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Pitt is pretty much the same team since September. Penn State has gotten better every week. What would the score be if Penn State and Pitt played this week?
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Nonsesne. Pitt's win over Clemson on the road is better than PSU beating Ohio St. at home. When PSU played a top 5 team on the road, they got beat 49-10. No team that gets beat 49-10 belongs in the playoff.
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Are we just going to pretend PSU's entire defense wasn't ravaged by injury for that game? We were down to our 7th linebacker. Come on man you can't be that obtuse
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And don't consider that Pitt lost 4 games. Pitt has been consistently terrible on defense all year. Penn State's offense was barely competent back in Sept and they put up 39 on Pitt.
It's not that big of a statement to say the Penn State is a completely different team than the one that lost to Michigan. Pitt has been pretty much the same team all year. Pitt just let Syracuse score 61 on them.
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I think Penn State is a better team than Pitt. Pitt with a defense would be scary, but that is not reality. Pitts defense has been pretty much non existent all year. PSU got very lucky to beat OSU, but a win is a win. If head to head wins / conference championships mean nothing then why have them.
The head to head win is on PSU's resume. The conference championship, as much as many of you are looking past Wisconsin, is not. Maybe a "yet" is order. Maybe not. As for who would win if PSU and Pitt were to play now; it's irrelevant. What the committee has to work with is who won when they played in September. As I said earlier, that's on their resume too. Two losses. It will be an interesting two weeks.
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Head to head would be the tiebreaker if there was a tie. There isn't. OSU has one loss, PSU has two. OSU's resume is better than Penn State's. Remember, the entire season counts, not just the last few weeks.
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I remember the last couple years people calling for Franklin's head. I said **** that Bill O'Brien did a nice job keeping his core from leaving when the sanctions hit with just a couple guys jumping ship even though the rules made it easy for any and all to do. But he then road those players to compete and when the sanctions were about to hurt he jumped ship to the NFL and left Franklin with dealing with the actual sanctions. I was willing to give Franklin 4 full seasons after the sanctions were lifting to see if when he first year of being able to recruit turned seniors if we were competing with the Ohio States and Michigan Wolverines of the Big Ten. Well, he didn't seem to need it. McSorely who will not be an NFL QB but is exactly what you want from a College QB and then one super star in Barkley really changed that offense. And I give credit to the new OC because he plays to his players talents not like the old OC who tried to fit a square peg in a round hole so-to-speak.
And I have to thank Ohio State for beating Michigan. It was a helluva game.
And I have to thank Ohio State for beating Michigan. It was a helluva game.
Since Penn State always gets screwed politically, I fully expect them to win the Big 10 Championship, and not be selected to play for the national title.
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In this scenario...head to head and a conference championship HAS to be the determining factor. The games PSU lost were when half of their defense was out and the OL was still in flux. After Cabinda and Bell returned and the offense became situated...they have been on an impressive roll. Heck wasn't it just last week that OSU only beat Michigan State 17-16 due to a failed two-point conversion late in the 4th...PSU crushed MSU 7 days later. Who's to say Oklahoma would have only came in third in the Big10 West if they were in the conference? It's all speculation and speculation is why you choose what happens on the field between the two teams be the determining factor.
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The whole town? Nope. But if you think there is no one left there who were complicit in the whole child molestation crimes you need to reconsider.
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Hey Pop, Pennsylvania called. They're happy you left...
Tell them they are free to stay and enjoy their **** weather, politics, socialism, "Blue State Laws," state-run booze system, ungodly amount of leaves in the fall, potholes, soot, grime, dirt, crooked cops, fracking, etc.
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The committee has stated that one of their major factors is late season improvement, meaning they more heavily weigh late season wins and losses over early season wins and losses. This makes sense because early season results can be misleading. Teams get better. Teams get worse (often due to injury).
This is why Penn State is so highly rated. They struggled early with new starters and coches but by the end of the year, they are blowing teams out. Iowa beat Michigan. Penn State destroyed Iowa. It was never a game. MSU nearly beat Ohio State. Penn State destroyed Michigan State.
Clemson has been playing with fire all year and finally lost a game. Washington lost to USC, the only really good team they played.
USC is interesting. I think they should be ranked ahead of Washington. People forget but USC is also coming back from sanctions just like Penn State. They have a bunch of young starters. USC clicked once they settled on a QB. If USC had started him from week 1, they'd probably be a playoff team. USC is not the same team that got blown out by Alabama and Penn State is not the same team that got beat by Michigan.
