Finally, an explanation on why so many injuries

[Stryker]

Ankle, knee, bone, and joint injuries can not be attributed to any work out. They happen.

Soft tissue injury can be avoided with strength exercising, stretching, and proper conditioning. Groins, Hammys, quads are the most common, though a traumatic tear can still occur to soft tissue, if the conditions are right. I'd call Cam one of the best conditioned athletes we have. Tearing a pec is not easy to do, and would have nothing to do with his preparation, even though it is soft tissue.

I only pulled my groin once as a goaltender in 20 years. And it was because I didn't properly stretch after using my inner groin after slack lining the day before. Had a game the next day and pop!

 

[POP]

Of course there is no link, you don't need one. You have infinite knowledge of well....everything that goes on.

And you've known for years but didn't know it was still true? So....then you haven't known. You probably haven't even seen the weight room I gather. I have, that equipment costs possibly more than 6 figures.

Your ignorance is bright and shinning. There are so many ways I could shred you right here I don't even know where to start. Let's just say, stop while you still are not spitting your teeth out like chicklets. First of all, do you know what an "annual budget" is? That does not include the cost of building the gym to begin with; they are the annual costs they spend per year, not up front. And, yes, I have been in their gym, but not the new one. And it was an arm pit. We've seen much better high school gyms that their old one at 3 Rivers.

 

[POP]

]Ankle, knee, bone, and joint injuries can not be attributed to any work out. They happen.

I never said "attributed to." I am talking about the lack of specific training that helps PREVENT injuries. Major difference.

Soft tissue injury can be avoided with strength exercising, stretching, and proper conditioning.

And how are the Steelers at making sure they are employing state-of-the-art training to prevent such injuries? Or do they just take a lazy, uninspired approach?

Groins, Hammys, quads are the most common, though a traumatic tear can still occur to soft tissue, if the conditions are right. I'd call Cam one of the best conditioned athletes we have. Tearing a pec is not easy to do, and would have nothing to do with his preparation, even though it is soft tissue.

I know a world-renowned expert who would disagree.

I only pulled my groin once as a goaltender in 20 years. And it was because I didn't properly stretch after using my inner groin after slack lining the day before. Had a game the next day and pop!

I was fully warmed up, half way through a game, and took a pitch, sweeping to the left, on my way to the end-zone, and POP!!!!! it was like I got shot. I collapsed and even fumbled the ball. I kept re-injuring that groin for months after that.

 

[POP]

Hate to break it to ya but other teams experience the same kind of injuries that we do.

Hate to break it to you, but the ones implementing leading-edge techniques have less injuries than we do. And, no, implementing these techniques are no guarantee that players won't get hurt, but they certainly make the odds better. And, yea, Harrison has been hurt, but has he missed as much time as those China dolls, JJ and Shazier?

 

[POP]

When you say the annual weight room budget is less than a night out to dinner, are we talking McDonald's or Steak 'n Shake?

Ruth Chris

 

[mdk2]

Hate to break it to you, but the ones implementing leading-edge techniques have less injuries than we do. And, no, implementing these techniques are no guarantee that players won't get hurt, but they certainly make the odds better. And, yea, Harrison has been hurt, but has he missed as much time as those China dolls, JJ and Shazier?

What teams have this "leading-edge technique?"

 

[Ike Kelly]

Ah yes, the personal attacks appear, your calling card. True to your DNA and as immature as your attempt to sound competent on certain subjects. Not like it matters, your opinion of what ignorance is goes as so far as what you think you know factually. Which is limited by your posting history.

Personally, I don't think you could carry a meaningful intelligent conversation with a grade school student, so that is probably the reason why you wouldn't know where to start "shredding". "Spitting your teeth out like chicklets".? What are you 12?

As for you asking me do I know what an annual budget is. Yes I do, I am very familiar with term, it's purpose and how organize to meet one. Having had to for 30 years.

You made comments about the annual weight room budget used to being less than than the cost of dinner.

Then, admit you haven't been to the facility itself, but it appears you now were talking about Three Rivers. Which was last seen over 15 years ago, and has nothing to do with the topic at hand. If you think my ignorance is bright and shining, then your idiocy is blinding. Maybe your friend can get you up to date with what being used now to familiarize yourself with the topic you think you know something about.



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[POP]

What teams have this "leading-edge technique?"

