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Could We Have NFL Season Without Fans?

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Tailgating and full stadiums would be leading ways to spread virus, would the NFL play games without fans to preserve the TV revenue.
There would be ways to protect players with testing before games. I'm hoping this is all gone by then, but I have read stories about a second wave that
could occur in the Fall.
 
21STEELERS21 said:
Tailgating and full stadiums would be leading ways to spread virus, would the NFL play games without fans to preserve the TV revenue.
There would be ways to protect players with testing before games. I'm hoping this is all gone by then, but I have read stories about a second wave that
could occur in the Fall.
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nobody knows right now. they don't know if this thing is one wave or seasonal or comes in three like other flu's. i think everyone, the NFL included, is just driving ahead with what they can and taking each day as it comes. no decisions need to be made now on the NFL season.
 
I haven’t gone to a game for a while now, nothing would change for me. Well, except for when the play in Denver, I always go to that game.
 
I haven’t lived in the Burgh in decades but being my hometown never, ever lost my allegiance to the black n’ gold. That means for me two games every season at Heinz which if you haven’t had that opportunity, believe me guys, it’s fricking amazing. Don’t let anyone tell you that watching from home is the same. Nah! You guys who have been there know the feeling. It’s electric and if you can’t get into the excitement when you’re there, you must be dead.


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It happend for a while with European soccer, until they finally cancelled all the matches.

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Lets speak hypothetically because that is all there is. Assuming there is no vaccine at that point (probable). I would say two options would exist. Rigorous testing of players (no idea if that exists or is that effective.) and play the games for pay per view or cancel. However, the cost of the pay per view would have to somehow balance the loss of revenue in the stadium. Just Cause I'm ****** bored lets run the math:

If a team has a salary cap of about 200 million. Then lets say operating expenses of another 30 million. That is 230/year.
The only NFL team to show financials is Green Bay In 2018 what is called local revenue was 198 million. That is everything that would be lost to no one in the seats in this hypothetical scenario. Or roughly the cost of the players. The TV deal is the clincher. That is where the profit is. 200 million for the players covered by local revenue rest of operating expenses covered by TV contracts and the rest is profit.
So allowing for variance of lost revenue to 250 million:
x32= 8 billion
So essentially that 8 billion would have to be offset by the increase to subscription to Sunday Ticket. Perhaps it would be like a season ticket and they only play the games when the revenue is secured.
If they upped the price of Sunday Ticket by $500 it would take 16 million Subscribers worldwide to get to pretty near the current profit levels. They would have to set the level to try to make it attractive so maybe less and less profit.
I honestly believe it would be about language of the CBA. Cause if it states these guys are gonna get paid anyhow, There will be no season guaranteed. However, if it states they do not get paid, I could certainly see a system of very rigorous testing and pay per view. Those with secure money will be lining up to watch.
And I want to be clear about this so don't bother saying I'm callous or any other social justice bullshit. This was a brain exercise cause I'm ****** bored. Health and safety to all.
 
The billions of dollars TV networks sank into broadcast the games would not mesh well with a PPV system. With no one working, no one will be able to afford PPV football. Not happening.
 
The PPV would be like the pay to play. Essentially upping the cost of Sunday Ticket which already exists. It wouldn't be an add on. Unless there is something added it is very doubtful that it would be financially feasible. And I'm talking about a world that returns somewhat to normal. One where life carries on, but people are not seeking being in a crowd of 80, 000 which I believe is pretty realistic.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
The billions of dollars TV networks sank into broadcast the games would not mesh well with a PPV system. With no one working, no one will be able to afford PPV football. Not happening.
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My first thought too. There would be a reason for nobody in the stands......... Which would translate to few people actually working and being able to afford such luxury.

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If the government gave them a "bail-out" of more than $.32 I'd be extremely pissed and quit watching / participating / bitching about the CHEATRIOTS / everything NFL related as it would be dead to me.





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I refuse to pay 200-250 for NFLST now, and I make decent money, no way in hell I am paying anymore. The league can fold long before I will pay that. I REFUSE to short my family to pay millionaires and billionaires.
 
MT~Forged said:
I refuse to pay 200-250 for NFLST now, and I make decent money, no way in hell I am paying anymore. The league can fold long before I will pay that. I REFUSE to short my family to pay millionaires and billionaires.
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Ok, but where do you live? And how many Steelers games do you get to see free? I've paid for Sunday Ticket since '98 because i'm not missing half the games for a hundred bucks or so. If I have the means, I'm sure as **** paying. No one will pay if they cannot afford of course. Look at it this way. Last year:
Airfare to San Fran $500
My share of the Condo for the weekend $250
Oregon vs. Stanford Ticket $75
Incidentals (Food, booze, sightseeing, Uber/ Car rental) $400
Ticket ******* game day ticket $375
That's about $1500 for one ****** game watching Mason Rudolph. If you don't think the world returns to semi normal and that model isn't gonna work, you are high. People will be begging for NFL football.
 
