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College Football Saturday

Vader said:
when was the last time Michigan the supposed 2nd great team in the big ten competed for the title?
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Michigan should have been in the title game in 2006 I believe it was
Their only loss was to #1 OSU in a close game in Columbus when they were #2 but Florida was picked to go to the game
 
Vader said:
Wasn't Miss St. #1 or #2 in the country a couple of years ago? You have Florida, LSU, Tennessee, Bama and Auburn that have won titles within the past 20 years. 11 out of the last 20 winners were from the SEC. What other conference has done that? Anybody even close?

When was the last time Iowa State, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska ETC.... every did anything. Hell when was the last time Michigan the supposed 2nd great team in the big ten competed for the title?
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I stated they were consistently the best...but pointed out they also have their weaker sisters they usually beat up on
 
topseed said:
Didn't see much of Tommy Stevens, in fact I can't remember him being in the game at all. They utilized him in various situations in different positions last year...do you know why that wasn't the case against App State?
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tape

I'll take your lack of a response as a no, you don't know why Stevens wasn't used.


And as far as the college football playoff, I'd like to see an 8-team format. Then they can invite all five big conference winners, the occasional undefeated smaller conference team (like UCF last year), and still have room for two more at-large teams.

Play the first round on Christmas Eve, create a new tradition.
 
Vader said:
The committee laughed because it was ridiculous. OSU got ******* pounded by Clemson. And mighty Penn St. had over half a hundred hung on them by USC. Georgia beat the team YOU thought would beat Bama. They try to find the best teams not the teams you happen to like. I wish they would expand but then people like you would ***** because too many SEC teams made it in. The fact is that Bama's loss last year was against a one loss Auburn. Which is better than Clemson's one loss against a horrible 4-8 Syracuse and Oklahoma's one loss against a 7-5 Iowa State team. But hey Oklahoma plays in the tough Big 12 conference where national champion power houses like Baylor and Texas Tech play. How could they not get in?

Fact is that both Georgia and Bama deserved to be there. If OSU had taken care of business last year then I wouldn't have a problem. But they didn't. The SEC is still the best conference and sometimes the two best teams are there. Just like last year when Georgia beat Oklahoma and Bama destroyed Clemson and beat Georgia.

Most people don't want the best teams to be in the final. They want their team to be in OR they want teams they don't like not to make it.

Just BTW how many teams on OSU's schedule can beat them? One? Outside of Penn State who the hell do they play? Michigan who they always beat and just lost to ND? Seriously?
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By your logic, Georgia should not have made it last year then i guess. If you want to take what happens in the playoff and then say that meant Ohio State didn’t belong.

i brought up Clemson to show what a difference a game can make in how you view a team. I suspected Clemson was fake because Kelly Bryant isn’t that great. But i want the regular season to mean something and winning the ACC (or any conference) should count for something.

If you are taking non champs then it cheapens the regular season big time.
 
topseed said:
tape

I'll take your lack of a response as a no, you don't know why Stevens wasn't used.


And as far as the college football playoff, I'd like to see an 8-team format. Then they can invite all five big conference winners, the occasional undefeated smaller conference team (like UCF last year), and still have room for two more at-large teams.

Play the first round on Christmas Eve, create a new tradition.
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No, i don’t know. My guess is it was because they were already planning to use multiple new players and rotating guys to get them experience.

8 teams would be OK. 6 should be the minimum. 5 conference champs plus a wildcard. The wildcard would have to include a non power 5 team if they were ranked in top 10. Then top 2 teams get a bye. That would make the regular season very important and down to the wire.
 
Vader said:
The committee laughed because it was ridiculous. OSU got ******* pounded by Clemson. And mighty Penn St. had over half a hundred hung on them by USC. Georgia beat the team YOU thought would beat Bama. They try to find the best teams not the teams you happen to like. I wish they would expand but then people like you would ***** because too many SEC teams made it in. The fact is that Bama's loss last year was against a one loss Auburn. Which is better than Clemson's one loss against a horrible 4-8 Syracuse and Oklahoma's one loss against a 7-5 Iowa State team. But hey Oklahoma plays in the tough Big 12 conference where national champion power houses like Baylor and Texas Tech play. How could they not get in?

Fact is that both Georgia and Bama deserved to be there. If OSU had taken care of business last year then I wouldn't have a problem. But they didn't. The SEC is still the best conference and sometimes the two best teams are there. Just like last year when Georgia beat Oklahoma and Bama destroyed Clemson and beat Georgia.

Most people don't want the best teams to be in the final. They want their team to be in OR they want teams they don't like not to make it.

Just BTW how many teams on OSU's schedule can beat them? One? Outside of Penn State who the hell do they play? Michigan who they always beat and just lost to ND? Seriously?
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Rut rho, Shaggy...you've started a war...
 
CoolieMan said:
I stated they were consistently the best...but pointed out they also have their weaker sisters they usually beat up on
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Every conference does. You'll never have a conference that has 15-20 top teams. So you have to judge the conference based on how well they do at producing championship teams and winning bowl games against other conferences.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
By your logic, Georgia should not have made it last year then i guess. If you want to take what happens in the playoff and then say that meant Ohio State didn’t belong.

i brought up Clemson to show what a difference a game can make in how you view a team. I suspected Clemson was fake because Kelly Bryant isn’t that great. But i want the regular season to mean something and winning the ACC (or any conference) should count for something.

If you are taking non champs then it cheapens the regular season big time.
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Nothing wrong with Georgia making it. They were the 2nd best team in the country and again beat the team you thought was the best. If it were up to you no SEC team would make it because you don't like them. Hell Bama's QB wasn't that great last year. But they weren't fake. Some of the best Qbs never sniff the championship game. What about Clemson's great defense? Didn't they play in the game?

The conference championship games have nothing to do with who the best teams are because a team can lose one game on the road to a in-state foe and not make it. Even though everybody knows that Bama last year would beat Auburn at a neutral site... my guess is you know it too but don't care because of your bias. Bama would have beaten Oklahoma as well. Hell Oklahoma couldn't even beat Georgia.
 
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