It's easier to track that by looking at who their strength and conditioning coach is, rather than trying to track what techniques they are using. Tom Myslinski, of the Jags, is pretty well known for being a good strength and conditioning coach. Buddy Morris is another one. Pats had lots of injuries last year so, per usual, Belichick did something about it, instead of just being lazy and doing nothing.

http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2016/01/patriots_harold_nash.html

Now? They only have 1 player who did not practice in the last few days. That is a short injury list.

Robert Gronkowski TE -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Martellus Bennett TE -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Alan Branch DT -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Julian Edelman WR -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Chris Hogan WR -- Limited Participation in Practice

How is ours?

Player
Position
Injury
Practice Status
Game Status
Cameron Heyward DE -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Darrius Heyward-Bey WR -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
LaShawn Pouncey C -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Shamarko Thomas S -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Markus Wheaton WR -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
DeAngelo Williams RB -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Sammie Coates WR -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Jordan Dangerfield S -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Ladarius Green TE -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Xavier Grimble TE -- Limited Participation in Practice --

 

[Steeler Pride]

It's easier to track that by looking at who their strength and conditioning coach is, rather than trying to track what techniques they are using. Tom Myslinski, of the Jags, is pretty well known for being a good strength and conditioning coach. Buddy Morris is another one. Pats had lots of injuries last year so, per usual, Belichick did something about it, instead of just being lazy and doing nothing.

http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2016/01/patriots_harold_nash.html

Now? They only have 1 player who did not practice in the last few days. That is a short injury list.

Robert Gronkowski TE -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Martellus Bennett TE -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Alan Branch DT -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Julian Edelman WR -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Chris Hogan WR -- Limited Participation in Practice

How is ours?

Player
Position
Injury
Practice Status
Game Status
Cameron Heyward DE -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Darrius Heyward-Bey WR -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
LaShawn Pouncey C -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Shamarko Thomas S -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Markus Wheaton WR -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
DeAngelo Williams RB -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Sammie Coates WR -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Jordan Dangerfield S -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Ladarius Green TE -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Xavier Grimble TE -- Limited Participation in Practice --

lol, I think 2 people on that list have soft tissue injuries...the rest have contact injuries that no amount of space age training will prevent. Taking a sample size of 1 team in 1 week is ******* pointless and proves nothing.

 

[POP]

Ah yes, the personal attacks appear, your calling card. True to your DNA and as immature as your attempt to sound competent on certain subjects. Not like it matters, your opinion of what ignorance is goes as so far as what you think you know factually. Which is limited by your posting history.

Awwwww, someone starts talking **** and when hit back he cries about it. What a hypocrite.

Personally, I don't think you could carry a meaningful intelligent conversation with a grade school student, so that is probably the reason why you wouldn't know where to start "shredding". "Spitting your teeth out like chicklets".? What are you 12?

Wow, good one. The old "middle school," young age move. Let me guess: You are not known as sharp or witty amongst family and friends? How did I know?

As for you asking me do I know what an annual budget is. Yes I do, I am very familiar with term, it's purpose and how organize to meet one. Having had to for 30 years.

You made comments about the annual weight room budget used to being less than than the cost of dinner.

That's because it was, dimm dimm.

Then, admit you haven't been to the facility itself,

No the new one, but I was at the old one and it was garbage.

Go ahead and claim to know more than me on the subject; this should be fun.

 

[mdk2]

It's easier to track that by looking at who their strength and conditioning coach is, rather than trying to track what techniques they are using. Tom Myslinski, of the Jags, is pretty well known for being a good strength and conditioning coach. Buddy Morris is another one. Pats had lots of injuries last year so, per usual, Belichick did something about it, instead of just being lazy and doing nothing.

http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2016/01/patriots_harold_nash.html

Now? They only have 1 player who did not practice in the last few days. That is a short injury list.

Robert Gronkowski TE -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Martellus Bennett TE -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Alan Branch DT -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Julian Edelman WR -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Chris Hogan WR -- Limited Participation in Practice

How is ours?

Player
Position
Injury
Practice Status
Game Status
Cameron Heyward DE -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Darrius Heyward-Bey WR -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
LaShawn Pouncey C -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Shamarko Thomas S -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Markus Wheaton WR -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
DeAngelo Williams RB -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Sammie Coates WR -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Jordan Dangerfield S -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Ladarius Green TE -- Limited Participation in Practice --
Xavier Grimble TE -- Limited Participation in Practice --

So two teams in the NFL use this technique? One of which is one of the worst organizations in the league... yeah, seems legit.

