Yeah, but not every route was run short of the sticks. He is making the choice to throw short. Maybe it's all that's open. Idk. I just know not every route is run short. So he has other options. I acknowledge the Tomlin component. But part of the reason for the excitement about Rodgers was there might be a little FU in him...I'm not gonna settle for this safe play all the time. We've seen him in the past. Tomlin ain't gonna bench him regardless of what he does. So that says to me some of this is Rodgers choice.
Game Balls, Game Goats & FU......Week 14................@ Ratbirds......
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I think it’s a little unfair to question Rodgers decision-making on the field.
The only play that I scratched my head on that he made was his last throw of the game , on the critical third down to MVS.
Rodgers really must have a high level of confidence in Valdez-Scantly to Make that decision.
The only play that I scratched my head on that he made was his last throw of the game , on the critical third down to MVS.
Rodgers really must have a high level of confidence in Valdez-Scantly to Make that decision.
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There’s the real you: defending a coach with pathetic 8 year run without a playoff victory till the end
*ss hat, wipe his jizz off your chin before you post again
Fine you want precision it’s looked like this under Canada and Smith and that’s enough for anyone to call it an unacceptable pattern of ineptitude
I bet you had/have a job where you’re in charge of the tiniest little piece of some organization because you clearly can’t grasp that at the end of the day everything that happens on that field is the responsibility of the person in charge-In this case the head coach, when the offense looks like this game after game year after year it reflects back to one man who has failed to change it
You’re **** right I’ll complain about another year where the offense looks like crap, they can’t run the ball, and they can’t stop the run and they’re a big 7-6 in December
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Just like Russell Wilson at Cincy last year, he torched the Bengals, then after that had the shackles put on him by Coach Shades. The final game of the year, we're losing the entire game and Wilson has like 10 passing attempt going into the 4th qtr or something dumb like that.
Also the FU of the game, goes to Tomlin blowing a kiss, your arrogant a55 still needs fired, you know that was aimed at the fans chanting for him to be fired.
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So what you were hoping for is Rodgers says FU Tomlin I’ll do it my way and that would be the key to success-wow what a great head coach
Maybe Tomlin just couldn't see through his Aviators on the super sunny day in Baltimore.
The joy I get. I'm rent free in your head. And then you gotta call little names. Hahaha.
Rodgers is the QB. He can choose where to throw the ball. Not all routes are short of the sticks. Those are facts.
Idk. Do you have a job? So on the job site, a guy drops a hammer on his foot and breaks his toe. That's the foreman's fault? That statement is completely untrue in the real world and on a football field. It is so stupid it defies logic. These players aren't machines with no choice. There is no way that a football game is all the fault of guys who don't play. When Rodgers made the great long throw to Metcalf...was that really Tomlin somehow? Since everything is Tomlin's responsibility, does he get all the credit for the good stuff too?
Yes.
It's TDS. Tomlin Derangement Syndrome. I just make an observation about my frustration for Rodgers settling for throws in front of the sticks and you gotta make it about Tomlin.
Good stuff is playoff wins and being competitive enough to threaten for more.
Good stuff hasn’t existed for a long time. What we see is posturing just enough to prevent good stuff from happening.
Win a playoff game he gets plenty of credit for that good stuff , show something beyond that besides an embarrassing playoff loss and he would get plenty of credit for that.
When you don’t show the good stuff you get all the deserved backlash.
It really is just this simple.
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They did throw it on 3rd down and it was incomplete and 4 yards short of the first down. At least the running plays forced the Ravens to burn TO’s. I don’t know what the 2nd half stats looked like but I know they heavily favored the Ravens. I wouldn’t have wanted to give them the ball back with an extra :30 and another TO or two.
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If it happens again and again and then yes the foreman gets held accountable. Let me guess you were the one bringing coffee and cleaning up after the guys swinging the hammer…
It all goes back to your warped defense of the minutia of him, ignoring the end result for the past 8 years.
It is, and I'm not arguing that. I am arguing the idea that everything that happens on the field is Tomlin's responsibility. Well, if that's the case, if good things happen...
Growing up when Bradshaw made a great throw or Swann made a great catch it never dawned on me to credit Noll. It never dawned on me to blame him when something bad happened either.
