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Fordfairlane way too early mock draft 2.0

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Changed it up since most didn’t like my Najee Harris pick and he very likely could be gone when we pick now.

29: R1 P29 OT Samuel Cosmi - Texas
Cosmi is an extremely athletic and above average run blocking tackle. Has the athletic ability to be a pro bowl LT but needs to refine blocking skill. But he plays angry, is a natural knee bender, and can move.

61: R2 P29 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn State
Ebron might be one and done in the Steel city. Vance has a 5.2 million option the Steelers can pick up for 2021. Either way both won’t be back in 2021 and neither are likely there in 2022. Freiermuth had a down season as did Penn State but his 2019 tape is good and imo is a lot like McDonald as he’s a complete TE. He can pass protect, inline run block, or go out on a route.

92: R3 P28 LB Joseph Ossai - Texas
Dupree likely isn’t coming back in 2021 and Highsmith has a good motor but I feel competition is needed here. Ossai is raw but athletic and has a great motor. I feel he at very least gets into the rotation.

131: R4 P29 DL Dante Stills - West Virginia
Stills is an undersized DT who’s best bet for the NFL is to play DE in the 3-4. Lots of production and has played all throughout the line.

138: R4 P36 DB Ar'Darius Washington - TCU
I don’t think Hilton comes back. I feel the team signs Sutton for less and he plays slot until Haden retires and moves to the outside. I feel Washington plays a lot like Hilton and after a season he moves to the slot. He can blitz, flip his hips and run, come up in run support, just is only 5-8 180lbs.

202: R6 P23 RB Master Teague - Ohio State
If not for an injury Teague would have been the primary ball carrier for the buckeyes this year. He is an angry downhill runner who has bigger play abilities than his numbers indicate. I feel Conner is gone or comes back cheap. If Conner leaves Snell starts and Teague likely gets the backup role.

244: R7 P22 WR Tutu Atwell - Louisville
Tutu is lightening in a bottle. Big play guy who can beat you over the top or take a 5 yard slant to the house. Slight stature has him fall as he’s 5-9 165lbs.

248: R7 P26 OL D'Ante Smith - East Carolina
Smith played LT but I feel LG or possibly OC is his future. Nimble feet and build is much more suited for interior.
 
Let's check back in February...

Side note - Najee Harris would be a dream pick for us. Question is, what's the bigger need - RB or QB? Methinks OL is a big need as well...

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I don't dislike Harris. Just OT will be a huge need. I would be ok with a LT then a RB in 2. But wouldn't be a huge shock to see that reversed. OLB in 1 is a dark horse too if Dupree leaves.

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This is a pretty good draft. I'm settling in for drafting OT in the first round and running back in the second. I just think the drop off from the first-round OTs is steeper than it is from Harris/Etienne to any of the other RBs.

I expect the top 4-5 guys to be off the board by the time we pick.

The top two guys I think could be there are Liam Eichenberg and Alex Leatherwood. I think they both have tremendous potential, but Notre Dame has a history of pumping great offensive linemen into the league. Given this, he's my slight favorite at this point.

Javonte Williams and Kenneth Gainwell are my top targets for the second round. Both have explosive ability and have shown good hands out of the backfield.
 
I'm taking Najee if he's there, then tackles the next two rounds. After that it's a crap shoot. If Najee is gone, then the best tackle. No way I'm not taking a rb in the first two rounds. The guys we have are not bell cow caliber. It reminds me of when we tried to get by with Dwyer, and Redman. We need an elite back. Conner and Snell are not the answer.
 
GREAT mock FordFairLane thank you for the break down.

I'm not an expert but like to read up on guys and am fortunate to have several of our board members (including you) who are way more advanced than me. I love the input and appreciative of the sharing.





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Trey Sermon

Would love to see him in our backfield next year...


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I like the Mock, Ford. Ideally, I'd like to see a RB in the second but it'd be hard to pass up a long-term option at tight end. Cosmi would be terrific in the first. You also added a DL, edge, and DB, positions I like to pickup in every draft if possible.
 
