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From a last second loss to Pit and a thrashing by the Wolverines, they are now both looking up to the team that won the Big Ten East.

If my memory serves me correctly, this year was supposed to be the first year they were bowl eligible. To do what they've done, just 4 years removed from the sanctions is nothing short of miraculous. I thought it would have been a decade before they were competitive again. Now they're playing well with young talent, and quality wins will only help recruiting of players to play in that 100k+ stadium of thiers.

Way to go Lions, get Barkley healthy and take the division from Wisconsin!
 
Still almost in shock from watching the games today. Back and forth between OSU and UM to being down at the half against MSU and then true to form they completely take over the game in the second half. What this team has done all year in the second half of games is truly amazing.

Like you I thought it would be 10+ years if ever recovered.

Hopefully Barkley is ok and can play next week. If he is out it will be a big loss.
 
Happy for Penn. The players that weren't even there were the ones punished, but that is how it works. Just glad they are doing the things they are doing.



Salute the nation
 
'grats, Nittany Lions and Nittany faithful.
 
The amazing thing is this was the big rebuild year. They made it through sanctions because when they hit, PSU was loaded with lots of experienced upperclassmen to get them through the first few years.

Last year those upperclassmen were mostly gone and it was a tough year, particularly on the OL. Franklin still did a great job of recruiting despite mediocre results on the field.

This year it was sink or swim for the young players. To make matters worse, they had a bunch of injuries. Against Pitt, they were missing their LBs and had some DL suspended. Against Michigan, all 3 starting LB were out and their 4th LB got kicked out on a targeting call so they had to play a freshman DE at LB and Safety Koa Farmer at LB.

Those hard times gave valuable experience to players who would not have gotten it otherwise. Koa Farmer has now established himself as a LB and 2 of the originakl starting LBs came back. So did the suspended DL and all of a sudden PSU had a pass rush and some LBs.

Most impressive is the new OC Joe Moorhead who used the first few games to learn what his players could do then he tweaked his schemes to match. So many coaches live and die by their system. It's the great coaches that adjust.

It's amazing that even when things looked bad at the beginning, they still did not burn the redshirts of several top recruits, especially top OL recruit Michael Menet. This team should be even better next year.


I can't wait to see what Franklin can do on the recruiting trail now that he has something he can really sell.
 
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Just like Tomlin, everyone was calling for Franklin's head at the beginning of the season. But, Franklin did a hell of a job this year and should be at the top for coach of the year.
 
I swear this team has a switch that gets flipped at halftime. In the first half, MSU was pushing PSU all over the field, long drives, fortunately only scoring FG's. Second half, MSU never had a chance. They went 3 and out and the rest as they say is history. Crazy.
 
I was there for Ohio State and I am sorry to say, pussed out at half time cause of the cold. Watched the rest at a bar. Hey, before you judge, I ain't 29 anymore.

I will probably regret leaving that game for a good while. It is really good to see. Those kids deserve it, hell the student body deserves some good because everybody got caught up in that scandal. My daughter was in college at PSU at the height of it, had no affiliation with anything football, but still would get snide remarks.
 
The only thing that sucks is they are still thinking about giving the nod to ohio state over whomever wins the big ten, which is patently unfair...
 
diver said:
I was there for Ohio State and I am sorry to say, pussed out at half time cause of the cold. Watched the rest at a bar. Hey, before you judge, I ain't 29 anymore.

I will probably regret leaving that game for a good while. It is really good to see. Those kids deserve it, hell the student body deserves some good because everybody got caught up in that scandal. My daughter was in college at PSU at the height of it, had no affiliation with anything football, but still would get snide remarks.
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My grand Uncle, who never misses a game (He's an Alum of 60+ years and used to pitch for PSU. He fell at halftime of the OSU game and tore his knee, and had to leave. PSU coming back from that halftime deficit would have been unthinkable, now they are playing some of the best and most dominant football in College football. Since week 3 they have blown out every opponent except OSU, though they did come back from a 17pt deficit to beat them. That says a lot for their argument to be in the playoffs with a win against Wisconsin.
 
madinsomniac said:
The only thing that sucks is they are still thinking about giving the nod to ohio state over whomever wins the big ten, which is patently unfair...
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PSU lost TWO games this year. One of which was to an unranked then, and still unranked now, Pitt. That's on their resume.
Wisconsin lost to OSU head to head. That's on their resume.
Ohio State's loss? To the potential B1G Champ who is ranked in the top 10 (Congratulations PSU). That's on their resume.
Best case scenario, whomever wins the B1G Championship game gets an invite ALONG WITH tOSU.

Edit: And btw, isn't it ******* GREAT to be having these types of conversations about the B1G rather than the way it was a few years ago? A strong conference helps everybody.
 
SteelBuckeye said:
PSU lost TWO games this year. One of which was to an unranked then, and still unranked now, Pitt. That's on their resume.
Wisconsin lost to OSU head to head. That's on their resume.
Ohio State's loss? To the potential B1G Champ who is ranked in the top 10 (Congratulations PSU). That's on their resume.
Best case scenario, whomever wins the B1G Championship game gets an invite ALONG WITH tOSU.

Edit: And btw, isn't it ******* GREAT to be having these types of conversations about the B1G rather than the way it was a few years ago? A strong conference helps everybody.
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It sure is, isn't it? I got so tired of SEC this and SEC that. Not to take anything away from the SEC, but it nice for a change.

Wasn't easy rooting for OSU though, yesterday.
 
