There's no doubt it happens at younger ages. It's a rough sport and I see no very little reason the NFL should be held accountable.
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It's a fair point actually. I'm not sure about more concussions than football but soccer is certainly concussion prone with constant headers and getting kicked in the head at point blank range. Or how about Rugby for that matter, or boxing or MMA?
The NFL is the highest grossing sports league in the world so it probably has something to do with that. Also the amount of suicides by former players seems a bit out of proportion with the rest of sports leagues.
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The NFL being held "accountable" in this case is nothing more than a money grab. Period. Dude has late stage CTE after 3 seasons of play. To say this is the sole responsibility of playing in the NFL is nonsense. CTE is simply not an acute injury.
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Pretty fair number of hockey players, mostly goons and enforcers, offing themselves fairly recently as well.
The game will have no semblance at all.... to even what it is today... in 5 years...
In fact---if I were an Owner of a NFL franchise...I would be seriously looking to sell...
In fact---if I were an Owner of a NFL franchise...I would be seriously looking to sell...
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With the amount of money the owners are raking in year over year, I'm fairly certain these guys are just playing with the house's money at this point.
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Goodell is partly to blame for this. Go back about 5 years ago when all this concussion stuff started coming out and he decided to take the position to make himself look good instead of protecting the shield.
All of these CTE studies are still speculation. Numbers are skewed because it can only be diagnosed in autopsy and generally only those who have symptoms get autopsied.
Another point is that CTE occurs naturally in many people. Brains decay as we get older. There are people who never set foot on a sports field who will have alzheimers or other brain ailments in their 50s or younger. There are people who never played sports who will committ suicide.
So far, the dementia and suicide rates of football players is not much higher than the public in general. It's just that now every player who committs suicide is front page as is any ex player who now can't remember his phone number. Nevermind that his mailman neighbor who never played might have the same issue.
Goodell, like he always does, signed his name to whatever narrative will make the media write nice things about him. He agreed with the false narrative that football is the #1 cause of CTE, that thers's no way to avoid it, and that once you get X number of concussions, you are a drooling veg the rest of your life.
if Goodell had any backbone, he would have framed the discussion on facts, not narrative. Facts are that CTE is far from proven science.
Just think of all the millions who have played football going back decades, high school, college, NFL, CFL, arena, etc. If all this CTE hysteria was true, we'd have hospitals and nursing homes filled to the brim with guys who played football.
Years ago, they sent you back in the game just minutes after you were knocked out or had your bell rung. If it was as bad as they say, probably most guys who played prior to the 2000s would be vegetables now.
All of these CTE studies are still speculation. Numbers are skewed because it can only be diagnosed in autopsy and generally only those who have symptoms get autopsied.
Another point is that CTE occurs naturally in many people. Brains decay as we get older. There are people who never set foot on a sports field who will have alzheimers or other brain ailments in their 50s or younger. There are people who never played sports who will committ suicide.
So far, the dementia and suicide rates of football players is not much higher than the public in general. It's just that now every player who committs suicide is front page as is any ex player who now can't remember his phone number. Nevermind that his mailman neighbor who never played might have the same issue.
Goodell, like he always does, signed his name to whatever narrative will make the media write nice things about him. He agreed with the false narrative that football is the #1 cause of CTE, that thers's no way to avoid it, and that once you get X number of concussions, you are a drooling veg the rest of your life.
if Goodell had any backbone, he would have framed the discussion on facts, not narrative. Facts are that CTE is far from proven science.
Just think of all the millions who have played football going back decades, high school, college, NFL, CFL, arena, etc. If all this CTE hysteria was true, we'd have hospitals and nursing homes filled to the brim with guys who played football.
Years ago, they sent you back in the game just minutes after you were knocked out or had your bell rung. If it was as bad as they say, probably most guys who played prior to the 2000s would be vegetables now.
Meh when the android football league gets here and we
can watch utter destruction without any remorse then we can be happy again...
( Justin should copyright that for steelernation lol, just in case)
can watch utter destruction without any remorse then we can be happy again...
( Justin should copyright that for steelernation lol, just in case)
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You can't take away the helmets unless you want to dead with skull fractures.
But maybe a very padded leather like helmet could be a solution.
Australian rules football players don't wear helmets, their game is very violent, and I don't see a word about Australian rules football players suffering CTE or brain injuries or skull fractures.
Brutal collision here. But look - the guy initiating the hit keeps his head up and does not use his head as a weapon, since he does not have a helmet.
How many skull fractures occur in rugby and Australian rules football? Seriously, I don't know, but some seem to think that without helmets, men involved in collision sports will suffer a significant number of skull fractures.
We have a lab to test that theory in rugby and Australian rules football, which involve A LOT of very violent hits and no helmets. So how frequent are skull fractures in those sports?