Yeah no first round rb for me.

Just look at 2017 Fournette and McCaffrey went top 10. Fournette already been cut.

Yet the real value came later 2nd rounders Dalvin Cook (41) Joe Mixion (48), arguably best rb in the league Alvin Kamara in 3rd (67) , kareen Hunt (86 lead league in rushing as a rookie) We got Connor at 105. Hell Aaron Jones got taken at bottom of the 5th (186)

Just say no to RB in the first round. The drop off in talent at rb is much lower than in positions like OT.
 
The senior bowl week and combine are needed, but for now:


1 ) I'm divided between N. Harris and Mac Jones. Either will due. I'll go with Jones QB Jones. Jones looks like a veteran already. That release, pocket mobility, accuracy, ability to go to 2nd and 3rd reads, and decent arm makes it easy on his receivers. 77% competitions, in the SEC, many of which were downfield passes? Un-heard of.


2 ) Center, Johs Meyers. Pouncey needs to be replaced. Could start at guard if needed. From an athletic family. Not likely to be bust.


3 ) Running Back. Jared Patterson. Extremely fast and productive with good open-field vision and moves ( 7.6 yards per carry ) Patterson destroyed has level of competition at Buffalo. On the small side, but oh what upside.


4A ) OLB Weaver. Very productive at Pitt. While I love Highsmith's effort, I'm not sold on him replacing Dupree.


4B) TE Tony Poljan. The 6'7" giant is productive and can play a lot in 2 TE. Ebron is a talent, but a frustrating me first team 12th type of talent, and he can't block for crap


6 ) OT Tyler Vrabel. Son of former Steelers and current head coach Mike. Good movement skills and push in the run game.


7A ) S Jacoby Stevens. Tremendous size, good production. A hitter

7 B) DT/NT John Marshall. You try moving him. A product part time player.
 
If Najee is there at 1, I grab him and then probably double-dip on the OL. We need a difference-maker at RB and definitely don't have one in our stable right now. I'll give McFarland an offseason before I make a determination on him but Conner and Snell aren't it.
 
TDX27 said:
If Najee is there at 1, I grab him and then probably double-dip on the OL. We need a difference-maker at RB and definitely don't have one in our stable right now. I'll give McFarland an offseason before I make a determination on him but Conner and Snell aren't it.
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Always BPA. If that is Najee fine. If it is a LT good. If it is a pass rusher or another need fine too. I wouldn't mind Conner as a backup. The rest I can take them or leave them.

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For all to see.....OutCoached’s modus operandi......

Original opinion regarding QB...

Coach said:
I'm divided on Trask. Reports say he's a humble guy. He leads his receivers very well, and can throw for 400 yards vs. teams like Alabama, BUT his deep ball is iffy and he's going to be easy to sack. He fits best in a west coast style offense, with a good OL.

Fields looks more like a system QB who good at using OSU talent and his legs. OSU has had many guys who were hyped and did the same but disappointed in the pros. Haskins, C Jones, JT Barrett ,T Pryor ad B Miller to make a few. The times when Fields under pressure, he folds. He did not close strong either.

The guy I like is Mac Jones. I know Alabama has 10 first round pick playing, but it's hard to nit pick at what he does. that accuracy in the SEC...wow. Jones to me won't be Ben or a deep passer, BUT give him a good running game and he's going to move the chains with the best of them. If we can somehow obtain Jones in round two, I'd like it. But he might be gone before we pick in round one. Would I take him in round one? That's a big maybe. If Nick Saban privately signs off on him, make that a yes. He reminds me of Kenny Anderson, a very good, but not quite great NFL QB.
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To concentrate on Jones, who he will ride as HIS player pick or he hyped him first (he hasn’t.) NOTE the “won’t be deep passer” comment. Move the chains type player. Take him in 1st? “Big maybe” if Saban signs off.

Now, after he’s been told Jones is the leading deep ball passer in the SEC this year and the solid game yesterday....

