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Could We Have NFL Season Without Fans?

SteelerSask said:
And Drink Iron City. You have over 14, 000 posts about Steelers football and you aren't gonna watch. SURE.
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If the government gives them "BAIL OUT" money you dang well bet I say **** it. I'm a small business owner operator and am part of the backbone of this great nation. If NFL gets bailed out and us small guys get jack-****............ YOU SEE MY POINT.?


There was a time I was addicted to the NFL but with so much / many changes, it's not even real football anymore. I've pulled back a lot and actually only care mainly STEELERS. I use to watch all games but now only STEELERS games and a small handful of others.

PART of my "MASSIVE" number of post(s) is just comrodary with fellow posters but mostly about our beloved STEELERS. ALSO I've been coming to this board for near eternity.




Salute the nationb
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I don't think vaccine testing will begin until September.
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We have a lab in our community that is linked to less than a 100 labs in the world working on it. And to my knowledge human testing is already under way. Or at the very least they have the subjects. My understanding is $3600 to get the vaccine and hit with the virus. But I will be honest that is just what I heard.
 
Drink IRON City said:
If the government gives them "BAIL OUT" money you dang well bet I say **** it. I'm a small business owner operator and am part of the backbone of this great nation. If NFL gets bailed out and us small guys get jack-****............ YOU SEE MY POINT.?


There was a time I was addicted to the NFL but with so much / many changes, it's not even real football anymore. I've pulled back a lot and actually only care mainly STEELERS. I use to watch all games but now only STEELERS games and a small handful of others.

PART of my "MASSIVE" number of post(s) is just comrodary with fellow posters but mostly about our beloved STEELERS. ALSO I've been coming to this board for near eternity.




Salute the nationb
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Of your 14k post...this might be the truest of them all. Simply a great post that many others are feeling the exact same way.
 
SteelerSask said:
We have a lab in our community that is linked to less than a 100 labs in the world working on it. And to my knowledge human testing is already under way. Or at the very least they have the subjects. My understanding is $3600 to get the vaccine and hit with the virus. But I will be honest that is just what I heard.
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I heard the virus came from CHINA.
 
Drink IRON City said:
If the government gives them "BAIL OUT" money you dang well bet I say **** it. I'm a small business owner operator and am part of the backbone of this great nation. If NFL gets bailed out and us small guys get jack-****............ YOU SEE MY POINT.?


There was a time I was addicted to the NFL but with so much / many changes, it's not even real football anymore. I've pulled back a lot and actually only care mainly STEELERS. I use to watch all games but now only STEELERS games and a small handful of others.

PART of my "MASSIVE" number of post(s) is just comrodary with fellow posters but mostly about our beloved STEELERS. ALSO I've been coming to this board for near eternity.




Salute the nationb
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I'm not talking about a Gov bailout. I'm talking if things settle, but not to the point where they can hold a 70, 000 person crowd. Which that seems nearly impossible at this point. Enough people back at work and with reasonable income. Instead of Netflix, Disney +, Amazon Prime, and whatever platform people are paying every month for, I'm pretty sure enough people would pony up. Maybe you wouldn't. I cannot speak for you. But if there is this much interest in second round draft picks and XFL free agents, you cannot tell me people who can will not pay. Cause like I said, at this point stadiums of people appears impossible. So all of you who do not believe a pay per view system could be worked out and this is all bullshit, then we might as well be talking about the 2021 draft and FA and the the 2021 salary cap. They are talking about not lifting restrictions here till likely July. And to my knowledge it is better here then where the games are gonna be played. So how are you gonna go from Semi to full quarantine to stadiums of people in say two months. If there is no vaccine or treatment, the fear of a rebound resurgence will gut any hope of a season as it has been.
 
At some point this **** has to run it's course. Whatever we're doing now for the next few months has to come to an end. This **** will be back in the fall. We really can't do this again or nobody will have the money to even worry about paying for sports entertainment. Those things get cut out of the budget because they're expendable an unnecessary to sustain life.

The more people immune to it the better off we will be.

It's either that or we stay holed up in the house while the greatest country this world has ever seen crumbles.
 
SteelerSask said:
Because in what I'm talking about, there will be no games played at all unless there is a way to recoup the lost "local revenue". Your Redzone and six games a week will be useless unless enough pony up to have the empty stadium.
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People are losing their jobs, there will be businesses that close, and you think people will worry about the NFL recouping "local revenue"? The billion-dollar TV contracts will have the NFL playing games in empty stadiums without a PPV option. You're talking about each team losing out on at least $75 million in local revenue (that's just tickets and concessions). How many people are going to spend $500 on games they don't care about because you better believe the networks will not be losing their games and they get the top matchups each week as well as a local broadcast.