Cope said:
My grand Uncle, who never misses a game (He's an Alum of 60+ years and used to pitch for PSU. He fell at halftime of the OSU game and tore his knee, and had to leave. PSU coming back from that halftime deficit would have been unthinkable, now they are playing some of the best and most dominant football in College football. Since week 3 they have blown out every opponent except OSU, though they did come back from a 17pt deficit to beat them. That says a lot for their argument to be in the playoffs with a win against Wisconsin.
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That doesn't help knowing a guy in his 80s only left because he tore up a knee. Aw, hell, I wasn't dressed for it. I stayed out at Black Mo and took a hike in the AM and even fished a little before I went in. Didn't seem too bad. Got to the game and it felt like the Siberia or something.
 
I have to agree. I see no way OSU moves out of the No. 2 spot. And, if Alabama wins their championship, they are easily No. 1. The Big 10 Champ could and probably should sneak in at No. 4. That could be either Penn State or Wisconsin but hopefully Penn State.
 
I was there yesterday.. It was such an electric atmosphere. It warms my heart to see my Nittany Lions finally back on the national stage. They play with such heart, such determination. They have great leadership and play for each other. They overachieve and are greater than the sum of their parts. They are the anti-Steelers


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Here is the thing... Alabama is 1 no matter what... Clemson is in with an acc championship... Their power numbers are just behind ohio states... That leaves washington, who will play a top ten team in its championship and has a good resume outside of non conference... They are ranked nearly as high as clemson on most power rankings... The conference winner with the worse resume will be the big ten winner... Like it or not if wisconsin wins, the comittee has ample reason via their earlier loss to osu to surplant them with osu.... With penn state it gets murkier... They have the h2h with osu... Based on the non binding committe directives penn state should get in over osu despite being on paper an inferior team
 
Sarge said:
I swear this team has a switch that gets flipped at halftime. In the first half, MSU was pushing PSU all over the field, long drives, fortunately only scoring FG's. Second half, MSU never had a chance. They went 3 and out and the rest as they say is history. Crazy.
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Been watching PSU football since the 80's and I have never seen any PSU team do this. Not like this anyways, including the all mighty 94 team led by Kerry Collins. Seen a stat awhile ago that PSU has trailed its opponents of all games by 9 points in the first half, and has outscored them by 175 in the second half. You stand to win a lot of games with second half adjustments like that.

Imagine if they can manage to put 4 quarters together lol.
 
I am sorry: I can't root for any entity that systemically fostered/allowed for/hid anything as repellent as child molestation. To me, it's no different the Catholic church hiding, denying and allowing the rapes of boys to continue. A lot of the people who were complicit in all the crimes are still there. No way can I support that. Just the THOUGHT of Sandusky trying to sell his crimes as "I'm just like a kid myself. I like playing around with kids" is revolting. He thought we should feel sorry for him, and Joepa was the same way: We were supposed to feel sorry for him while he was at least complicit in the crimes. Young boys can't generally protect themselves; we need adults looking out for them, not tricking them into deviate sexual acts in the shower. Yes, the current players had NOTHING to do with any of it, but don't kid yourself into thinking that whole town ain't dirty and many of the sick a-holes are still there.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...n-state-conspiracy-coverup-sanducky-sex-abuse

I can't delude myself into thinking that only Sandusky was guilty of anything and now that he's in the clink, all is pure and well. This stink interfaces and weaves among the highlest level officials, the police and even judges. The abuse of those 10 to who-knows-how-many boys ruined lives. And we are supposed to just smile and think it was purely the sickness of one man. Bull ****.

These alleged exchanges reproduce precisely the classic reactions to revelations of sexual abuse in groups ranging from families, to churches, to colleges. No one says, "We have a firsthand witness of the molestation of a child! And it's plausible because the police already investigated this guy for a similar reported incident. He has constant, unsupervised access to children: we need to report this guy at once and alert everyone responsible for their wellbeing!"

Instead, there is a collusive and immediate distancing of responsibility. There is – again, classically also – a collusive minimization of harm to the child; the abstraction of the child to an insignificant cipher ("the subject"); and finally, there is the joint agreement to extend the peculiar empathy patriarchy always seems to find at the prospect of a respected white man facing any public shame or discomfort. Better to sacrifice the victim's welfare and hide the affair from the scrutiny of justice, than endure the intolerable prospect of a high-status and trusted white man's secret sexual vices being exposed.

What is especially heartbreaking about the victims in this case is that these children, who were enrolled in Sandusky's Second Mile charity, were already vulnerable: they had no parents to confide in or to defend them, no adults around who would have been safe to speak to. That is the nature of a successful conspiracy: a watertight, 360-degree plot with no escape for its ensnared victims. That would have been these kids' reality.

One victim described at the Sandusky trial how, when Sandusky would abuse him in a basement, he knew Mrs Sandusky was on the floor above watching TV – but knew there was no point in going to her. That child would have picked up – as kids and victims in general do in a collusive coverup situation – that there would be no point in going to the Penn State authorities or other responsible adults.

Victims sense when everyone is in on protecting an abuser. They suffer three times over: first, the abuse itself; then, the betrayal of trust; and finally, the denial of the reality of their experience. It is that knowing act of suppression that makes such conspiracies criminal.
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Penn State just got a committ from one of the top DT prospects. He was committed to Florida and just flipped today.
 
Yes, the current players had NOTHING to do with any of it, but don't kid yourself into thinking that whole town ain't dirty and many of the sick a-holes are still there. ]
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Oh for **** sakes now the whole town "should have done more"?!?!?

"In hindsight" right?

Please....
 
Let's Go Badgers
 
Ill say this... If you told me after the Pitt-Penn St game that those two teams would have 18 wins between them id have laughed a lot at you... And for both beating #2s.... Wow.... I Figured both were years from anything
 
Hail to Pitt!
 
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