They are 5 for 5 with Feiler playing. Gilbert is in his last year next year and would be a 5 million cap saving. Feiler will be exclusive rights FA. They drafted a tackle. Realize that hasn't gone well, but should be healthy next year. What do you think?
Does Gilbert get his job back?
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Feiler plays well, but not seeing that he is a better pass protector.Gilbert gets his job back, and will start next year.
Also, Okorafor is in his "intern" year where he plays as the extra TE in the Super Jumbo package. By all accounts he's doing well in that roll. We were told when he was drafted that he was raw and needed a little time to develop. He has all the tools. Assuming he doesn't take a HC job, Munch will make something good out of him.
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For a second there I thought you were talking Okorafor taking a head coaching job....................... HHaaaahhhaaa
I see Gilbert getting his job back as he is PRO-BOWL caliber. His contract may not be extended without reduced pricing and he may not like that but we do have potential replacements so the Steelers hold the cards.
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OH and one more thing, I think Ramon Foster walks unless he signs reduced price. His big mouth didn't help him much while complaining contract earlier during this season.
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pretty sure Foster's comments were tongue-in-cheek about Bell. If Foster didn't want to be here, he would never have came here as an UDFA. He's helped raise the level of play and expectations of the OL since he got here.
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Feiler got beat for a sack, but it was a pretty impressive spin move by the Jaguars Defensive Lineman. Will Gilbert get his job back? Right now, I think Feiler better than Gilbert at 80%, and that is the problem as Gilbert is seldom at 100% for 5 games in a row these days.
I think the Steelers can trade Gilbert, but for that to happen, Feiler needs to show a sustained level of play, and Chuks improvement.
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Marcus Gilbert is a better player than Feiler and will return to his starting role. Feiler is a good backup but and glad we have him but for the long haul I want the pro bowler Gilbert who is superior run and pass blocker to Feiler.
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I have the funny feeling that Gilbert May be replaced by Feiler next season for cap reasons. He is playing above the collar football and is getting better game by game. Will Gilbert be back this season? Maybe. If he’s not back by the NE game then I think it has become Feiler’s job.
My hunch is they extend Foster and let Gilbert..
My hunch is they extend Foster and let Gilbert..
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Mike Adams ( OSU fans should remember him ) also did well in that role.
Oakafor didn't impress at the combine by the standards of a starting NFL tackle in terms of strength, speed or agility. We'll see if Munchak can polish him.
Here's the thing. The Steelers are deep at tackle now. Entering the season, when Hawkins went down early in training camp, our depth looked like ****. We didn't go out and get anyone. We drafted depth with Hubbard leaving in FA in Chukes. He's the extra tackle, and no one is taking that job from him. Hawkins was in line to be the swing tackle before his season ending injury.
Feiler was slated as interior line depth, and started off inactive with Finney ahead of him on the depth chart. Steelers tried Feiler out at tackle, in practice, and said holy ****, he can play there too. That's why Feiler is active all the time now. He can play all 5 line positions (though I don't ever want him at center, he sucks snapping). He was a tackle at Bloomsburg, and it's a natural position for him. Kudos to Munch for getting the most out of his players, as always.
So now the Steelers have a decision this offseason. Do they promote the depth they have with Hawkins, Feiler, Chuckes openly competing for Ben's blind side? Or do they keep Gilbert? Next year is Gilbert's last season under contract. If he's cut, he saves $5M and only accounts for $1.7M in dead money. It could be a money move to release him, with appropriate depth behind him?
But the Steelers have a lot of cap space next year, and hanging on to Gilbert to help Ben for one more year, may be worth the value of keeping him.
Foster though, I think will not be resigned. 33 year old linemen do not break the bank on final contracts, and if he's retained, I don't see it being for more than they already pay him. Age is a factor, and so is the fact that Finney can already play his position. It may be time to move on there.