Here's Jag's injury report for this week:


Beachum, Kelvin T Knee Questionable
Smith, Chris DE Eye Questionable
Walters, Bryan WR Concussion Questionable
Linkenbach, JeffT Concussion Questionable
Wolff, EarlS Hamstring Questionable
Gray, JonasRB Quadriceps Questionable
Washington, TonyWR Hamstring Questionable
Bowanko, LukeC Hip PUP List
Woodard, JonathanDE Achilles PUP List

 

[Steeler Pride]

Go ahead and claim to know more than me on the subject; this should be fun.

I'm your Huckleberry.

1. The Steelers weight room is not at Heinz field, it is located at the UPMC Sports Performance Complex.
2. A good friend that also went to Arch. School with me, Rob Cibrano who worked for L.D. Astorino and Associates was one of the design Architects on the UPMC Sports Performance Complex.
3. The budget for the Weight Room, Training Pools, and Strength and Conditioning portion of the project was $5.6 Million Dollars.
4. The Average gymnasium like a typical Golds Gym or Planet Fitness is typically around $400,000
5. Feel free to read the following:

In addition to sports injury management, the center also provides a comprehensive Sports Performance Program that is individualized to each athlete, concentrating on achieving optimal athletic performance while preventing injury. The program usually begins with advanced neuro-musculoskeletal assessment in the center’s Neuromuscular Research Laboratory.[16] Specific components of the program may include strengthening and conditioning, improving speed, agility and joint stability, identifying and managing any potential areas of weakness, injury prevention, sports massage therapy and nutrition counseling as well as sport-specific skills training. The Sports Performance Program serves a daily clientele with individualized goals for personal fitness and athletic performance ranging from world-famous elite and professional athletes to nationally known college athletes to local high school and recreational athletes. The Center also provides all of its services to many non-athletes with other types of musculoskeletal injuries related to physical activity.[17]

Hundreds of elite athletes and famous individuals have been served at the UPMC Sport Performance Complex including, to name a few, golfer Greg Norman, Tour de France winners Miguel Indurain and Greg LeMond, wrestler Kurt Angle, hockey star Mario Lemieux, hurdler Roger Kingdom, football stars Dan Marino and Jerome Bettis, ballet star Mikhail Baryshnikov, actress Kathleen Turner, along with other athletes from the Panthers, Steelers, Duquesne Dukes, Pittsburgh Pirates, and Pittsburgh Penguins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPMC_Sports_Performance_Complex

6. You know NOTHING about the subject at hand, so quit running your mouth before your tic tacs fall out.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I'm your Huckleberry.

1. The Steelers weight room is not at Heinz field, it is located at the UPMC Sports Performance Complex.
2. A good friend that also went to Arch. School with me, Rob Cibrano who worked for L.D. Astorino and Associates was one of the design Architects on the UPMC Sports Performance Complex.
3. The budget for the Weight Room, Training Pools, and Strength and Conditioning portion of the project was $5.6 Million Dollars.
4. The Average gymnasium like a typical Golds Gym or Planet Fitness is typically around $400,000
5. Feel free to read the following:

In addition to sports injury management, the center also provides a comprehensive Sports Performance Program that is individualized to each athlete, concentrating on achieving optimal athletic performance while preventing injury. The program usually begins with advanced neuro-musculoskeletal assessment in the center’s Neuromuscular Research Laboratory.[16] Specific components of the program may include strengthening and conditioning, improving speed, agility and joint stability, identifying and managing any potential areas of weakness, injury prevention, sports massage therapy and nutrition counseling as well as sport-specific skills training. The Sports Performance Program serves a daily clientele with individualized goals for personal fitness and athletic performance ranging from world-famous elite and professional athletes to nationally known college athletes to local high school and recreational athletes. The Center also provides all of its services to many non-athletes with other types of musculoskeletal injuries related to physical activity.[17]

Hundreds of elite athletes and famous individuals have been served at the UPMC Sport Performance Complex including, to name a few, golfer Greg Norman, Tour de France winners Miguel Indurain and Greg LeMond, wrestler Kurt Angle, hockey star Mario Lemieux, hurdler Roger Kingdom, football stars Dan Marino and Jerome Bettis, ballet star Mikhail Baryshnikov, actress Kathleen Turner, along with other athletes from the Panthers, Steelers, Duquesne Dukes, Pittsburgh Pirates, and Pittsburgh Penguins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPMC_Sports_Performance_Complex

6. You know NOTHING about the subject at hand, so quit running your mouth before your tic tacs fall out.

Game



Game / Set / Match !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be careful or you will hurt his "EGO"




Salute the nation

 

[mdk2]

I'm your Huckleberry.