Coach said:
The senior bowl week and combine are needed, but for now:

1 ) I'm divided between N. Harris and Mac Jones. Either will due. I'll go with Jones QB Jones. Jones looks like a veteran already. That release, pocket mobility, accuracy, ability to go to 2nd and 3rd reads, and decent arm makes it easy on his receivers. 77% competitions, in the SEC, many of which were downfield passes? Un-heard of.
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What’s changing in the Senior Bowl, even if there is enough blue chip seniors who participates?

Here is evidence of OutCoached’s level of mastery of player evaluation. There is none, only non-researched opinion. To be described as anything more is ludicrous.


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Ike Kelly said:
Here is evidence of OutCoached’s level of mastery of player evaluation. There is none, only non-researched opinion. To be described as anything more is ludicrous.


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None of us are professionals Ike, we just give our opinions. Which is what Coach has done here.
 
Coach said:
The senior bowl week and combine are needed, but for now:


1 ) I'm divided between N. Harris and Mac Jones. Either will due. I'll go with Jones QB Jones. Jones looks like a veteran already. That release, pocket mobility, accuracy, ability to go to 2nd and 3rd reads, and decent arm makes it easy on his receivers. 77% competitions, in the SEC, many of which were downfield passes? Un-heard of.


2 ) Center, Johs Meyers. Pouncey needs to be replaced. Could start at guard if needed. From an athletic family. Not likely to be bust.


3 ) Running Back. Jared Patterson. Extremely fast and productive with good open-field vision and moves ( 7.6 yards per carry ) Patterson destroyed has level of competition at Buffalo. On the small side, but oh what upside.


4A ) OLB Weaver. Very productive at Pitt. While I love Highsmith's effort, I'm not sold on him replacing Dupree.


4B) TE Tony Poljan. The 6'7" giant is productive and can play a lot in 2 TE. Ebron is a talent, but a frustrating me first team 12th type of talent, and he can't block for crap


6 ) OT Tyler Vrabel. Son of former Steelers and current head coach Mike. Good movement skills and push in the run game.


7A ) S Jacoby Stevens. Tremendous size, good production. A hitter

7 B) DT/NT John Marshall. You try moving him. A product part time player.
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Problem with Mac is he is an ascending player. Maybe a good NFL QB but is he a franchise QB? Somewhat short body of work as Tua had the earlier nod. I like his completion percentage went up. But can he make those deep throws accurately? Is he athletic enough to extend plays? I think he has worked his way into being a first round prospect but I am on the fence with him being a Franchise QB. With Ben still under center I think he won't be the BPA on the board and more importantly in the Steelers biggest need group. Which would be T, RB,OLBer, and CB.

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Cope said:
None of us are professionals Ike, we just give our opinions. Which is what Coach has done here.
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To be fair his constant braggart opinions and then his selective memory on his original picks will get him ribbed by posters. Sure none are professionals. But the guy thinks he is. You know his history. Half the time he makes **** up, or copies others opinions. It is proven he does little to no research on his own. We also know there is draftniks on this site that put in the film work. So not going to pretend cooch does the same. If he wasn't such a braggart maybe people wouldn't rib him. But what you see now is what Ike is pointing to. He is laying the ground work with QB after QB. Then will brag when one develops. Or will diss a Steelers player with the old well known line of his, "I would have picked". Not like Ike flamed him he was just pointing out tendencies. Remember he ran a good draftnik off a valuable one. Until his demeanor changes I don't see why he should get a free pass. Be lazy and ignorant but don't follow it thinking you are some crazy draftnik that thinks his **** don't stink to the point that he does a better job than Colbert. As I said before the guy gets no pass from me, no reason for him to get one until the day he decides to be less of a twatwaffle.

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Cope said:
None of us are professionals Ike, we just give our opinions. Which is what Coach has done here.
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True Cope. But you, and several other well known posters put in actual film review to form your opinion. Therefore providing validity to your assessment. Not just anecdotal review, from which OutCoached proceeds to enamor the board. It would be best if that poster just preface each post as “it’s only my opinion, and not an evaluation of facts.”


