Classroom: Ben blind to Belichick’s disguises ?

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Historically this was the fourth-worst season debut for Roethlisberger as he began his 16th NFL season. He finished the game with 27 completions on 47 attempts for 276 yards, no touchdowns, one interception, a sack taken for a 6-yard loss and a fumble.
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[Steeltime]

Good article. Roethlisberger missed a lot of very open receivers, trying to force the ball to guys like Mongrief and Switzer.

 

[black and gold apex]

So Ben is the one and only bad player . Lets see coaches made no changes, blocking scheme stayed the same, same personnel on field making no plays. Dropped balls, receivers could not get open, players could not make two and one yard first downs. Tomlin kicks field goal on fourth and one as full back does not get in game. Yea Ben is terrible.

 

[Steeltime]

So Ben is the one and only bad player . Lets see coaches made no changes, blocking scheme stayed the same, same personnel on field making no plays. Dropped balls, receivers could not get open, players could not make two and one yard first downs. Tomlin kicks field goal on fourth and one as full back does not get in game. Yea Ben is terrible.

Uhhhh ... no?

The article simply showed that Ben missed several wide open receivers for very nice gains.

And has anything I have posted, ever, in the history of the universe, absolve Mongrief, Tomlin and Buttlick from blame?!?

 

[Coryea]

I can't read the article, but open WR's? Where? He didn't play well, but add 6 drops to his total and that 33 for 47. Washington caught a long ball, then looked back for a flag and ran out of bounds, that should've been a TD and extra 40 yards. Moncrief ran the absolute wrong route in the endzone, if he turns toward the pylon like he's supposed to, that's an easy 6 (if he catches it) That's 34 for 47 for two TD's and around 325 yards. Typical media guys, brings up none of that, but throws in the INT with 3 minutes left when he was just throwing it downfield hoping something would happen.

 

[steelhurt]

A lot of garbage time stats though Tom when the game was way out of reach.
Let’s face it, they all sucked, Ben, Connor, Washington, Switzer, Mondrops, no one got open. The game plan totally sucked on both sides of the ball.
I just want to follow Ben’s advice when he said he played bad and he’s putting it behind him and controlling what he can, the next game. I’m totally putting this game behind me and taking a positive approach to the next game.
But I will add, if Mondrops has anywhere near a poor outing as Sunday and Tomless keeps him in, I may have to take a siesta from this team until Tomless is ******* gone.


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[Vader]

I love Ben but he didn't play well at all. One issue is just because you see a WR wide open doesn't mean the QBs sees them if the ball isn't designed to go there. I listened to Ben talk about one throw where AB was bitching about Ben not throwing him the ball when he was wide open. Ben said he didn't see him because the play wasn't to that side. AB shouldn't even be on that side. But to the fans it looks like Ben screwed up. So just because they are open doesn't mean Ben missed them. It could mean they ran the wrong way and the play was to the other side.

 

[Steeltime]

I can't read the article, but open WR's? Where?

The article links several gif's where Juju is open, or Washington is open, or Juju is open again.

And I mean very open.

 

[Steeltime]

I love Ben but he didn't play well at all. One issue is just because you see a WR wide open doesn't mean the QBs sees them if the ball isn't designed to go there. I listened to Ben talk about one throw where AB was bitching about Ben not throwing him the ball when he was wide open. Ben said he didn't see him because the play wasn't to that side. AB shouldn't even be on that side.

That's what the article talks about - Ben recognizing where his receiver is likely to be open and finding him. Four gif's showed Ben looking just one direction, while Juju or Washington or whoever is very much open on the other side for an easy completion and a nice gain.

It's on Ben to read the defenses and find the open guy. Good heavens, his first two years, Whisenhunt designed the playbook to have him look just one side of the field, to make his reads easier. Those days are loooooong gone.

So Ben should and can get better at finding the open receivers - like the opposing QB seems to do relentlessly against the Steelers. Do we think every wide open receiver was due to scheme? Or maybe opposing QB's just sees what the defense is doing, shutting down the primary receiver, but finding the guy on the other side wide open due to the resources spent in shutting down his primary.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Ben's a meathead. A winner, but a meathead. You couple that intellect with a Tomlin plan, and you get what you get.

 

[Hines57]

I can't read the article, but open WR's? Where? He didn't play well, but add 6 drops to his total and that 33 for 47. Washington caught a long ball, then looked back for a flag and ran out of bounds, that should've been a TD and extra 40 yards. Moncrief ran the absolute wrong route in the endzone, if he turns toward the pylon like he's supposed to, that's an easy 6 (if he catches it) That's 34 for 47 for two TD's and around 325 yards. Typical media guys, brings up none of that, but throws in the INT with 3 minutes left when he was just throwing it downfield hoping something would happen.

Lots of plays where Ben isn't checking both sides of the fields. There were open receivers for him to hit. He missed them

 

[Vader]

That's what the article talks about - Ben recognizing where his receiver is likely to be open and finding him. Four gif's showed Ben looking just one direction, while Juju or Washington or whoever is very much open on the other side for an easy completion and a nice gain.

It's on Ben to read the defenses and find the open guy. Good heavens, his first two years, Whisenhunt designed the playbook to have him look just one side of the field, to make his reads easier. Those days are loooooong gone.

So Ben should and can get better at finding the open receivers - like the opposing QB seems to do relentlessly against the Steelers. Do we think every wide open receiver was due to scheme? Or maybe opposing QB's just sees what the defense is doing, shutting down the primary receiver, but finding the guy on the other side wide open due to the resources spent in shutting down his primary.

I watched the game and saw the same thing. However, I'm not going to argue with the QB when he said that in their scheme they only use one side at times. I don't know. I'm not in the room when they plan it. I can tell, like everyone else, that Ben only looks to one side at times. Obviously it's planned that way. My guess is that the OC or HC sits down and figure out who they want to be the #1 weapon for that week and then have Ben focus on that guy for a number of set plays. Last week it was Moncrief. Maybe next week it will be JuJu... I don't know.

 

[GMC]

When the hell did he have time to get beyond his first read? The damn o-line suddenly forgot how to pass block since Munchak left. Funny how so many so called football experts don't understand play design and progressions.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

When the hell did he have time to get beyond his first read? The damn o-line suddenly forgot how to pass block since Munchak left. Funny how so many so called football experts don't understand play design and progressions.

He had time.

 

[Coryea]

I watched the game and saw the same thing. However, I'm not going to argue with the QB when he said that in their scheme they only use one side at times. I don't know. I'm not in the room when they plan it. I can tell, like everyone else, that Ben only looks to one side at times. Obviously it's planned that way. My guess is that the OC or HC sits down and figure out who they want to be the #1 weapon for that week and then have Ben focus on that guy for a number of set plays. Last week it was Moncrief. Maybe next week it will be JuJu... I don't know.

Alot of it is designed to go to the first guy quickly, which I don't like really. Like the int vs Denver last season, it's bang bang fake the handoff then just throw, no reads, just throw. Part of the reason he gets rid of the ball quicker than any other QB

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[CharlesDavenport]

Alot of it is designed to go to the first guy quickly, which I don't like really. Like the int vs Denver last season, it's bang bang fake the handoff then just throw, no reads, just throw. Part of the reason he gets rid of the ball quicker than any other QB

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Brady rutted us with play action up the middle and quick throws. Worked every time for them.

 

[Coryea]

Brady rutted us with play action up the middle and quick throws. Worked every time for them.

Yeah and they didn't even establish a running game, it's hard for us to go play fake because we run so many no back sets, which I don't like, at least give the defense the thought it may be a running play.