I think Penn State or Wisconsin only gets in if Colorado beats Washington. Colorado also has 2 losses and it would then be justified to take the 2 loss B1G champ.
on a side note, if this situation applied to the SEC, it's not even a discussion. They'd have OSU as a lock, the winner of PSU Wisc as a lock, and they'd probably be saying Michigan should also get in .
This is why Penn State is so highly rated. They struggled early with new starters and coches but by the end of the year, they are blowing teams out. Iowa beat Michigan. Penn State destroyed Iowa. It was never a game. MSU nearly beat Ohio State. Penn State destroyed Michigan State.
Clemson has been playing with fire all year and finally lost a game. Washington lost to USC, the only really good team they played.
USC is interesting. I think they should be ranked ahead of Washington. People forget but USC is also coming back from sanctions just like Penn State. They have a bunch of young starters. USC clicked once they settled on a QB. If USC had started him from week 1, they'd probably be a playoff team. USC is not the same team that got blown out by Alabama and Penn State is not the same team that got beat by Michigan.
I think Penn State or Wisconsin only gets in if Colorado beats Washington. Colorado also has 2 losses and it would then be justified to take the 2 loss B1G champ.
on a side note, if this situation applied to the SEC, it's not even a discussion. They'd have OSU as a lock, the winner of PSU Wisc as a lock, and they'd probably be saying Michigan should also get in .
Just make it so the conference champs automatically get in, if that means adding more teams so be it, if not the conference title games are meaningless
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Tape...not to jump ahead because PSU is not done this year. I don't have the roster or depth chart ready but I think starting (C) Gaia is the only senior PSU loses on Offense next season, so real quick do you think Godwin/Blacknall or Hamilton jump to the NFL? Did Michal Menet or Will Fries take a complete redshirt (I know there was talk of Fries being yanked) and does Menet go to Center next year? I believe this OL might be one of the potentially most dominant PSU OL's ever in the next two years (McGovern is getting great protection reviews as a Freshman). Lastly on the O, McSorley has played so great recently...is there really a chance Tommy Stevens has pass him next year?
On D...they only lose Schwan, Bell and Golden...do you expect the Lion D to be even better next year?
On D...they only lose Schwan, Bell and Golden...do you expect the Lion D to be even better next year?
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I think that's definitely going to happen. If you want an expanded playoff, then you should be rooting for PSU or Wisc to make the playoff because that will be 2 B10 teams, meaning that 2 of the power 5 conferences are left out. That could be the wake up call. Each conference will see how easily they can miss out and want that guarantee.
my guess is we see 8 teams within a few seasons. 5 conference champs and 3 wildcards with an auto bid for a non power 5 conference champ if they are ranked above a certain spot.
Tell them they are free to stay and enjoy their **** weather, politics, socialism, "Blue State Laws," state-run booze system, ungodly amount of leaves in the fall, potholes, soot, grime, dirt, crooked cops, fracking, etc.
No problem, Enjoy your Hurricane, no basement having, oily beach, mosquito netting around your pool, Zika, spanish speaking, octogenarian Disneyland.
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I hope you remember this the next time Tomlin gets ripped for losing to the suddenly powerful Miami Dolphins.
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This should have happened from the start. They keep worrying about those stupid bowl games. Reward the top 4 seeds by letting them host. Have the quarterfinals two weeks before the semis, to give the winners time to sell tickets, and the fans to arrange travel.
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I disagree with expanding to 8. It would be cool, but im worried it would lower the level of importance in the regular season. Right now, if you lose even 1 game you could be ******. If you have automatic bids, then the non conference wont matter anymore. It will dilute it I think.
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I agree to a point, but right now conferences may be meaningless. Currently alot of teams play diluted non conference games and I do not think or will change much. A counter argument would be that teams would play better out of conference opponents because a loss won't be as hurtful
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Bingo! You'll get some great September matchups. When one loss ends your season, it results in a ton of meaningless games late.
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Thanks for wishing hurricanes on me.
Small trade off. It just makes you more disciplined, which is a good thing.
Never witnessed a single oily beach day yet. I don't know what parts of FL you go to, but not here.
I do have a pool enclosure but it has nothing to do with bugs whatsoever. You have to clean your pool far less often with an enclosure.
LOL, not here.
Again not here. I guess you don't realize FL is a big state with a lot of varience from area to area. That's OK, I too was clueless at one time too.
Scoff. Yea, didn't you know? All of FL has Disneyland around it, all over.