#7 said:
The people who have a problem with it can take Adderall or Ritalin. It was long because it warranted it being long.
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Which one are you on?
 
Steeltime said:
"I cannot believe I am even arguing with you ignoramuses. Have you never heard of the magical 5-point conversion???"
- NoBrain7
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Clearly if the kicker attempts and makes a 95 yard PAT if counts as a 5pt conversion, little known rule from the “I’m a dumazz rule book”
 
NoKap#7 said:
The one im on is "Igottimetoday"
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Dont let them bully you in here. You are doing a great job kicking their ***** so far. Once you bring logic....their argument simply falls apart.
 
NoKap#7 said:
The people who have a problem with it can take Adderall or Ritalin. It was long because it warranted it being long.
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No one wants to read your shortly written tripe let alone a poorly constructed diatribe steeped in arrogance and lacking in any formulative thoughts whatsoever. Spewing statistics shows cause, it doesn't prove a point. For the latter, you need focus and intellect, and you lack both. I now know why you're so emotional in your posts; you have had to go through life being misunderstood and that has had to be frustrating for you. Speaking and writing your jumbled thoughts to others believing that you're making a succinct argument only to receive reactions from your intended audience of disbelief, many times I'm sure it was shocking to them even. My hope is that I've made you self-aware of your condition through my empathetic lens so that you can look to better yourself in hopes of making you, good sir, a more likable and respected member here at Steeler Nation.

You're welcome.
 
NoKap#7 said:
Like I said 2017 was his biggest failure as a coach. I can't hold anything against him since then because he hasn't fielded a team anywhere near that since especially on the offensive side of the ball.
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So you can't hold a coach responsible for the fact he cannot field a team talented enough to win a playoff game where he failed to win a playoff game WITH a roster talented enough to win a playoff game? I guess Tomlin's like a guy in the stands with no control over the roster and no say in the draft picks.

That's your take? Okay. Sure. You bet.
 
NoKap#7 said:
Stupidity?? You must have dementia and forgotten what the point of your original post was now that youre trying to move the goalposts? My post absolutely did nothing to prove your point. Initially u claimed there weren't any coaches that had coached multiple HOF QBs. I proved that wrong by giving you at least 7 examples. you then claimed there was no other coach in history that had a #1 RB and a #WR in the league. I proved that wrong. You want more examples ? Kurt Warner Marshall Faulk/Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt (Rams) and Carson Palmer D. Johnson and L. Fitzgerald. So now I've given you four examples. You said no one could provide an example of 1 in either case. That was the objective of your posts literally trying to minimize Coach Tomlins accomplishments. You went as far as to say he was the only thats ever been saved by HOF QBs. There's not a HOF coach that exists that didnt have a HOF QB in the picture to help get him there and vice versa. Now that you realize how wrong you were now its switched to "well how many championships did those coaches have as opposed to tomlin?"

Now you want to move the goalposts and compare championships during their tenure claiming there was no excuse with the talent of the Killer Bs even though I've shown teams with similar talent have fell short. This is the glaring problem you fail to acknowledge or refuse to admit regardless of whether other coaches won, or not with their big 3 ...the 2017 season was the biggest failure of Coach Tomlins career when they lost to the Jaguars admittedly, without question. Unfortunately thats the only playoff game that all three ever played together. Another year A Brown was out with an injury and another year Leveon was out with an injury. They only had three seasons played together. Most of the examples youre providing their big three were together for a longer period of time and they had the luxury of going into the playoffs healthy (especially the dynasties).

If you only have three seasons together and you only had one season where all three were healthy going into the playoffs then youre comparing apples to oranges. Furthermore you know as well as I do they havent had a trio since that time which now will be 7-8 years...you also refuse to acknowledge that two of the 3 HOF qBs hes had have been past their prime. Your attempt to minimize his accomplishments is intentional by being blatantly intellectually dishonest and posting his 19 years without acknowledging whats hes dealt with in those 19 years.

Like I said 2017 was his biggest failure as a coach. I can't hold anything against him since then because he hasn't fielded a team anywhere near that since especially on the offensive side of the ball.
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Son
1. Which coach specifically on you're list had 3 superbowl winning QB and 2 first ballot hall of famers for 17 of 19 seasons? Simple question

2. Those players you listed were good players, but they didn't put up AB or leveon Bell numbers. If they did prove it statistically

I asked those specific questions, instead of giving me examples backed by statistics, you couldn't.

You went off on a tangent listing better coaches who won more superbowls in less time with significantly statistically inferior skill players.
How stupid can you get?

There is nothing intellectually dishonest about what I posted. 100% factually accurate and statistically backed.

Sorry you got hurt feelings, until you can prove any of it wrong, Bring numbers or shut you're whiney mouth.
 
jiminoh said:
My takeaway from the game is that the expensive D players need to step it up, or Tomlin is still calling the plays, or Austin sucks. Something is wrong.

On offense, it was clear to me that Rogers still has it. He appears happy as a Steeler, and I think Tomlin has a lot of respect for Rogers. Hopefully Tomlin will let him do his thing in clutch moments. I also hope the OL can keep Rogers alive for the rest of the season.

I'm thankful to have Boswell. If not for this guy kicking his career best, this game was a loss. 60 yards under pressure can't be easy.
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I agree with Dad, there is only one way to spell Rogers in the 'burgh and it doesn't contain a D.

From now on Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rogers, because "I said so". :LOL:
 
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bigben said:
Son
1. Which coach specifically on you're list had 3 superbowl winning QB and 2 first ballot hall of famers for 17 of 19 seasons? Simple question

2. Those players you listed were good players, but they didn't put up AB or leveon Bell numbers. If they did prove it statistically

I asked those specific questions, instead of giving me examples backed by statistics, you couldn't.

You went off on a tangent listing better coaches who won more superbowls in less time with significantly statistically inferior skill players.
How stupid can you get?

There is nothing intellectually dishonest about what I posted. 100% factually accurate and statistically backed.

Sorry you got hurt feelings, until you can prove any of it wrong, Bring numbers or shut you're whiney mouth.
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I said what I said you stupid bytch. I already did your hw for you. Do your own fckn hw. That's how we ended up here in the first place with you running your lips behind a keyboard being loud, wrong, dumb as hell, chasing it. I did the part that was relevant to the conversation. Everything else you're talking about is irrelevant. I dont care what the Killer Bs stats were. What does that have to do with the fact they only played in one playoff game together which you conveniently continue to disregard and only were together for three seasons. When you can answer that you dumb piece of **** then I guess we can move along with this conversation. Otherwise you can move your goofy, ignorant azz on to another topic. Anything else bookie?? Im tired of making you look like the retard you are.
 
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