• Please be aware we've switched the forums to their own URL. (again) You'll find the new website address to be www.steelernationforum.com Thanks
  • Please clear your private messages. Your inbox is close to being full.

College Football Bowls and Playoffs

I think the G5 must have 1 spot. If this is the FBS playoff then every FBS team should have a path to play for the championship. Without a guaranteed G5 spot, you could likely write them off every year.

They have to get rid of conference championship games. Make them play in games. Make the top 2 G5 teams play. Then have the other power 4 bubble teams play. You put the top 9 in the playoffs, then for seeds 10,11,12, you have play in games.

The top 2 G5 play for a spot - JMU vs Tulane.

Then you have the team ranked teams 10, 11, 12, and 13. That would have been Texas at Miami and BYU at Notre Dame. The winners are in.
 
I think the G5 must have 1 spot. If this is the FBS playoff then every FBS team should have a path to play for the championship. Without a guaranteed G5 spot, you could likely write them off every year.

They have to get rid of conference championship games. Make them play in games. Make the top 2 G5 teams play. Then have the other power 4 bubble teams play. You put the top 9 in the playoffs, then for seeds 10,11,12, you have play in games.

The top 2 G5 play for a spot - JMU vs Tulane.

Then you have the team ranked teams 10, 11, 12, and 13. That would have been Texas at Miami and BYU at Notre Dame. The winners are in.
They need to figure out a way for the P4 Homecoming opponents to have their own playoff system. Ole Miss blew out Tulane twice this year. Oregon looks like they're playing a high school team tonight.
 
They need to figure out a way for the P4 Homecoming opponents to have their own playoff system. Ole Miss blew out Tulane twice this year. Oregon looks like they're playing a high school team tonight.

I agree that FBS or whatever we want to call the top division of football needs to be reduced. It's only a matter of time before there's teams who can compete in the NIL world and those who can't.

The Big 10 and SEC need to morph into an AFC and NFC of about 40 teams that want to pay players. I think this will be best for everyone. I think teams like Pitt or Purdue or Iowa would be much happier if they could just compete and win bowls or championships against other non-NIL teams.

Somebody really should just suggest this option. I'd bet tons of schools would rather just play football with student athletes rather than general managers and contracts that get renegotiated every year. Give it a few more years and even boosters will be on board.

If you donate millions and then 5 years later your team still hasn't sniffed a title because the top teams still have more money, you may like the idea of dropping a level and being champs instead of 5th place in a NIL conference.
 
Not sure who the guy in the booth was, but he said that Tulane never should have been in there, and ND should have been. His premise was that only teams that can reasonable considered able to win the national championship should be allowed, and ND was clearly one of those. Tulane was not.

Interesting.
 
For all the people on social media who cry about these lopsided P5 losses. Here's last years NFL wildcard round results

Houston 32 Chargers 12
Baltimore 28 Pittsburgh 14
Buffalo 31 Denver 7
Philly 22 Green Bay 10
Washington 23 Tampa 20
Rams 27 Minnesota 9

Only 1 game was competitive. It happens with playoffs. It even happens in the Super Bowl.

Nobody complained about Tennessee getting in the playoffs last year after they were curb stomped by Ohio State.
 
Not sure who the guy in the booth was, but he said that Tulane never should have been in there, and ND should have been. His premise was that only teams that can reasonable considered able to win the national championship should be allowed, and ND was clearly one of those. Tulane was not.

Interesting.
They're all a year behind on this stuff. Everyone was all over playing home games rather than "bowl games" after the first round.
 
In the class of 2025, Oregon had 18 commits: three 5-stars, fourteen 4-stars, and one 3-star. That's a 94% blue chip percentage. Anything over 50% or so is pretty good. JMU had 16 commits: sixteen 3-stars. That's a 0% blue chip percentage.

Oregon recruits top players from all over the country; James Madison is a regional member of the Sun Belt Conference which has only been playing at the FBS level since 2022.

It's no surprise that the score was 34-6 at halftime.
 
They're still trying to fit the old conference championship and bowl system into the playoffs and it's throwing everything off.

Here's a radical idea. You start the season with the Bowl games. Make week 0 into Bowl week with the major NY6 bowls inviting the top 12 teams. Then you save the minor bowls for the end of the year consolations prizes for non-playoff teams.
 
They're still trying to fit the old conference championship and bowl system into the playoffs and it's throwing everything off.

Here's a radical idea. You start the season with the Bowl games. Make week 0 into Bowl week with the major NY6 bowls inviting the top 12 teams. Then you save the minor bowls for the end of the year consolations prizes for non-playoff teams.
I don’t get the purpose of moving bowl week. At this point it’s a combination of filler TV for ESPN and trying to maintain tradition that is totally blown up with pay-for-play. Playing it Week 0 doesn’t give ESPN programming in December.

About 30 bowl games will probably eventually be replaced with a 32-team playoff in an 80-team superleague.
 
Moving the Bowls creates programming. Right now these NY6 bowls are just playoff games people will watch anyway. If they moved those games to week 0 it would create a monster opening week. They could play the games over multiple nights.

What it also does is it means round 2 of the playoffs get moved on campus instead of at a neutral site bowl game. It's win win.

I think you can expand to 16 teams max. If you go to 16, it means no more bye. Your Bye for the top seeds is you get to play the low seeds which should be an easy tune up game.

I will be interested to see if the teams on Bye all look sluggish in the first half. That's what happened last year as all 4 Bye teams lost because they got jumped early. Everybody was freaking out about the seeds and missed the biggest story of Bye teams having a disadvantage.

I guarantee that Oregon feels better beating up on JMU as a tune up rather than last year when they sat for almost 30 days before having to play an Ohio State team off a playoff win vs Tenn.
 
Moving the Bowls creates programming. Right now these NY6 bowls are just playoff games people will watch anyway. If they moved those games to week 0 it would create a monster opening week. They could play the games over multiple nights.

What it also does is it means round 2 of the playoffs get moved on campus instead of at a neutral site bowl game. It's win win.

I think you can expand to 16 teams max. If you go to 16, it means no more bye. Your Bye for the top seeds is you get to play the low seeds which should be an easy tune up game.

I will be interested to see if the teams on Bye all look sluggish in the first half. That's what happened last year as all 4 Bye teams lost because they got jumped early. Everybody was freaking out about the seeds and missed the biggest story of Bye teams having a disadvantage.

I guarantee that Oregon feels better beating up on JMU as a tune up rather than last year when they sat for almost 30 days before having to play an Ohio State team off a playoff win vs Tenn.
I don't think there's any juice to calling them "bowl games" at the start of the season. It's just one of the good kickoff classic games being played in an NFL stadium. Part of the allure of the bowl games, particuarly the NY6, was the tradition surrounding the games. That's basically been stripped away and there's no point to including these games as a part of the playoff system.

I agree about the bye weeks. It's such a ridiculously long layoff that, IMO, gives teams a distinct competitive advantage.
 
Is this a step toward ND being frozen out of scheduling until they join a conference?

 
Can someone tell me what games are actually on today??

So friggin' tired of stupid google showing me every stupid game ever played. Just want to watch games from today!! There are games from earlier in this year, etc. so stupid.
 
Can someone tell me what games are actually on today??

So friggin' tired of stupid google showing me every stupid game ever played. Just want to watch games from today!! There are games from earlier in this year, etc. so stupid.
Toledo vs. Louisville - on now on ESPN.

Western Kentucky vs. Southern Miss on at 5:30pm on ESPN.
 
Top