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You’ve seen the flow charts of where the passes go this year, all to the side of the field in the short flat and 2-3 deep heaves to the sideline, game after game. Thats gameplan that’s Tomlins preferences, year after year QB after QB, coordinator after coordinator
You’ve got a little bit of something on your chin still
I'm a fan. I'm not ignoring anything. I know the lack of success. Context is important though, and not everything is Tomlin's fault.
Yep, I got 'em coffee. I love it.
You say that a lot. Must have a bit of experience with that, huh?
Someone posted that in the last 18 plus minutes (after going up by 11) they were outgained 210-3.
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You’re pretty sensitive about it, must have hit pretty close to the mark.
Or is it that you’re deflecting from the flow charts of 80% of the passes going 7 yards or less this year that have been up on this site, that’s even closer to the mark.
You praised the last drive for forcing the rats to burn their time outs lol classic Tomlin nut hugger syndrome. It was Run, run, pass short of the sticks…your really think that’s what Rodgers a first ballot hall of famer wanted to run? Do you see Rodgers’ face when we run some garbage run play on 3rd down that goes no where or we throw short of the sticks? Do you see him glare at the sidelines? It’s a look of disgust and disbelief
Make them burn their timeouts lmao that will work great in the playoffs-if it was 1985 and it was 7th grade football
Of course not everything on the field is his responsibility . I am not sure any fan thinks that.
I guess I’m a bottom line fan.
And my bottom line is the head coach just is below the line of what I and most of the fan base finds as acceptable.
A trend has developed which really is the most concerning aspect of his tenure.
Every coach has his up and downs.
And every coach has it is his time to go stamp.
For me what intricacies happen between point A and B is just that. Debatable but not bottom line changing.
That stamp should be used but for reasons outside of what is really important isn’t being used.
it is sapping my love of the game…
It screams of a Bob Nutting scenario which is hard on fans who knew this team at one time was the furthest from that.
I knew it was bad but I didn’t think it was that bad. You could feel it though, you had that sinking feeling in your stomach, or at least I did.
Truth be told we shouldn’t have won that football game. We had three major calls go our way that influenced the outcome directly. We also got two favorable holding calls on the last punt and on the first play of the Raven’s Drive to try to win the game, that’s at least 20 yards in penalties against them at that critical time of the game.
You give them that yardage back and that last drive is a lot more suspenseful.
Our favorite football team was very fortunate in Baltimore Maryland yesterday.
Now the question is can the Steelers take a vantage of it the remainder of this season?
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While I don't want a part in this homoerotic bun fight, I'd say the foreman should've made sure the guy was wearing his steel toed boots.
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context < results
8 years without a playoff win
As of today:
7-6
27th in total offense
28th in total defense
It’s looked like that for many, many years
But you keep worrying about context and making excuses for him…
Which is the foreman’s responsibility and injuries get tallied and fines given. Which could lead to company reputation problems and the inability to win contracts.
No, not everything is Tomlin fault, but when he comes out himself and says "I don't like using the middle of the field in the passing game because that's where turnovers happen" after last season, and then we hardly ever throw in the middle of the field, it's a safe jump to make thinking that's on Tomlin? This has been going on through multiple QB's, OC's, and every other position on offense. Remember everyone bitching when Ben was always in the shot gun and never under center, well now it's the same we use shotgun more than anyone. Everyone complaining Ben was throwing the ball in 2 seconds all short quick stuff, now Rodgers leads the league in how quick he's throwing the ball and how short the ball is traveling in the air. This offense looks just like it did with Fichtner, then Cananda, now Smith, it's a pretty easy assumption that it's Tomlin, he's the only constant.
Agreed 100%!
It is without question that the foreman is responsible for making certain his crew is dressed right for work every day.
And I think it’s appropriate that you could substitute Coach Tomlin with the word foreman in my statement
That's why its hard to be excited with this team, seems like every win they need something out of the ordinary to happen, Jets DB's drop 3 INTs and Boz his a 60 yard FG for the win. They need 13 total turnovers to squeak by Indy and NE, these crazy calls to help them beat Baltimore, they never just line and beat a team, always smoke and mirrors.