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Offensive coordinator mid season and won the lwoB repuS? That’s what it’s gonna take for this team. The debacle on the 2 pt conversion was like Haley was trying to throw the game. Also waaaayyy too predictable. Hell I know what they are gonna run most of the time. I hope we hear something today.
 
Yeah well if they were going to can Haley during the season they would have already done it.

Taint happening twatwafflingTrollTransformer.
 
Tomlin won't even fire Haley after this season no matter how it turns out. We can all just stop whining about it (me included) cause it ain't happening.
 
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Ben Roethlisberger: Mike Tomlin Kept Offense Out After Penalty On 2-PT Conversion



BY MATTHEW MARCZI NOVEMBER 13, 2017 AT 07:00 AM
The Pittsburgh Steelers faced a critical moment, something of a gut-check scenario, early in the fourth quarter just after quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was able to complete a seven-yard pass into the end zone for Vance McDonald’s first touchdown while wearing yellow pants.

That touchdown, following an earlier point-after attempt that was blocked, put the Steelers behind the home-team Indianapolis Colts by a 17-15 margin, meaning that they needed to go for a two-point conversion if they wished to tie the game.

They did. And they wanted to be sure that they were right. They used a timeout to make sure they were all on the same page—they weren’t. Le’Veon Bell, at least, didn’t know where he was supposed to be on the first attempt at running a play, and they ended up drawing a delay of game, after a timeout, pushing them back to the seven-yard line.

According to Ben Roethlisberger, offensive coordinator Todd Haley at this point wanted to just kick the extra point. I would imagine that rather few two-point opportunities are still attempted after drawing a penalty, unless it is absolutely necessary.

Joe Rutter quoted Roethlisberger as saying that it was Mike Tomlin, “Coach T”, whose voice he heard overriding Haley, telling him to let the offense go. Considering how generally poor the offense had been—and even how few two-point attempts they have converted over the past two years—it was certainly a gutsy roll of the dice.


But it paid off, and very nearly was essential. Running the two-point play from the seven-yard line, Roethlisberger was able to find Martavis Bryant in the end zone, making a nice catch for the conversion and making it a 17-17 game at the time.

The Steelers drove on their next possession, but stalled in the red zone, which led to a Chris Boswell field goal attempt. He bounced it off the right upright and out, no good. He did not get a chance to redeem himself until the end of the game with time expiring. That kick would have still won the game, but had he missed that as well, they would have gone home losers, rather than gone into overtime.

That was only the second two-point attempt for the Steelers of the year, though the third that they lined up for. They wanted to attempt one in the second game of the season, but they drew a delay of game then, early, and decided to kick the extra point instead.

It was a big moment for the team to get their first conversion of the year, and under rather unusual circumstances, but Roethlisberger and Bryant game through—as did the offensive line, which provided the requisite protection on the play.

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Great catch by Martavis for 2who had a pretty decent day. And, it's time for Haley to go. To much under-performance for too long with an offense loaded with talent.
 
Ummmm, we converted the 2pt try and won the game.

Ravens fired their OC because they lost and didn't attempt a single run with Ray Rice in the 2nd half loss to us.

Not seeing the parallel.
 
i watch this offense , and it changes each week. ANd sometimes.. yesterday included,,, i dont get it.

Then i turn on the *'s vs donkeys and they look like i want our team to look.

Im ashamed to say.

I dont get the missing Nix,, i dont get the patterns we run,, i dont get some of the runs...
 
The Quarterback

CBS flashed a stat that the Steelers are 7-14 against sub-.500 teams on the road since 2012. One of the constants in that struggle has been the inconsistent performance of Ben Roethlisberger.
Recently, I wrote about how he has regressed physically in comparison to similarly aged players at his position. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Alex Smith, and even Josh McCown, have all either maintained, or in most cases even increased, their strength and athleticism since entering the league. Roethlisberger’s speed and mobility have regressed substantially, to the point where he doesn’t practice on most Wednesdays. The coaching staff protects him as if he’s 45 rather than 35. But judging by the way he prepares his body when nobody's looking, it’s not surprising he’s not practicing throughout the week. And it’s a problem.
In a brain-training book that connects the importance of passion to repetition, in order for an individual to reach a level of greatness, there was a story that applies to Ben’s struggles. One of the most difficult positions to attain as a musician is with an elite symphony orchestra. An elite orchestra musician described his need to practice in order to be great like this: “If I don’t practice one day, I notice. If I don’t practice two days, my wife notices. If I don’t practice for three days, my audience notices.”
Roethlisberger might work harder than he did as a young player, the time in which he had the reputation as the last one in/first one out, but the work still doesn’t come easily to him. He’s a gamer, a big-moment junkie. He thrives on adrenaline. But give him a sub-.500 team in less than ideal conditions (not waking up in his own house the morning of a game) and he’s just not dialed in the way he should be. And being that he’s been THE guy over the last 5-7 years, I think it permeates the out-of-sync offense he runs and then trickles down to the rest of the team. They don’t jump out to early 14-0 leads on these teams the way they should. If anything, it’s early turnovers or three-and-outs with the Steelers forced to dig themselves out of early deficits, as they did Sunday.
The gamer came out in Ben on the final drive. The guy who hates to lose took over on the final drive. He looked like the Roethlisberger of old when he shook off pressure and delivered the game-winning completion to Antonio Brown.
I also believe Ben's serious when he expresses concern about CTE and the ability to be there for his kids. The last two weeks I’ve seen him shy away from contact more than I can ever remember in his career. The lack of athletic mobility, combined with his shying away from contact through 58 minutes of the game, are strong indicators that he has one foot in and one foot out at this point.
That’s not the commitment level that can win championships in this league, especially when many of the physical abilities that helped make him special are no longer available.

