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Godell is mad at the Pats, so someone has to pay the price. They're actually talking fines, suspensions, and lost draft picks for Cleveland.
Clowns to face severe punishment for texting
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They will come down hard on the Stains and Falcons but will let the Cheats skate.
The Pats** cheat and win the SB.
The Browns cheat and improve to less than mediocre.
Cheating. You're not doing it right.
The Browns cheat and improve to less than mediocre.
Cheating. You're not doing it right.
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Browns will lose a draft pick, NE will be fined $50 and all of the balls will be shredded and then incinerated.
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You notice how fast God-Del has acted on the Browns and Atlanta yet his mouth is closed on his buddies in new England. We all know as long as the press stayed on the air balls that something was there, yet God-del once more lets his chosen one slide by. We all know why Lynch ( wrong hat) and the drop pants acts in the Super bowl were not fined, so once again he does not have to act on the darlings of the East. God-del's inconsistency in his actions is such a turn off, he should be happy there is Fantasy Football to keep interest of fans up.
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Breakdown of the browns internal dysfunction.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...on-manziel-starts-with-owner-haslams-meddling
The Cliff's Notes version
Owner Haslem is a cross between Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones, impulsive and thinks he knows football.
Browns had a deal with 49ers to trade Gordon for 2nd rounder and Haslem stopped it.
Haslam has had problems hiring people because he fires people so quickly. He fired his GM, Lombardi, and nobody would take the job so he had to promote some assistant.
The team Pres is a number cruncher who wants to be GM. He was texting browns coaches during games which is not allowed.
Browns scouts had Carr and Bridgewater ahead of Manziel. Owner demanded Manziel and forced coaches to play him.
Manziel was often late and they had to have security go get him out of bed and found him smashed.
The team doesn't like Manziel. He eats alone and wears headphones to not talk to teammates.
Other first rounder Cb Justin Gilbert is lazy and stupid
When Josh Gordon finally got to play, he was out of shape and didn't care. His attitude started rubbing off on young players.
Kyle Shanahan put together a 30 point presentation on why Browns should let him leave.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...on-manziel-starts-with-owner-haslams-meddling
The Cliff's Notes version
Owner Haslem is a cross between Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones, impulsive and thinks he knows football.
Browns had a deal with 49ers to trade Gordon for 2nd rounder and Haslem stopped it.
Haslam has had problems hiring people because he fires people so quickly. He fired his GM, Lombardi, and nobody would take the job so he had to promote some assistant.
The team Pres is a number cruncher who wants to be GM. He was texting browns coaches during games which is not allowed.
Browns scouts had Carr and Bridgewater ahead of Manziel. Owner demanded Manziel and forced coaches to play him.
Manziel was often late and they had to have security go get him out of bed and found him smashed.
The team doesn't like Manziel. He eats alone and wears headphones to not talk to teammates.
Other first rounder Cb Justin Gilbert is lazy and stupid
When Josh Gordon finally got to play, he was out of shape and didn't care. His attitude started rubbing off on young players.
Kyle Shanahan put together a 30 point presentation on why Browns should let him leave.
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How bad it has gotten in Cleveland
The culture in the Browns building is toxic, I'm told. Morale is beyond low. If you can flee, you are fleeing. There is no shortage of individuals throughout that organization who would, like former offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, get the hell out of there if at all possible. There's an overwhelming sense of dread about the future and a fear that, come the end of the 2015 season, Haslam will do the one thing he has managed to do with any consistency during his three-season reign -- that is, blow up his entire building once again and fire everyone, in essence blaming all but himself for his sweeping failure.
The Browns are a mess, and look nowhere but the very top as to why. This offseason is barely a month old, and already we have seen the best coach on the team's staff, Shanahan, allowed to walk away by working out a settlement after just one season there in which he did an outstanding job, bereft of talent, only to become the hottest offensive coordinator candidate in the NFL.
The coach's handpicked quarterback, Johnny Manziel, is in rehab after a rookie season marred by late arrivals to work, team security having to be sent to find him at his apartment, late-night incidents with fans, rampant immaturity and complete debacles on the field in practice and his brief appearances in games. His prized receiver, Josh Gordon, who the quickly-fired duo of Mike Lombardi and Joe Banner had dealt to San Francisco in 2013 for a second-round pick and other compensation before Haslam axed the deal, is suspended, again, for at least another year. This, after his return from suspension in 2014 with uninspired and out-of-shape efforts actually served to torpedo and not boost Cleveland's season.
The tension between the front office and coaching staff is palpable around the team facility, sources said, with friction growing between Farmer and rookie head coach Mike Pettine throughout the 2014 season. It became clear that the front office wanted Manziel -- the owner's boy -- playing sooner and put pressure on the staff to make the change from Brian Hoyer.