With the projections that are starting to come out, I will be shocked if there is an NFL Football season at all and have almost no hopes of one with actual fans in the seats. There are three major sports that all start within a month of each other though. If most people are back to work and have solid income again, I could really see the empty stadium, high pay per view costs model working. It will be contingent upon whether the players are gonna get paid if there is a season or there isn't one. Cause no one is playing if they are getting paid anyhow. Considering they rushed the CBA together in the weeks leading up to this, that would be a very interesting clause to know.
Bottom line is you can only watch so much Tiger King. I'm lucky and getting paid full to work from home. Can't really spend much right now, so I'm setting money aside. If it $500- $1000 and I'm still working, I'm paying.
Since the networks paid their dough they are obviously wanting to get their revenue. I think it would be maybe as it was before all the big cable million channel platforms. 4 or 5 games of the week. Thursday, 3 Sunday, Monday. That is 5 of 16 games. Rest can only be accessed through pay per view with all the commercials from the network source. Price point would be set by how far it could be spread out. And if you are balking right now. Ask yourself how many streaming services you currently have and how much it costs.
 
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the US is entering the peak of this thing now...at least that is waht the projections say. of course, nobody knows for sure. But that should not be a predictor of things three months from now...lack of vaccine or cure is. that is the news i am waiting ot hear...positive cure/vac testing. That is when we start to win
 
SteelerSask said:
With the projections that are starting to come out, I will be shocked if there is an NFL Football season at all and have almost no hopes of one with actual fans in the seats. There are three major sports that all start within a month of each other though. If most people are back to work and have solid income again, I could really see the empty stadium, high pay per view costs model working. It will be contingent upon whether the players are gonna get paid if there is a season or there isn't one. Cause no one is playing if they are getting paid anyhow. Considering they rushed the CBA together in the weeks leading up to this, that would be a very interesting clause to know.
Bottom line is you can only watch so much Tiger King. I'm lucky and getting paid full to work from home. Can't really spend much right now, so I'm setting money aside. If it $500- $1000 and I'm still working, I'm paying.
Since the networks paid their dough they are obviously wanting to get their revenue. I think it would be maybe as it was before all the big cable million channel platforms. 4 or 5 games of the week. Thursday, 3 Sunday, Monday. That is 5 of 16 games. Rest can only be accessed through pay per view with all the commercials from the network source. Price point would be set by how far it could be spread out. And if you are balking right now. Ask yourself how many streaming services you currently have and how much it costs.
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I still don't understand your PPV model for this. The NFL has TV contracts in hand and a RedZone package. Those options aren't going away and I don't anticipate people spending a boatload of cash on something they've never done before with the current options in place. And who's paying big PPV dollars for a game full of commercials? Defeats the purpose of paying all of that money for it. Besides, it would be a monumental PR disaster for the NFL to have PPV games during a recession.
 
Hoot said:
the US is entering the peak of this thing now...at least that is waht the projections say. of course, nobody knows for sure. But that should not be a predictor of things three months from now...lack of vaccine or cure is. that is the news i am waiting ot hear...positive cure/vac testing. That is when we start to win
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I don't think vaccine testing will begin until September.
 
Play baba. Give me some entertainment!!!! Start that **** up now. **** why isn’t baseball playing? No one goes to the games anyways until October. I demand entertainment!
 
This is one sport where the fans in the stadium really impact the game. It would suck for the players. I would still watch but it would not be the same.
 
I'm doubting they play. You would have 200+ players/coaches/other personnel constantly within very close proximity to each other, on planes traveling into different communities, and I don't think the revenue will be there for the owners to pay their players, not matter how much you charge for PPV.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I still don't understand your PPV model for this. The NFL has TV contracts in hand and a RedZone package. Those options aren't going away and I don't anticipate people spending a boatload of cash on something they've never done before with the current options in place. And who's paying big PPV dollars for a game full of commercials? Defeats the purpose of paying all of that money for it. Besides, it would be a monumental PR disaster for the NFL to have PPV games during a recession.
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Because if enough people do not pay something above the current amount you cannot offset the 200million in gate and extra revenue known as local revenue.
 
SteelerSask said:
Because if enough people do not pay something above the current amount you cannot offset the 200million in gate and extra revenue known as local revenue.
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Again, I just see zero incentive for anyone to pay extra money above our current viewing options. You get six games per week and if you have RedZone you watch them all.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Again, I just see zero incentive for anyone to pay extra money above our current viewing options. You get six games per week and if you have RedZone you watch them all.
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Because in what I'm talking about, there will be no games played at all unless there is a way to recoup the lost "local revenue". Your Redzone and six games a week will be useless unless enough pony up to have the empty stadium.
 
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