because he's going to retire after this year. You can just see it on the field and in his play. He's not enjoying himself, he seems to lack confidence in his throws, and he wants no part of contact, almost scared in the pocket. He made a helluva play to AB on that game winning drive but this isn't the Ben I have loved to watch since 2004. He just appears off....I don't know what it is. I really think his heart just isn't in it anymore. I hope he goes out a champion, best quarterback we have ever had. He single handedly turn this franchise around when he was drafted. And there is no doubt he is a hall of famer. I just hope we don't go another 20-25 years to find that franchise guy again.
Enjoy these last 7-10 games with Ben...
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Just a game manager.
SB or he will be back.
Said this in another thread. I really think he is just fed up with Haley and the drama bs as he has gotten older
I can’t put my finger on it with Ben this year. I don’t think he “check out”. No way. You hear the old school talking heads talk about if I didn’t have to do OTAs, training camp, and just get my body ready I’d be out there. There is no way he did all that not to be 100% for himself, his team and fans. But. There is no fire no emotion, sometimes it seems like he’s not even there. I have a feeling he is so done with Haley and the drama queens on the O. You see it every week. He tries to force **** to whom ever was pissed the week before (AB and MB) to **** them the **** up.
Still happy he is our qb and will be so sad when he is gone but I want the fire back Ben.
I can’t put my finger on it with Ben this year. I don’t think he “check out”. No way. You hear the old school talking heads talk about if I didn’t have to do OTAs, training camp, and just get my body ready I’d be out there. There is no way he did all that not to be 100% for himself, his team and fans. But. There is no fire no emotion, sometimes it seems like he’s not even there. I have a feeling he is so done with Haley and the drama queens on the O. You see it every week. He tries to force **** to whom ever was pissed the week before (AB and MB) to **** them the **** up.
Still happy he is our qb and will be so sad when he is gone but I want the fire back Ben.
Either Ben or Haley need to go after this season. Something has to change. I'm sick of this stagnant offense.
I never suggested that he has checked out....that's not Ben. He will always give it his all. But you can just see it...there's just something missing this year, he doesn't appear confident at all.
In the past, when we had the ball with two minutes left and needed a score, I knew Ben would make it happen. Today, he did as well...but before that completion to Bryant on 3rd down, this team was basically prepared to punt the ball away and rely on its defense.
In the past, when we had the ball with two minutes left and needed a score, I knew Ben would make it happen. Today, he did as well...but before that completion to Bryant on 3rd down, this team was basically prepared to punt the ball away and rely on its defense.
Ben is 4th in passing yards this year. Despite his struggles.
I still fly with Ben until he hangs 'em up.
I still fly with Ben until he hangs 'em up.
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Wow. I would never have guess that.
Just not much rhythm flow to the play calling by Todd and execution by Ben. If Im Tomlin I sit down with Ben and figure out what he thinks. And if he thinks its Todd. See ya Todd.
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If you think Ben has lost his mojo go back and watch the TD toss to McDonald.
That was all setup by Ben as McDonald moved to his right Ben looks at him...then Ben looks back to the middle of the field...and the LB'er and Safety both move to the middle with Ben's eye then he no look tosses it to McDonald for the TD.
That play was all possible because of Ben! Great play!
That was all setup by Ben as McDonald moved to his right Ben looks at him...then Ben looks back to the middle of the field...and the LB'er and Safety both move to the middle with Ben's eye then he no look tosses it to McDonald for the TD.
That play was all possible because of Ben! Great play!
According to ESPN.com,.....he's 9th.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingYards/year/2017/seasontype/2
I would kill for original formations with subtle adjustments that sets up and then gashes defenses... give me a whiz type over Haley and his stale plays... not that its not sometimes the players faults, but seriously teams have covered tgese plays too well this year because we arent hiding our plays with formations, drawing safeties off, or using motion to open up guys nearly enough... its old plays and Jaley just wants to run the ball 24 x7 anyhow...
got mine from NFL.com
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They had him at 9th 15 min ago,...now at 7th.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...263-s=PASSING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1
not what I am seeing
Rk Player Team Pos Comp Att Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Int 1st 1st% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate
1 Russell Wilson SEA QB 210 335 62.7 37.2 2,543 7.6 282.6 19 6 118 35.2 66 35 8 23 97.4
2 Tom Brady NE QB 206 309 66.7 38.6 2,541 8.2 317.6 16 2 124 40.1 54 34 7 21 106.5
3 Alex Smith KC QB 204 293 69.6 32.6 2,444 8.3 271.6 18 1 118 40.3 78T 28 7 24 113.9
4 Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB 187 306 61.1 34.0 2,298 7.5 255.3 12 10 103 33.7 97T 30 9 11 83.8
1 Russell Wilson SEA QB 210 335 62.7 37.2 2,543 7.6 282.6 19 6 118 35.2 66 35 8 23 97.4
2 Tom Brady NE QB 206 309 66.7 38.6 2,541 8.2 317.6 16 2 124 40.1 54 34 7 21 106.5
3 Alex Smith KC QB 204 293 69.6 32.6 2,444 8.3 271.6 18 1 118 40.3 78T 28 7 24 113.9
4 Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB 187 306 61.1 34.0 2,298 7.5 255.3 12 10 103 33.7 97T 30 9 11 83.8
Not what I'm seeing.
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[TD="class: right, align: right"]34[/TD]
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odd anyways 4th or 7th either isn't too horrible
OK, either one is still top 10. Better than 23 or 25 other teams' QBs. I wouldn't have thunk it myself, but I'll take it.
No not horrible but 20 points a game won't beat Brady nor win a SB.
Season isn't over...