"Jimmy is way too hands on," said one team source. "He's like Jerry Jones, only without the football knowledge. There's tension between Alec and Pettine. Everybody sees that. Alec is involved in everything; it's too much for him. There are no divisions. The guys on the business side want to run football operations. The GM wants to coach the team and have input on play calling. Jimmy calls the shots, and everyone is afraid of him with that quick trigger finger. If you stand up to Jimmy, he's done with you. Jimmy's own worst enemy is Jimmy."
"It's a mess," another team source said. "Everyone is trying to do everyone else's job. It's crazy."
Where things went wrong
Big draft misses Manziel's rookie season could not have been more disappointing -- to the point where now Haslam is plotting trading up to draft Marcus Mariota this spring, sources said -- and Manziel's presence in Cleveland is born of Haslam, sources said. The owner wanted to make a splash, add some pop to his franchise, sell some tickets and jerseys. "That was a business decision," said one source with direct knowledge of the situation. "That's on the owner."
The board in Farmer's office leading up to the draft had three names atop it -- Derek Carr, Teddy Bridgewater and Manziel, in that order, sources said. Cleveland was all in for a quarterback last spring. Banner and Lombardi stocked up on 2014 picks knowing it should be a decent quarterback draft. That included the masterstroke of getting a first-round pick for a first-round bust, Trent Richardson, who they assumed from the prior regime. The organization also spent considerable money on a statistical report assessing all the factors that went into being a successful quarterback. That report suggested drafting Bridgewater.At season's end Shanahan, the lone bright spot on offense, perhaps, presented Pettine with a 32-point presentation on why he wanted to get out of his contract, sources said. And after much deliberation among lawyers and negotiation, in a bizarre precedent, a statement was crafted and Shanahan was a free man. He would end up in Atlanta, a coveted job, and a hiring that Banner, consulting for Falcons owner Arthur Blank, played a role in; Lombardi just won a Super Bowl ring as a personnel advisor to Bill Belichick.
Allowing Shanahan to walk sent shockwaves through the building, with such a talented coach allowed to go at a time when the Browns desperately needed to develop a quarterback and with a quarter of the teams in the NFL needing a new offensive coordinator.
A year ago, Haslam could have been sitting on two-first round picks, two second-round picks (had he allowed the Gordon trade), and two third-round picks, plus $55M in cap space, and a front office that was very high on Bridgewater and Odell Beckham, Jr., and had already ridden the team of previous draft failures like Richardson and Brandon Weeden.
It wasn't nearly enough to merit a second season on the job. You have to wonder, under Haslam, as long as he is this involved, if anything ever will. You have to wonder if this week -- with Manziel in rehab and Gordon banished from the league for 2015 -- is rock bottom for the Browns. You have to wonder if things will ever change.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jaso...s-mismanagement
The culture in the Browns building is toxic, I'm told. Morale is beyond low. If you can flee, you are fleeing. There is no shortage of individuals throughout that organization who would, like former offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, get the hell out of there if at all possible. There's an overwhelming sense of dread about the future and a fear that, come the end of the 2015 season, Haslam will do the one thing he has managed to do with any consistency during his three-season reign -- that is, blow up his entire building once again and fire everyone, in essence blaming all but himself for his sweeping failure.
The Browns are a mess, and look nowhere but the very top as to why. This offseason is barely a month old, and already we have seen the best coach on the team's staff, Shanahan, allowed to walk away by working out a settlement after just one season there in which he did an outstanding job, bereft of talent, only to become the hottest offensive coordinator candidate in the NFL.
The coach's handpicked quarterback, Johnny Manziel, is in rehab after a rookie season marred by late arrivals to work, team security having to be sent to find him at his apartment, late-night incidents with fans, rampant immaturity and complete debacles on the field in practice and his brief appearances in games. His prized receiver, Josh Gordon, who the quickly-fired duo of Mike Lombardi and Joe Banner had dealt to San Francisco in 2013 for a second-round pick and other compensation before Haslam axed the deal, is suspended, again, for at least another year. This, after his return from suspension in 2014 with uninspired and out-of-shape efforts actually served to torpedo and not boost Cleveland's season.
The tension between the front office and coaching staff is palpable around the team facility, sources said, with friction growing between Farmer and rookie head coach Mike Pettine throughout the 2014 season. It became clear that the front office wanted Manziel -- the owner's boy -- playing sooner and put pressure on the staff to make the change from Brian Hoyer.
