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College football 12/3/16

Yea everyone else is playing for runner up it seems. It would just be nice to see someone else in the limelight for awhile.

I'm not saying it's going to be a cake walk for Bama...maybe one of the "better teams", according to Tape, can knock us off???
 
For a while last night's I was curious as to how Wisconsin might match up against Bama.
 
You all are over looking my Aztecs taking the MWC for the second year in a row!
 
Washington getting in is a bad precedent... Rutgers, Idaho, and Portland St... that is who they challenged themselves with... Oklahoma, Penn St., and Michigan are all more deserving.

I think the scheduling thing is held against teams too much. I mean Washington's non conference schedule was probably set before the playoff existed, you also have no control about how the other programs do. What if their game with Rutgers was scheduled when Schiano was still there and they looked like a team on the rise? Not their fault if they go down the tank.
 
This would have been a great year to have more than four teams. I think Alabama may be the only team of the four that you couldn't make a fairly reasonable argument to replace with someone else.
 
This would have been a great year to have more than four teams. I think Alabama may be the only team of the four that you couldn't make a fairly reasonable argument to replace with someone else.
I agree, like someone else said teams are different now than in October, especially if there are injuries.
All 5 of the big conference champs should get in, then 3 at large teams, this way teams KNOW before the season what's needed to be done to get in
 
Don't foolish, Tape. Bama is CLEARLY the best team in the country. Period.


Bama only faced 2 decent passing teams, Ole Miss (13th) scored 43 and Arkansas (35th) scored 30

Passing rankings of Bama's other SEC opponents
Kentucky 102
Tenn 62
Tex A&M 50
LSU 101
Miss St 83
Auburn 112
Florida 84

They went unbeaten so they deserve the #1 seed but that defense has not really been tested. And now they have injuries in the secondary.

Maybe Bama really is great but fact is, they have not been tested. Their schedule was really soft this year. They played USC week 1 when USC wasn't even settled on a QB and had a bunch of new starters.


I think Wash is too soft to beat Bama, but they have a shot because Bama hasn't faced an offense as good as Wash. Wash is a young team and may get rattled.

Bama fans should be rooting for Ohio State to win. OSU sucks at passing and got worse as the year progressed. Ohio State ended the year playing mostly bad football.


I wish Penn State could have played Bama. I think they'd have a real shot but even if they lost it would be good to see where they stand against a top team for next year.
 
PSU lost 2 games. End of story. And if we're going to whine about conference champions not winning the national championship, you shouldn't watch the NCAA basketball tournament.

BTW, I'm not a fan of any team in the discussion.


The BCS put 2 loss Florida in the Champ when they were only picking 2 teams and they justified it by saying it was because SEC was best conference so they had to be in there. Of course the BCS was essentially rigged.

You can't compare football to basketball because they allow 64 teams and it's a tournament so all the conference champs do get in there.


I think what people are upset about is not just that a conference champ was left out but that they selected a different team from that same conference. A team that lost head to head against that champ. It seems to have rendered the whole championship meaningless.

I would not be surprised if a rule tweak comes out of this. You can say that you can only select a non conference champ as a second team from that conference. In other words, you could only choose Ohio State, if Penn State was also in there. This would give weight back to the conference titles.
 
I would not be surprised if a rule tweak comes out of this. You can say that you can only select a non conference champ as a second team from that conference. In other words, you could only choose Ohio State, if Penn State was also in there. This would give weight back to the conference titles.

So if Alabama lost on a fluke play to Florida this year, they can't make the playoffs although they are clearly one of the best four teams? I don't see them locking themselves into a rule like that.
 
So if Alabama lost on a fluke play to Florida this year, they can't make the playoffs although they are clearly one of the best four teams? I don't see them locking themselves into a rule like that.

Maybe you add an exception of when the Champ is not ranked in the top 10, then you can take the higher rated non-champ to guard against that fluke scenario.
 
By that logic, Western Michigan should before anyone besides Alabama.

Western Michigan was never in the running for a playoff berth. In fact, after winning the MAC championship game. their own head coach was begging for a Cotton Bowl invitation, which they did happily receive. So that "logic" is unrelated to this discussion, and my statement about Penn State having two losses.

But thanks for trying.
 
TV ratings. PSU gets in over Washington and nobody west of the Mississippi watches the semi-final games.

What a foolish statement. Penn State has one of (if not THE) biggest alumni networks in the country. A renewed Penn State/Alabama matchup would have had monster ratings. Nobody outside of the Pacific Northwest gives a **** about the Washington Huskies.
 
You can't compare football to basketball because they allow 64 teams and it's a tournament so all the conference champs do get in there.

It's 68 now, and absolutely ridiculous. Nothing but a money grab. The regular season holds little meaning. There should be no more than half that number. And the football playoff should never be more than 8 teams.
 
Everyone is picking USC to blow out Penn State. I guess we shall see.
 
Western Michigan was never in the running for a playoff berth. In fact, after winning the MAC championship game. their own head coach was begging for a Cotton Bowl invitation, which they did happily receive. So that "logic" is unrelated to this discussion, and my statement about Penn State having two losses.

But thanks for trying.

Try to comprehend.

I never said Western Michigan was in the running. I was making the point that you cannot argue won-loss record and then switch the argument to conference strength. Pick one. If conference strength is going to factor into it at all, it only makes sense that the champion of the toughest conference would be included.
 
No. 1 Alabama will play No. 4 Washington in the Peach Bowl.

No. 2 Clemson and No. 3 Ohio State will face off in the Fiesta Bowl.


Bama will smoke Washington
 
No. 1 Alabama will play No. 4 Washington in the Peach Bowl.

No. 2 Clemson and No. 3 Ohio State will face off in the Fiesta Bowl.


Bama will smoke Washington


Bama Wins. Ohio State wins.

Bama beat Ohio State for the Championship.

People whine over who didn't get to play.
 
Try to comprehend.

I never said Western Michigan was in the running. I was making the point that you cannot argue won-loss record and then switch the argument to conference strength. Pick one. If conference strength is going to factor into it at all, it only makes sense that the champion of the toughest conference would be included.

Um, I'll try to type slower this time, and put it in all caps for you: WESTERN MICHIGAN AND THEIR UNDEFEATED MAC SEASON ARE IRRELEVANT TO THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE EVERYBODY AND THEIR BROTHER KNOWS THAT THEY ARE NOT ONE OF THE TOP FOUR TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY, AND THUS, THEY WEREN'T EVEN CONSIDERED BY THE COMMITTEE FOR THE PLAYOFF.

My point was and remains that Ohio State deserves to be in the final four over Penn State because they lost one less game. I never "switched the argument to conference strength" because, obviously, these two schools play in the very same conference.

Try to comprehend.
 
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