https://scout.com/nfl/steelers/Arti...s-Offense-In-Need-Of-Major-Overhaul-110409950


Thats your difference between the Steelers and Patriots
 
I don't blame Haley as much as Tomlin to get the team ready to play, lack of blocking, tackling, coverage and execution on the field does not fall on Haley. Yes some of the plays calls are suspect. But Tomlin leads the show, we continue to throw deep which is not working, we don't throw in middle of field or use the TE in receiving , Last I saw Tomlin has a head set on , is in meeting with game plan, and still has the deer in head lights look as if he does not know what to do next.
 
black and gold apex said:
I don't blame Haley as much as Tomlin to get the team ready to play, lack of blocking, tackling, coverage and execution on the field does not fall on Haley. Yes some of the plays calls are suspect. But Tomlin leads the show, we continue to throw deep which is not working, we don't throw in middle of field or use the TE in receiving , Last I saw Tomlin has a head set on , is in meeting with game plan, and still has the deer in head lights look as if he does not know what to do next.
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7-2
 
antdrewjosh said:
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Let me know how that record does in the playoffs against a quality team. That record means squat if you lose your first playoff game. Getting beat by the Bears and Jaguars, having Matt Stafford throw for 400 yards, the GREAT Colts defense shut us down, and people want to point to their record? Nobody that watched this team thru the past 9 games would say that this is the best team in the AFC, not even close.
 
Steeler Pride said:
Let me know how that record does in the playoffs against a quality team. That record means squat if you lose your first playoff game. Getting beat by the Bears and Jaguars, having Matt Stafford throw for 400 yards, the GREAT Colts defense shut us down, and people want to point to their record? Nobody that watched this team thru the past 9 games would say that this is the best team in the AFC, not even close.
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7-2
 
Yes he does...................

AND like many of us here we are right sometime and wrong at other times.


Salute the nation
 
Steeler Pride said:
Let me know how that record does in the playoffs against a quality team. That record means squat if you lose your first playoff game. Getting beat by the Bears and Jaguars, having Matt Stafford throw for 400 yards, the GREAT Colts defense shut us down, and people want to point to their record? Nobody that watched this team thru the past 9 games would say that this is the best team in the AFC, not even close.
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What you say may be true but that 7-2. Is what will contribute to getting us to the play offs.




Salute the nation
 
Steeler Pride said:
Let me know how that record does in the playoffs against a quality team. That record means squat if you lose your first playoff game. Getting beat by the Bears and Jaguars, having Matt Stafford throw for 400 yards, the GREAT Colts defense shut us down, and people want to point to their record? Nobody that watched this team thru the past 9 games would say that this is the best team in the AFC, not even close.
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I have acknowledged we havent played no where near our best ball. We have room for improvement all over the place. But we are 7-2. Anywhere else a team not playing well but still 7-2 the coaches would get some credit. But not here we are 7-2 despite of coaching. We could be 9-0 and still some ***** about the closeness of games or something else
 
Don't think they're gonna fire Haley. I was questioning why they didn't have Bryant in on goal to go plays. Guy is 6 foot ******* 4. There is no defense for that size. Get him on the field and let him make a play like he did on the conversion.

Same logic with the posts that wonder why Nix wasn't out there more to block.

I saw several dropped passes, plays where Bell would get a catch but couldn't evade a lone tackler and just a general whole team hangover. The defense got busted for two deep TD bombs. All this **** needs cleaned up.

I've given up on the offense doing the whole 30 points a game deal. Ben is not the Ben of old, he is an old Ben. Juju has established himself well the last several weeks and that is huge considering AB not putting up his normal numbers. Bryant having a decent game yesterday also helps. The guys need to get open for Ben and he's got to get rid of the ball quick.
 
there will be no upsetting the apple cart at this point when they are first in the division and conference. It's not like the Rooneys to do something like that and CMT surely would not. They like stability and "the status quo".
 
mightyguru said:
Thank God Tomlin overruled Haley on that 2pt conversion. ******* dumbass.
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Haley is the weakest link that is holding this offense back. When my wife can tell you what we are doing on plays just based on the formation I know for a fact that other teams and coaches have it figured out.
 
Record aside, does this not seem like a team in a funk that ought to doing better? This reminds me of another time....

The Chefs were great out of the gate, the Saints are on a midseason roll, the Iggles are the most gconsistent team just past halfway, and the ******* Cheats are figuring their **** out. Blah, blah, blah. Only Bungles give out hats for midseason performance.

Regardless of his physical shape, Ben owes the Steelers, and fans, nothing.

It was 12 years ago that Ben dragged the Bus to his final game.
Maybe JuJu can do the same for Ben?
They could go 2-2 over the next 4 games, confusing us all.

I care about December and January.
I would relish Ben going into Foxboro in late Jan, ripping the electronics out of his helmet, running the hurry-up all game and beating the piss out of Marsha and Darth Hoodie.
And then he pulls the Elway/Bus routine the day after the SB.




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