SteelerSask said:
We have a lab in our community that is linked to less than a 100 labs in the world working on it. And to my knowledge human testing is already under way. Or at the very least they have the subjects. My understanding is $3600 to get the vaccine and hit with the virus. But I will be honest that is just what I heard.
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I was thinking specifically of the Johnson & Johnson trials.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Just pretend the season has already ended with another 8-8 record.

So who does everyone like in the 2021 draft?
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Do we have a 1st round pick and if so I'm sure it's the 32nd pick of the first round.



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Drink IRON City said:
Do we have a 1st round pick and if so I'm sure it's the 32nd pick of the first round.



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More like a "lottery" and with the first overall pick of the 2021 NFL draft the New England Patriots select Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson. And then I probably don't care what happens with NFL football anyhow. HAHA
 
SteelerFan448 said:
People are losing their jobs, there will be businesses that close, and you think people will worry about the NFL recouping "local revenue"? The billion-dollar TV contracts will have the NFL playing games in empty stadiums without a PPV option. You're talking about each team losing out on at least $75 million in local revenue (that's just tickets and concessions). How many people are going to spend $500 on games they don't care about because you better believe the networks will not be losing their games and they get the top matchups each week as well as a local broadcast.




I was thinking specifically of the Johnson & Johnson trials.
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Local revenue is not 75 million. Its roughly 200 million by the Packers financial. Its roughly the cost of the players salaries. The TV money is the other piece of the pie. No doubt, but local revenue of about 6.5 billion will have to be picked up somewhere else or its going to be played in front of spectators or not at all. Simplified (and don't worry I'm not trying to say you are simple or stupid at all) If the players get half under the CBA, it can be broken down to the players half comes from local and the owners get their half from TV. Now the owners half needs to pay the rest of everything and the players are still gonna get their 6.5 Billion. So that just isn't going to work at all. The three choices will be play in front of full stadiums, Figure out a system of substantially increasing revenue from SUNDAY TICKET/ REDZONE and play empty, or no season. And this will include NHL and NBA which start a month later.
 
SteelerSask said:
Local revenue is not 75 million. Its roughly 200 million by the Packers financial. Its roughly the cost of the players salaries. The TV money is the other piece of the pie. No doubt, but local revenue of about 6.5 billion will have to be picked up somewhere else or its going to be played in front of spectators or not at all. Simplified (and don't worry I'm not trying to say you are simple or stupid at all) If the players get half under the CBA, it can be broken down to the players half comes from local and the owners get their half from TV. Now the owners half needs to pay the rest of everything and the players are still gonna get their 6.5 Billion. So that just isn't going to work at all. The three choices will be play in front of full stadiums, Figure out a system of substantially increasing revenue from SUNDAY TICKET/ REDZONE and play empty, or no season. And this will include NHL and NBA which start a month later.
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As I said, $75 million was just an estimate on tickets and concessions. Doesn't include broadcast deals, advertisements/sponsorship deals, merchandise, other stadium events, parking, etc. The NFL and other sports would be able to survive a season without fans in seats. Again, charging hundreds of dollars to fans after everything that is happening right now would be such a terrible look for any professional league with billionaire owners and millionaire players. Many of these carriage deals are probably already in place with cable and satellite companies, so I don't anticipate them changing that. You'd be asking viewers to pay upwards of 3 to 4 times more than what they are currently paying to keep those viewing options. I get what you're saying about the lost revenue, I just don't think many will be willing to pay that much extra to watch football and it would turn a lot of people off the game if the price of viewing increases for one season because of a pandemic.
 
Best case scenario is that there is a season, but is played to half full stadiums. I don’t see the American public suddenly feeing comfortable sitting in close proximity to 60,000 other screaming fans.

Worst case scenario, they bag the season. We’ve already seen spring training, Olympics, NBA season and NHL season cancelled. This is unprecedented. Don’t see anyway things just suddenly return to normal, no matter what.


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SteelerFan448 said:
As I said, $75 million was just an estimate on tickets and concessions. Doesn't include broadcast deals, advertisements/sponsorship deals, merchandise, other stadium events, parking, etc. The NFL and other sports would be able to survive a season without fans in seats. Again, charging hundreds of dollars to fans after everything that is happening right now would be such a terrible look for any professional league with billionaire owners and millionaire players. Many of these carriage deals are probably already in place with cable and satellite companies, so I don't anticipate them changing that. You'd be asking viewers to pay upwards of 3 to 4 times more than what they are currently paying to keep those viewing options. I get what you're saying about the lost revenue, I just don't think many will be willing to pay that much extra to watch football and it would turn a lot of people off the game if the price of viewing increases for one season because of a pandemic.
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No crowd, no pay per view, no season. The players get their 6.5. The owners are not going to carry all the rest and get zero revenue. 6.5 billion divided by $500 for Sunday Ticket is 13 million subscribers worldwide. Dont pay, you still get your six games, but you are not gonna get redzone.
 