"Jimmy is way too hands on," said one team source. "He's like Jerry Jones, only without the football knowledge. There's tension between Alec and Pettine. Everybody sees that. Alec is involved in everything; it's too much for him. There are no divisions. The guys on the business side want to run football operations. The GM wants to coach the team and have input on play calling. Jimmy calls the shots, and everyone is afraid of him with that quick trigger finger. If you stand up to Jimmy, he's done with you. Jimmy's own worst enemy is Jimmy."
"It's a mess," another team source said. "Everyone is trying to do everyone else's job. It's crazy."
Where things went wrong
Big draft misses Manziel's rookie season could not have been more disappointing -- to the point where now Haslam is plotting trading up to draft Marcus Mariota this spring, sources said -- and Manziel's presence in Cleveland is born of Haslam, sources said. The owner wanted to make a splash, add some pop to his franchise, sell some tickets and jerseys. "That was a business decision," said one source with direct knowledge of the situation. "That's on the owner."
The board in Farmer's office leading up to the draft had three names atop it -- Derek Carr, Teddy Bridgewater and Manziel, in that order, sources said. Cleveland was all in for a quarterback last spring. Banner and Lombardi stocked up on 2014 picks knowing it should be a decent quarterback draft. That included the masterstroke of getting a first-round pick for a first-round bust, Trent Richardson, who they assumed from the prior regime. The organization also spent considerable money on a statistical report assessing all the factors that went into being a successful quarterback. That report suggested drafting Bridgewater.At season's end Shanahan, the lone bright spot on offense, perhaps, presented Pettine with a 32-point presentation on why he wanted to get out of his contract, sources said. And after much deliberation among lawyers and negotiation, in a bizarre precedent, a statement was crafted and Shanahan was a free man. He would end up in Atlanta, a coveted job, and a hiring that Banner, consulting for Falcons owner Arthur Blank, played a role in; Lombardi just won a Super Bowl ring as a personnel advisor to Bill Belichick.
Allowing Shanahan to walk sent shockwaves through the building, with such a talented coach allowed to go at a time when the Browns desperately needed to develop a quarterback and with a quarter of the teams in the NFL needing a new offensive coordinator.
A year ago, Haslam could have been sitting on two-first round picks, two second-round picks (had he allowed the Gordon trade), and two third-round picks, plus $55M in cap space, and a front office that was very high on Bridgewater and Odell Beckham, Jr., and had already ridden the team of previous draft failures like Richardson and Brandon Weeden.
It wasn't nearly enough to merit a second season on the job. You have to wonder, under Haslam, as long as he is this involved, if anything ever will. You have to wonder if this week -- with Manziel in rehab and Gordon banished from the league for 2015 -- is rock bottom for the Browns. You have to wonder if things will ever change.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jaso...s-mismanagement
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Cleveland gon' Cleveland ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wonder how long until the league forces Haslam out?
Makes you wonder how much longer Pettine would want to stick around. I like him as a coach. He did well with what he had in Cleveland. He'd make a great coach anywhere. Especially a team that truly wants to turn around.
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You know, I get the hole hating Goodell thing, it makes since. But at least know your facts before you spout off about this ****. "Deflate-gate" was brought to the attention of the media after the AFC Championship game. The Browns texting incident was brought to light when Shanahan was trying to leave, the league stated AT THAT TIME they would look into it. The Atlanta noise complaint was also brought to light following the final game of the year for them. Nothing Goodell does is "fast".
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A year ago, Haslam could have been sitting on two-first round picks, two second-round picks (had he allowed the Gordon trade), and two third-round picks, plus $55M in cap space, and a front office that was very high on Bridgewater and Odell Beckham, Jr
that's the part that stings the most for them
that's the part that stings the most for them
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This is why they are the Browns. Bridgewater and Beckham in round one and everything else in the draft is just a bonus. With the talent they have on the offensive line, you would have had an offense that would carry the team for a lot of success for the next five to seven years at the least.
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Not sure you can judge a draft pick after one year. However, even if the clowns drafted Dan Marino they'd still find a way to screw it up. That's what makes them the clowns. They've had a few good players over the years like Thomas and Cribbs. But they still find ways to lose.
They finally get the river fire out and Haslem hands them a burning rag.
Poor Cleveland.
Poor Cleveland.
Jimmy's gettin' upset.
Jimmy is sweet on Elaine...
How bad is THAT???
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I truely do feel for the LOYAL TRUE clowns fan. They have been put through the ringer on many many many many instances. It truely is a "Factory of Doom" as one would say. That said, they seem to breing a lot oin themselves. Weather it is owner or player, it does seem to happen more often than n ormal. Fluck the clowns, but feel for the truely loyal fan.
Salute the nation
Salute the nation