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Coach said:
The senior bowl week and combine are needed, but for now:


1 ) I'm divided between N. Harris and Mac Jones. Either will due. I'll go with Jones QB Jones. Jones looks like a veteran already. That release, pocket mobility, accuracy, ability to go to 2nd and 3rd reads, and decent arm makes it easy on his receivers. 77% competitions, in the SEC, many of which were downfield passes? Un-heard of.


2 ) Center, Johs Meyers. Pouncey needs to be replaced. Could start at guard if needed. From an athletic family. Not likely to be bust.

RUNNING BACK
3 ) Running Back. Jared Patterson. Extremely fast and productive with good open-field vision and moves ( 7.6 yards per carry ) Patterson destroyed has level of competition at Buffalo. On the small side, but oh what upside.


4A ) OLB Weaver. Very productive at Pitt. While I love Highsmith's effort, I'm not sold on him replacing Dupree.


4B) TE Tony Poljan. The 6'7" giant is productive and can play a lot in 2 TE. Ebron is a talent, but a frustrating me first team 12th type of talent, and he can't block for crap


6 ) OT Tyler Vrabel. Son of former Steelers and current head coach Mike. Good movement skills and push in the run game.


7A ) S Jacoby Stevens. Tremendous size, good production. A hitter

7 B) DT/NT John Marshall. You try moving him. A product part time player.
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Coach, just a qwick comparison

Patterson 5ft 9inches 195lbs
Averaged 7.6 YPC...........................college


McFarland 5ft. 8inches 193lbs
2018 7.9ypc...................................college
2019 5.4 YPC ...............................college



I think you have a near clone already on the roster. College stats don't necessarily translate to NFL as you can see (look up) McFarlands NFL average is lower. I don't want a clone / near clone of McFarland but a more diversified / heavier / proven 3 down type back and there are some available and in latter round. Just my two cents





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slashsteel said:
Always BPA. If that is Najee fine. If it is a LT good. If it is a pass rusher or another need fine too. I wouldn't mind Conner as a backup. The rest I can take them or leave them.

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If Najee drops to us, he probably will be BPA. But, as much as the Steelers say they go BPA, it still is BPA at areas of most need. Our top 3 needs will be RB, OL and then probably OLB and CB. Hilton may leave and Haden is getting long in the tooth. He probably only plays at a high level another year or two.
 
TDX27 said:
If Najee is there at 1, I grab him and then probably double-dip on the OL. We need a difference-maker at RB and definitely don't have one in our stable right now. I'll give McFarland an offseason before I make a determination on him but Conner and Snell aren't it.
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I think Harris would be great, but I just think you can get a total stud at running back in the second or third round where the drop off at tackle is substantial once you get past those borderline late first early second guys.
 
I didn’t want to quote Coach’s whole post, but I like a lot of the picks. It’s tough to see no tackle until late in the draft. It’s the biggest hole on the OL heading into next year. Villanueva is an UFA and I doubt they re-resign him. Are you really going to slide Okorafor to the left side and go with him and Banner? That’s probably be one of the worst starting pairs in the league.

Then again, if Mac Jones is there I’d consider making that move.

Love the Weaver pick but would be stunned if he falls that far. The guy checks every box that you want in a football player and is my favorite prospect coming out of Pitt this year. Would also be very interested in Twyman as I think he can be a similar player to Hargrave for this defense.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I like the Mock, Ford. Ideally, I'd like to see a RB in the second but it'd be hard to pass up a long-term option at tight end. Cosmi would be terrific in the first. You also added a DL, edge, and DB, positions I like to pickup in every draft if possible.
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The first draft people who commented seemed to rather wait until later to find a RB to compete. I decided to find one who will test off the charts and really is only going to be around late because of an unfortunate injury. My biggest concerns with going Teague or even a Zamir White this late is the one dimensional factor. I think Harris is an above average pass catcher and would be an asset where most backs are at best developing.
 
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