Another anti-American agenda. Believable in today's society
Football related deaths were way more frequent pre many of the safety rules and gear of today... for instance you cannot throw a teammate cause before the forward pass theyd stitch suitcase handles to a smaller player and heave ho him over the line in short yardage situations... several busted heads and snapped neck deaths later that tactic was thrown out...death drove many of tge requirements and rules of the current game
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In the NFL early years a few died from skull fractures. I don't know about Rugby.
Australian rules football players don't wear helmets, their game is very violent, and I don't see a word about Australian rules football players suffering CTE or brain injuries or skull fractures.
Brutal collision here. But look - the guy initiating the hit keeps his head up and does not use his head as a weapon, since he does not have a helmet.
He did not wrap up.
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What does that mean - "a few"? 1? 10?
So why aren't we hearing about the prevalence of skull fractures and traumatic deaths in Australian rules football and professional rugby? Seriously, it makes no sense that a lack of helmets would cause a much greater incidence of skull fractures and even deaths for a collision sport like football, and yet collision sports like rugby and Australian rules football are played without a helmet, involve repeated collisions - a lot damn serious - and I have not heard a single word about skull fractures and death due to head trauma for rugby players or Australian rules football players.
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Australian rules football players don't wear helmets, their game is very violent, and I don't see a word about Australian rules football players suffering CTE or brain injuries or skull fractures.
Brutal collision here. But look - the guy initiating the hit keeps his head up and does not use his head as a weapon, since he does not have a helmet.
And the thing is, that person's brain sustained injury. His brain sloshed around in his skull and likely hit the front due the sudden change of direction. It might have also hit the back of his skull when he landed on the ground. It might not have risen to the level of getting woosy or sustaining a diagnosible concussion but there WAS stuff going on in his brain during this collision.
That's the point of all this and there is really no way to legislate it out of sports. You play anything rough, your head/body will sometimes move opposite directions. You will sometimes land on the ground hard. We build up the neck muscles to avoid whiplash and neck/spinal injuries during these collisions, but there is no muscle to build up between the skull and the brain to change how those areas interact with each other.
The more times this happens to someone, the more damage is caused to the brain. When you don't give time for the brain to heal, even small amounts of damage in the same area become bruised and permanently CTE-type damaged. If you don't use that part of the brain or work to re-wire the neurons, CTE-type damage can result.
But even with all this data, it's still a CHOICE that I don't feel guilty about. The last thing I want is for governments to regulate sport so much that we don't allow any rough activity because of potential, long term brain injury. I mean, should we just make any combat sport illegal? We might want to start with MMA and boxing before we get to football. What about specific martial arts? Judo? Wrestling? Then we get to football. What about female soccer? Extreme sports? Skiing? Motor sports? Rock climbing?
I mean if we want to say football is "too dangerous", how can you look at me with a straight face and say ski jumping is okay? Or downhill skiing going 100mph? Or formula 1 racing? What is "too dangerous" and who really decides that?
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BTW.... it's not like American Football is the only sport under scrutiny on this issue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_injuries_in_the_Australian_Football_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussions_in_rugby_union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussions_in_sport
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_injuries_in_the_Australian_Football_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussions_in_rugby_union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussions_in_sport
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The football helmet was originally introduced in the late 1800s, after 18 players died from skull fractures sustained during play. Since then, deaths from the sport have plummeted, but some argue the helmet’s introduction ultimately gave rise to the concussion epidemic players are experiencing today. According to the National College Athletic Association (NCAA), football-related concussions have steadily increased since the early 1980s.
Currently, helmet-to-helmet hits are banned by both the NFL and the NCAA, but as tackling has grown more aggressive over the years, accidents continue to occur.
“In football, the majority of the time [a concussion] happens because the heads collide,” Cantu said. “You have tremendous forces involved because of the mass of the body. When you have two heads collide, you have a tremendous quick movement of the head on the neck – and that causes the violent shaking.”
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/...c-should-helmets-be-banned-from-football.html
Yeah i mean its morbid but interesting to read about the many early deaths and injuries from football... like I said before creative dangerous plays led to many a bad situation... for instance its much easier to block a field goal attempt if one player crouched down and another ran up his back and leaped... but cleats + running up a guys back = not so great things...
Ive never understood why college football has been able to avoid the lawsuits. The NFL could have taken it on the chin with their people and got a sign off in their settlement for college football but their are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people who played college football and no pro.
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How does a judge even review a complaint as this. There has been plenty of info to these players on head injuries YET they continue to play from grade school to pros. No one forced them yet after the fact they want to charge negligence to someone else. And if you listen to this complaint then why not sue where it started pee wee football or high school.
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Because people approach this the same way as Global Warming. Two sides with two conventions as to what is going on. For some the roof is falling. For others it's just what happens, and part of the risk of life. With the money these guys make, it's obviously a risk worth taking as D.I.C. pointed out. [emoji115]
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