Feiler was slated as interior line depth, and started off inactive with Finney ahead of him on the depth chart. Steelers tried Feiler out at tackle, in practice, and said holy ****, he can play there too. That's why Feiler is active all the time now. He can play all 5 line positions (though I don't ever want him at center, he sucks snapping). He was a tackle at Bloomsburg, and it's a natural position for him. Kudos to Munch for getting the most out of his players, as always.
So now the Steelers have a decision this offseason. Do they promote the depth they have with Hawkins, Feiler, Chuckes openly competing for Ben's blind side? Or do they keep Gilbert? Next year is Gilbert's last season under contract. If he's cut, he saves $5M and only accounts for $1.7M in dead money. It could be a money move to release him, with appropriate depth behind him?
But the Steelers have a lot of cap space next year, and hanging on to Gilbert to help Ben for one more year, may be worth the value of keeping him.
Foster though, I think will not be resigned. 33 year old linemen do not break the bank on final contracts, and if he's retained, I don't see it being for more than they already pay him. Age is a factor, and so is the fact that Finney can already play his position. It may be time to move on there.
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They likely let Gilbert play out his contract, but he won't get resigned after that.
Mike Adams didn't become what he should have been because he was stupid and immature. Smoked pot before the combine and lazy when he got to Pittsburgh. I challenge you to show me one article that says that Okorafor has shown any of those traits. Just one, rather than your off the cuff replies based on .... hell, who knows what you base most of this crap on. It isn't objective observation, that's for sure.
Go back and look at AB's scouting report coming out of college. How well did that work out for the talent evaluators? See, sometimes folks play better than expected when they put the pads on. Sometimes they work and will themselves to be better than the scouting report. And sometimes, all they need is a little experience and coaching to be better. And yes, sometimes they flop. But it seems like you take some sort of perverse glee in having Steelers players flop.
Villanueva protects Ben's blind side, otherwise good points.
as long as it's someone he didn't want in the draft (see: Burns, Artie or Davis, Sean), he's 100% fine with a Steelers player flopping.
Hell, in a few years we'll hear how we wasted a pick on Rudolph since he wasn't able to beat out an aging Roethlisberger.
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it was also noted that the team watched Oko4 develop for the entire last year of his college career and drafted him based upon what they saw on film not the combine results. Out of sheer logic, I'm going to assume that "the team watched" included Munchak who most everyone here reveres.
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I honestly think next year our offensive line changes drastically. I feel Gilbert and Foster are gone with Finney taking Fosters spot and Feiler and Okorafor fighting it out for RT vs swing tackle. I feel we invest in an interior lineman earlier than normal in the draft. Rounds 3 or 4. I also think we use that Bell money internally but at this point I feel they will invest in Ben and lock him up for the rest of his career. But we might have enough money to lock up Finney and Feiler cheap. No way we can extend Gilbert and Foster if we give ben a new deal.
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I will also add that Feiler is starting due to his experience with the team and this system. He's the ideal swing lineman that you can plug anywhere. I will say that both Hawkins and Chukes are better athletes with a higher ceiling. An open competition with a 3rd year Hawk and a 2nd year Chukes could potentially beat out Feiler.
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Gilbert gets his job back when he's back to full strength. He's one of the best in the league when healthy. Looking forward to next year, I'm not interested in changing 40 percent of the offensive line, especially when one move could involved releasing a talented player when they really don't need to.
I think they don't know what they have with Chukes yet still in the look and see stage. Feiler might be nothing more than a backup. I think this combined with they know what they have in Gilbert and there is no need to throw him to the curb, until a replacement is seen. Not that there isn't one on the roster, but you want to feel comfy with a replacement that he is either a upgrade or at least on the same level of talent.
Hell I could even see a Foster one year or two year contract. Knowing the Steelers love holding onto their own. And I am not sure they see Foster as declining. Nor do I believe he will cost much for a return.
Hell I could even see a Foster one year or two year contract. Knowing the Steelers love holding onto their own. And I am not sure they see Foster as declining. Nor do I believe he will cost much for a return.
Ramon is the weakest link on the starting OL. Gilbert, as stated, is a Pro Bowler and Feiler is a very good backup...
Remind us, again, who pays you to 'think'???
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