1. The Steelers weight room is not at Heinz field, it is located at the UPMC Sports Performance Complex.
2. A good friend that also went to Arch. School with me, Rob Cibrano who worked for L.D. Astorino and Associates was one of the design Architects on the UPMC Sports Performance Complex.
3. The budget for the Weight Room, Training Pools, and Strength and Conditioning portion of the project was $5.6 Million Dollars.
4. The Average gymnasium like a typical Golds Gym or Planet Fitness is typically around $400,000
5. Feel free to read the following:

In addition to sports injury management, the center also provides a comprehensive Sports Performance Program that is individualized to each athlete, concentrating on achieving optimal athletic performance while preventing injury. The program usually begins with advanced neuro-musculoskeletal assessment in the center’s Neuromuscular Research Laboratory.[16] Specific components of the program may include strengthening and conditioning, improving speed, agility and joint stability, identifying and managing any potential areas of weakness, injury prevention, sports massage therapy and nutrition counseling as well as sport-specific skills training. The Sports Performance Program serves a daily clientele with individualized goals for personal fitness and athletic performance ranging from world-famous elite and professional athletes to nationally known college athletes to local high school and recreational athletes. The Center also provides all of its services to many non-athletes with other types of musculoskeletal injuries related to physical activity.[17]

Hundreds of elite athletes and famous individuals have been served at the UPMC Sport Performance Complex including, to name a few, golfer Greg Norman, Tour de France winners Miguel Indurain and Greg LeMond, wrestler Kurt Angle, hockey star Mario Lemieux, hurdler Roger Kingdom, football stars Dan Marino and Jerome Bettis, ballet star Mikhail Baryshnikov, actress Kathleen Turner, along with other athletes from the Panthers, Steelers, Duquesne Dukes, Pittsburgh Pirates, and Pittsburgh Penguins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPMC_Sports_Performance_Complex

6. You know NOTHING about the subject at hand, so quit running your mouth before your tic tacs fall out.

Ouch... this thread can be closed now.

 

[MTC]

To add some respectability to PoP's observation, if guys are lifting heavy on a weekly basis, there is a chance that their connective tissues are not recovered properly. Pro football is a brutal game with some uncanny large athletes. The weight they push to stay top notch often puts strain on a casual gym goer. So I'd imagine an nfl athlete tries to lift max weekly to keep on getting stronger. Again just a theory so don't take this as value. But could attribute to joint injuries that have been common

 

[Ron Burgundy]

So the Steelers don't have a strength and conditioning coach?

If they do he should be fired and replaced with Deebo.

 

[Ike Kelly]

Awwwww, someone starts talking **** and when hit back he cries about it. What a hypocrite.



Wow, good one. The old "middle school," young age move. Let me guess: You are not known as sharp or witty amongst family and friends? How did I know?


That's because it was, dimm dimm.



No the new one, but I was at the old one and it was garbage.

Go ahead and claim to know more than me on the subject; this should be fun.

I'll bring it down to your level, and so not to hurt your fragile psych. Even more so I'll do it without profanity. I also encourage you to familiarize yourself with the definition of a hypocrite because you have no idea. This is an open forum for which any member can provide an opinion. Which is perfectly acceptable as long as it falls within the rules of the board and overseen by the Mods. Everyone can agree/disagree or agree to disagree. From what you have presented on this board on history would be considered baseless opinionated rants, nothing more. Your citation of data or proof to the majority of rambling and incoherent musings you post is minimum to nil. It's possible you bring this narcissistic attitude to your postings because your probably feel the need to be understood. This is purely baseless but probably only your therapist knows why.

"middle school, young age move"? Seriously, you may in fact be an adult, but you definitely act like a child. Again possibly attributed to your yearning to be understood, as you definitely appear to be unable to converse like a responsible adult. Trust me I have no ill will towards you, Your attempts to make yourself feel superior by questioning or belittling my or anyone else intelligence or social status might as well be a bug stain on a windshield. Your words are empty and mean even less. I actually feel sorry you feel the need have this type of attention. Because your ego definitely cannot be supported by the baseless opinions or "claimed knowledge" you constantly regurgitate time and time again.

But to the point, you ridiculously pointed out the team's annual weight room budget used to be less than the cost of dinner. This was in response to your rambling that the Steelers don't value leading edge training techniques and use workout machines rather than free weights. Even supplying James Harrison as an example, which led credence you were implying the workout facility used in the last decade or so. You couldn't provide proof of this point when called on it and just commented on this fact you've "known for years", BUT didn't know if it was still true.

