Nice. And just a small % of his highlight reel.
Ex-rat Bart Scott says comparing Polamalu to Ed Reed is disrespectful
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Nice. And just a small % of his highlight reel.
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I have a Chevy S-10 and a lot of the time I'm the only one in the parking lot with one of them...............
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Troy could have done what Ed did, hang back and cherry pick for INTs.
Ed could not have played in the box like Troy did. Troy was far more versatile and valuable.
Ed could not have played in the box like Troy did. Troy was far more versatile and valuable.
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Troy had more solo tackles in less games, more assists, more QB hits, more tackles for loss, more sacks, more forced fumbles (6 categories)
Reed more fumbles recovered, more returned fumble yards, more INTs, more int. return yards, more return int. TDs (4 categories)
Comparing a strong safety to a free safety. Hard to compare.
However, Troy never got knocked the F out by a WR, therefore, Troy wins. Next.
Reed more fumbles recovered, more returned fumble yards, more INTs, more int. return yards, more return int. TDs (4 categories)
Comparing a strong safety to a free safety. Hard to compare.
However, Troy never got knocked the F out by a WR, therefore, Troy wins. Next.
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lol exactly. as if the guy was trying to put some schmuck like mike mitchell in the same boat as reed.
Reed was a great center fielder and cover guy, Troy was great at every level of the D, Reed could not play near the LOS like Troy
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part of the ratbird's argument was about eddie sitting back there baiting the qb to throw to a guy and then making a play on the ball...as if Troy never did that...
Like Vince Williams tweeted, at times it was like God whispered the play into Troy's ear....he just knew where to be.
what other safety could start the play at the LOS in a blitz look and finish by breaking up a pass deep down field on the sideline
Troy could play Ed's game...but eddie could NEVER play Troy's game
Like Vince Williams tweeted, at times it was like God whispered the play into Troy's ear....he just knew where to be.
what other safety could start the play at the LOS in a blitz look and finish by breaking up a pass deep down field on the sideline
Troy could play Ed's game...but eddie could NEVER play Troy's game
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Meh.....when I see Troy I just see a player with a large head.
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He is explaining both of their responsibilities in their particular schemes as being different and Reeds more difficult. He has trouble explaining it coherently which is whatever. But to use the word disrespectful. Come on. He says they both are HOF players. That is where it ends. It's a Manning Vs. Brady arguement. Who gives a ****. It's what each defense needs.
I disagree that Troy could have played the deep cover one or two safety and been half the player he was. It would have neutered his game. It is an apples to oranges comparison. Troy was a hybrid safety linebacker that could run with anyone. And one thing that Scott is correct about is that Troy was free to do what he did because of Clark's discipline and ability to play off of Troy's freelance. Ryan Clark is criminally under valued. I would say that when Reed was at his height you threw deep third to half the field at your own risk. Where as with Troy was like having an extra linebacker Vs. the run that could cover a lot of inside receivers and tight ends. He also created a lot of indecision that landed a lot of those blitzes home. Its like comparing a great traditional drop back passer to a great athletic QB. They are two totally different players.
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What Troy did on the field was amazing. Then factor in his oversized head. Seriously, if Ed Reed had a head like that he would fall over trying to cover a lineman reporting as eligible, let alone fly over lines like superman and ballhawking all over the field like Troy did.
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Whoever that poster was that claimed TROY had to big a head to succeed in the nfl,................. WELL, lets just say he might not live it down for awhile...............
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Troy would've been great if I was the free safety
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I respect your knowledge of the NFL game and football in general from all of your experience, but lemme interject here for a moment: Troy Polumalu is one of the most athletic & physically gifted NFL players to ever play the game. He ran a 4.33 forty at 205 lbs to start. But I don't know many other players in NFL history who could play just about any position on the defense, minus defensive line.
He had the aggressive nature & body to play linebacker. He obviously had the instincts and smarts to play either Safety. And he had the speed, fluid hips, smooth back-pedal & incredible closing speed to even be a decent corner if he wanted to be IMO.
I'll argue he's one of the most physically gifted athletes to ever play in the NFL. And he had incredible instincts & mind for the game. You go ahead and tell me where I'm wrong here. I'll listen.
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It's difficult to compare the two because they were used so much differently in their respective schemes.
I think the consensus view among those associated with the league is that Reed was better. I don't necessarily agree with that, but Scott isn't alone in his view.
There seems to be a belief that Troy was somewhat of a liability in coverage, though I think it's more that Reed was maybe the best ever at it, while Troy was merely good at it.
Tackling and covering near the front of the defense was where Troy absolutely excelled.
I think the consensus view among those associated with the league is that Reed was better. I don't necessarily agree with that, but Scott isn't alone in his view.
There seems to be a belief that Troy was somewhat of a liability in coverage, though I think it's more that Reed was maybe the best ever at it, while Troy was merely good at it.
Tackling and covering near the front of the defense was where Troy absolutely excelled.
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I'm not arguing one word of Troy's capabilities that you listed. I'm saying he was a tip of the spear player. Why on earth would you have him sit as the last man on a cover one or two. Plus he was an instinctive gambler which is not good for those positions. If you remember Fitz's Td that took the lead in the last SB. Ike let him break his press inside. Troy picked between the two dividing routes and lost. I'm not saying he would have been a stiff or anything he just wouldn't have had near the impact on the game as a traditional free safety.
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Ask any Baltimore player or fan who pays actual attention to the game if he (or she) would have preferred Troy Polamalu on their roster rather than any other SS they had.
Conversely, I suspect there aren't too many of us Steeler fans who wouldn't take Reed over any other Steeler FS. (My apologies to the inimitable Scott Shields.)
Conversely, I suspect there aren't too many of us Steeler fans who wouldn't take Reed over any other Steeler FS. (My apologies to the inimitable Scott Shields.)
Scott said it's disrespectful to Reed to mention Troy in the same breath as Reed, that's complete horse ****
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Ed Reed wouldn't have had the same impact closer in. He would have been bitched over trying to tackle close in. There was a reason why both played where they played as those positions maximized their skill set. No way will I ever tier Ed Reed a level higher. There is simply nothing to support doing that. Polamalu made plenty of game saving plays and then you factor in the man. If anything it is disrespectful to mention Ed Reed in the same breath. **** that bum ratbird looking ******.
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Never said he would have. Totally agree. Two completely different players playing completely different positions. Both HOF players. I do not discount Reed's ability though. He was fantastic. Once he had the ball in his hands he was a threat to score every time.
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Never said he wasn't. Bottom line here are the guys I think are HOF of both teams at that time regardless of whether they are already in or will be in (reality). some cross over eras and I will eliminate Woodson as he is both teams
Ravens: Lewis, Reed, Suggs*, Ogden
Steelers: Ben, Ward, Faneca, Harrison, Polamalu
Suggs is extremely borderline. His numbers are somewhat thin and his accolades aren't what I would expect. I think he gets in because he is a Raven and they won a championship and its pretty hard to go many other places. That said when all this **** really went down in all those games. You had to account for that horse faced ****** for sure.
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I think you meant Piranha faced ******. SteelerSask, I hear exactly what you are saying. I was just giving TROY some due, nothing intended towards your opinion.
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