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Finally, an explanation on why so many injuries

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The Steelers apply very little vision to their team workout program.

In case you didn't notice, players who take on their own workout regime are the ones who are not getting injured, even the nearly-40-year-old Harrison stays healthy, while we experience more injuries than seemingly any team.

Why would they not take training more seriously? Just not interested in it. Apparently, they just don't value leading-edge training techniques. They use far more machines than free weights, and, as most of us know, free weights are far superior to machines. Just ask James Harrison.
 
And yet Harrison is at every offseason workout session in Pittsburgh allowed under the CBA. Where is the link validating your claim that the Steelers organization apply very little vision to their team workout program? Troy Polomalu took his own workout routine later in his career. He was injured more during that period.
 
There is no link because the info. came from a personal friend who calls on NFL and Div 1 teams. But I've known this for years, just didn't know if it was still true. Annual weight room budget used to be less than a night out to dinner.
 
POP said:
There is no link because the info. came from a personal friend who calls on NFL and Div 1 teams. But I've known this for years, just didn't know if it was still true. Annual weight room budget used to be less than a night out to dinner.
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So you have no proof to back up your statement. Gotcha.
 
Yep proof! If Ben lifts more free weights freak injury to knee certainly doesn't happen. D Will's knee, obviously using too many machines. Wheaton's bum shoulder definitely a product of training practices. Coates broken fingers-damn machines don't make those fingers as strong as free weights do. Pouncey another finger screwed by those damn machines. Man I could just keep going, but pretty sure y'all get the point.
 
Of course there is no link, you don't need one. You have infinite knowledge of well....everything that goes on.

And you've known for years but didn't know it was still true? So....then you haven't known. You probably haven't even seen the weight room I gather. I have, that equipment costs possibly more than 6 figures.
 
Outside of strained muscles, very few injuries are the result of strength and conditioning. If someone falls sideways on your foot and you break a bone in your foot, sprain your ankle, or break a bone in your leg, what conditioning is supposed to prevent that?
 
^Logic^

Would also consider all the weird differences in times between games could factor. Would need to do more research to substantiate but as a person that used to train rigorously routine is huge, as is recovery time after enduring much contact. Can't think Thursday games are helping.

Put football back to just Sundays and no team plays more than 1-2 Monday nights (use bye if team playing a 2nd Monday) and expand rosters to allow 53 active with free movement from ps to active roster on game days to replace players who have been ruled as OUT on injury report.

Things a league commissioner would look into if actually concerned about player safety rather than $
 
POP said:
There is no link because the info. came from a PERSONAL FRIENDwho calls on NFL and Div 1 teams. But I've known this for years, just didn't know if it was still true. Annual weight room budget used to be less than a night out to dinner.
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Does this personal friend have an EGO ometer too???




Salute the nation
 
Pop although rumors can be true this board is a proof type of board. Nobody is excluded from that as I have had threads blownup as well.


Keep in mind what I hear and what joe blow hears can be all bullshit as well.

I have been to enough training camps to see they can be pretty lackadaisical. So it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. Still a theory none the less................
 
So the Steelers don't have a strength and conditioning coach?
 
Any of you guys follow track and field? If you do, you know that the top sprinters are highly conditioned athletes. However, they can tweek something at any minute and then they are done.

It seems to me that too many football players are training like sprinters and not like football players. I don't know if it is a good thing to be so "highly conditioned" as a football player. Maybe this year around training isn't the best thing. Maybe they need to get away from football for a bit in the offseason. I remember reading about Jack Ham playing lots of racquetball in the offseason or Mike Wagner doing a lot of skiing. Maybe the body needs to just do something different to stay in shape for a bit.

Who knows, it's all theory.
 
If I were a player conditioning would be my absolute priority outside of my playbook. Strength,power,flexibility,mobility,explosiveness,anaerobic endurance . Each position has it's priorities. Making your body as resilient as possible should be number one. Any great player for a long period time has done this . Jerry Rice was legendary for his workouts. James Harrison as well.

I'm certain the steelers have a CSCS, but off-season training isn't mandatory.
 
I can see where POP is coming from and also Steelr4evr. I think it has to do with our training program and the off-season training that isn't mandatory. These guys are in a profession that you MUST train year round. Even if you take a month off, you are behind the 8 ball. You can slow down your training for a month or so but you can't stop. They push themselves too hard during the season to take any real time off during the off-season. The players have to want it bad enough to truly train year round.
 
DBS1970 said:
So the Steelers don't have a strength and conditioning coach?
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That's NOT what he's saying. What's he's trying to tell you is Suzie is HOT and the hoodie knows all. Rain drops out of the sky and of coarse it only takes three licks to get to the center of a tootsie pop. Oh and I believe there is something about not paying any money for weights in the weight room.



Salute the nation
 
POP said:
The Steelers apply very little vision to their team workout program.

In case you didn't notice, players who take on their own workout regime are the ones who are not getting injured, even the nearly-40-year-old Harrison stays healthy, while we experience more injuries than seemingly any team.

Why would they not take training more seriously? Just not interested in it. Apparently, they just don't value leading-edge training techniques. They use far more machines than free weights, and, as most of us know, free weights are far superior to machines. Just ask James Harrison.
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Hate to break it to ya but other teams experience the same kind of injuries that we do.
 
James Harrison has had several injures and missed games over the last six years.
 
diver said:
Any of you guys follow track and field? If you do, you know that the top sprinters are highly conditioned athletes. However, they can tweek something at any minute and then they are done.

It seems to me that too many football players are training like sprinters and not like football players. I don't know if it is a good thing to be so "highly conditioned" as a football player. Maybe this year around training isn't the best thing. Maybe they need to get away from football for a bit in the offseason. I remember reading about Jack Ham playing lots of racquetball in the offseason or Mike Wagner doing a lot of skiing. Maybe the body needs to just do something different to stay in shape for a bit.

Who knows, it's all theory.
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I love the idea of alternative training as an option. I believe the last time we won a SB was after the year in which our OL coach put the guys through a boxing regimen in the offseason, any season which ends with a quote like "who's laughing now O line" by our franchise QB hoisting a Lombardi was a good season.
 
When you say the annual weight room budget is less than a night out to dinner, are we talking McDonald's or Steak 'n Shake?
 
Stainless said:
When you say the annual weight room budget is less than a night out to dinner, are we talking McDonald's or Steak 'n Shake?
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CiCi's Pizza Buffet, 3.99 per person and all you can eat. :laugh:
 
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