You then enthusiastically comment on what an annual budget is, what it includes and not includes. But admit you never even been to the UMPC facility and backtrack saying you were talking about Three Rivers weight room, last used over 15 years ago (if so, why bring up 92, he never played there), and not the multi-million dollar facility that the Steelers and Univ. of Pitt share.

You want to argue about the organization's current workout program ideology but use the facility that hasn't existed in 15 years as a basis? One thing is for sure, you own a lot of wading boots, because you shovel a ton.

As Curtain78 eloquently explained with simple facts, your knowledge on this thread's topic of the franchise's "vision for the team's workout program" is centered upon a baseless opinionated point of view. Just like the majority of your posts on this board. But that is ok, you have the right to post them, but don't try to pretend you think you know more than you really do. So stop embarrassing yourself and enjoy your dinner at the cost of Three River's weight room (in the year 2000 dollars).

Kudo's for Curtain for finding the info so quick.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Here is the thing about this Message Board. It is the greatest MB ever !!!! I mean that as I've been posting here forever. It has all kinds of poster (s) that have come and gone but it's the knowledge of them that makes is so great. Being able to back what you say weather by a "link" or claim of rumor/opinion up front has kept this place a front runner. It would do coache's such as Tombert and crew to check in here once in awhile. The obvious gets stated as well as the way out stretch of things too. Personally I don't have any regular TV and reley mostly SOLELY on this site for all my STEELERS' information. Quite often that information shows up here before many other paid outlets. I thank you to all, yes even to those who repeat less than stellar information, but none the less to all. The highly informed, the GRAMMER correct, the jokester so, the eventful chicken littles, yes even POPs has a place here. I'm just glad that when the both the Romans conquered Gettisburgh and the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, either decided not to destroy this NATIONAL TREASURE of ours known as the STEELER NATION .com



Salute the nation and those involved in keeping this site above the line.

 

[bermudasteel]

If I wear shades at night - can I be hypnotized???

 

[POP]

lol, I think 2 people on that list have soft tissue injuries...the rest have contact injuries that no amount of space age training will prevent. Taking a sample size of 1 team in 1 week is ******* pointless and proves nothing.

You have no idea how many of your assumptions are not true. There are entire power lifting teams with almost zero back or knee injuries and it's a direct result of the leading-edge techniques they practice. And it all applies to football as well, but the super smart Steelers are not interested.

 

[POP]

I'll bring it down to your level, and so not to hurt your fragile psych. Even more so I'll do it without profanity. I also encourage you to familiarize yourself with the definition of a hypocrite because you have no idea. This is an open forum for which any member can provide an opinion. Which is perfectly acceptable as long as it falls within the rules of the board and overseen by the Mods. Everyone can agree/disagree or agree to disagree. From what you have presented on this board on history would be considered baseless opinionated rants, nothing more. Your citation of data or proof to the majority of rambling and incoherent musings you post is minimum to nil. It's possible you bring this narcissistic attitude to your postings because your probably feel the need to be understood. This is purely baseless but probably only your therapist knows why.

"middle school, young age move"? Seriously, you may in fact be an adult, but you definitely act like a child. Again possibly attributed to your yearning to be understood, as you definitely appear to be unable to converse like a responsible adult. Trust me I have no ill will towards you, Your attempts to make yourself feel superior by questioning or belittling my or anyone else intelligence or social status might as well be a bug stain on a windshield. Your words are empty and mean even less. I actually feel sorry you feel the need have this type of attention. Because your ego definitely cannot be supported by the baseless opinions or "claimed knowledge" you constantly regurgitate time and time again.

But to the point, you ridiculously pointed out the team's annual weight room budget used to be less than the cost of dinner. This was in response to your rambling that the Steelers don't value leading edge training techniques and use workout machines rather than free weights. Even supplying James Harrison as an example, which led credence you were implying the workout facility used in the last decade or so. You couldn't provide proof of this point when called on it and just commented on this fact you've "known for years", BUT didn't know if it was still true.

You then enthusiastically comment on what an annual budget is, what it includes and not includes. But admit you never even been to the UMPC facility and backtrack saying you were talking about Three Rivers weight room, last used over 15 years ago (if so, why bring up 92, he never played there), and not the multi-million dollar facility that the Steelers and Univ. of Pitt share.

You want to argue about the organization's current workout program ideology but use the facility that hasn't existed in 15 years as a basis? One thing is for sure, you own a lot of wading boots, because you shovel a ton.