SteelerSask said:
No crowd, no pay per view, no season. The players get their 6.5. The owners are not going to carry all the rest and get zero revenue. 6.5 billion divided by $500 for Sunday Ticket is 13 million subscribers worldwide. Dont pay, you still get your six games, but you are not gonna get redzone.
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Players may not get anything if season is cancelled. CANCELL season due to an "act of GOD" could void any salary not earned or played for. Insurance companies do it all the time I'm sure the NFL powered lawyers can figure that out.


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I would NOT pay for PPV NFL. At that point I'd reley on YOU guys here to fill me in on all details needed to satisfy my lowering interest of the NFL.



EDIT: The networks would definately have their games on tv. The STEELERS are a very attractive team and would have more than their share available to the public on NOT pay-per-view. Hell they usually get 5 prime-time games every year. Last year they were flexed into a 6th one.


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Sask, It's a good idea and may happen but I don't think as many people will be for it as you think. Just my opinion from an O'l farm boy.






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Drink IRON City said:
Sask, It's a good idea and may happen but I don't think as many people will be for it as you think. Just my opinion from an O'l farm boy.






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This is more of a mental exercise for me than anything. Obviously on the list of importance right now the NFL Season is extremely low. Though I do kinda laugh at the draft chatter and this and that with the "where are they at with the cap?" because the projections aren't getting better every day. Truth be told more than the demand for it being limited- I think there will be no supply. I don't think the logistics would work. Ice Cube was talking about creating a quarantined basketball league where the players all live in one house and there was some blow back about logistics and optics. Imagine a 53 man roster plus coaches, therapists, equipment managers, and the hundreds of people required. Even if testing rapidly evolves, it most likely would never work.
Right now when it comes to Football (Again not a real life problem). I'm much more sad about not getting to coach spring academy with my 15 year old son and worry he will not have a grade 10 fall season where I planned to coach at his high school. And again these are life distraction issues. Not real life issues of health and finance that so many are going through.
God Bless All!
 
That was certainly enlightening. Not like I thought they were sitting on their hands, but they are obviously preparing for multiple scenarios. I thought the most telling statement was from the doctor, who said obviously if we are still in a situation where one person tests positive everyone is in quarantine, there will be no season. Very hard to envision a situation of that not being the case. In normal work environments it might only be the sick person and their family. But when you are talking about sweat flying and close quarter contact, seems doubtful.
 
SteelerSask said:
That was certainly enlightening. Not like I thought they were sitting on their hands, but they are obviously preparing for multiple scenarios. I thought the most telling statement was from the doctor, who said obviously if we are still in a situation where one person tests positive everyone is in quarantine, there will be no season. Very hard to envision a situation of that not being the case. In normal work environments it might only be the sick person and their family. But when you are talking about sweat flying and close quarter contact, seems doubtful.
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the more we learn about this thing, the more i think there will be no NFL season. I see good news story about possible antibiotic that will work but it won't get to human testing till August from what i read. Even then, they have to get through testing, approval, manufacturing, distribution.
 
Hoot said:
the more we learn about this thing, the more i think there will be no NFL season. I see good news story about possible antibiotic that will work but it won't get to human testing till August from what i read. Even then, they have to get through testing, approval, manufacturing, distribution.
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Hate to say it but I tend to agree with you.
 
Hoot said:
the more we learn about this thing, the more i think there will be no NFL season. I see good news story about possible antibiotic that will work but it won't get to human testing till August from what i read. Even then, they have to get through testing, approval, manufacturing, distribution.
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**** they are already human testing with these medicinal trials. And we aren't talking some rinky dinky testing labs, we are talking about major hospital administering drugs. These covid 19 patients are the human guinea pigs and they are being injected and monitored. Sure an official vaccine might not be approved and distributed for a year / year in a half. But if enough get tested with favorable results technically they can start loosening the umbilical cord of staying home sooner than later.
 
slashsteel said:
**** they are already human testing with these medicinal trials. And we aren't talking some rinky dinky testing labs, we are talking about major hospital administering drugs. These covid 19 patients are the human guinea pigs and they are being injected and monitored. Sure an official vaccine might not be approved and distributed for a year / year in a half. But if enough get tested with favorable results technically they can start loosening the umbilical cord of staying home sooner than later.
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Maybe if they find a breakthrough with a treatment as well. This process seems to be moving a little bit quicker, it just takes time to see results.
 
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