As Curtain78 eloquently explained with simple facts, your knowledge on this thread's topic of the franchise's "vision for the team's workout program" is centered upon a baseless opinionated point of view. Just like the majority of your posts on this board. But that is ok, you have the right to post them, but don't try to pretend you think you know more than you really do. So stop embarrassing yourself and enjoy your dinner at the cost of Three River's weight room (in the year 2000 dollars).

Kudo's for Curtain for finding the info so quick.

Your ignorance is so overwhelming that it is pointless to even respond. It's like taking a fight with a 5-year-old seriously.

How many meetings and conversations have you had with world-renowned trainers, including NFL guys? Let me guess: that would be a big fat zero, wouldn't it?

By the way, I only said that I was at the gym at 3 Rivers, but I know others who have been to the current one. I am hardly basing my assertions on only from my visit. I am up-to-date with their current program. I don't have to be there in order to know. Why am I wasting my time with such a slackjaw as yourself? You know nothing about training for athletic performance or injury prevention. Not a single thing. You're just some know-nothing Yinzer who gnashes his teeth and howls at the moon while in the state of pure ignorance.

 

[TWEEK1106]

If their warm-ups for either training camp or pregame are an indication of how they typically stretch and prepare their bodies for strenuous exercise then you don't really hot ask why they're injured so often.

Can't half *** the warm-ups and stretching without inviting injury.

 

[hamster]

First thread in Football that I have opened since last game day, and I see POP being a douchnozzle. Some things never change.

 

[POP]

1. The Steelers weight room is not at Heinz field, it is located at the UPMC Sports Performance Complex.

When did I say it was at Heinz? I just said old one was at 3 Rivers. Can you not grasp the difference?

2. A good friend that also went to Arch. School with me, Rob Cibrano who worked for L.D. Astorino and Associates was one of the design Architects on the UPMC Sports Performance Complex.

Whoopity doo. What's that prove?

3. The budget for the Weight Room, Training Pools, and Strength and Conditioning portion of the project was $5.6 Million Dollars.

Yes, and it is shared with Pitt athletics as well.

4. The Average gymnasium like a typical Golds Gym or Planet Fitness is typically around $400,000

Zippity doo dah! And this proves what again? It is relative how?

5. Feel free to read the following:

In addition to sports injury management, the center also provides a comprehensive Sports Performance Program that is individualized to each athlete, concentrating on achieving optimal athletic performance while preventing injury. The program usually begins with advanced neuro-musculoskeletal assessment in the center’s Neuromuscular Research Laboratory.[16] Specific components of the program may include strengthening and conditioning, improving speed, agility and joint stability, identifying and managing any potential areas of weakness, injury prevention, sports massage therapy and nutrition counseling as well as sport-specific skills training. The Sports Performance Program serves a daily clientele with individualized goals for personal fitness and athletic performance ranging from world-famous elite and professional athletes to nationally known college athletes to local high school and recreational athletes. The Center also provides all of its services to many non-athletes with other types of musculoskeletal injuries related to physical activity.[17]

Hundreds of elite athletes and famous individuals have been served at the UPMC Sport Performance Complex including, to name a few, golfer Greg Norman, Tour de France winners Miguel Indurain and Greg LeMond, wrestler Kurt Angle, hockey star Mario Lemieux, hurdler Roger Kingdom, football stars Dan Marino and Jerome Bettis, ballet star Mikhail Baryshnikov, actress Kathleen Turner, along with other athletes from the Panthers, Steelers, Duquesne Dukes, Pittsburgh Pirates, and Pittsburgh Penguins.

Nice PR piece. Now what does that prove again? How does that prove that the STEELERS employ state-of-the-art training regimens that address the common error in the lack of posterior chain development? Do they use any Inverse Curl machines which great decrease hamstring and knee injuries? Do you even realize how they make their new equipment purchases decisions? I am sure you haven't a clue.

6. You know NOTHING about the subject at hand, so quit running your mouth before your tic tacs fall out.

If I know nothing on the subject, by comparison, your knowledge is at the infantile level. Again, on what criteria do they make new equipment purchasing decisions? Come on, you think you know everything, so spill it.

And what is their general protocol on training, and how antiquated are their programs? How many meetings and meals have you had with world-renown trainers?

 

[Litos]

First thread in Football that I have opened since last game day, and I see POP being a douchnozzle. Some things never change.

I don't know why did I open this thread, now I'm wondering why it even exists