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Caushaud Lyons - the small-school DE deemed worthy of a 53-man roster spot

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Who is this mystery man? How good do the Steelers think he can be if they were willing to cut Grant/Chickillo to open up a spot for him?

At first glance, there's very little info on this guy, so I did a little digging...but there really isn't much out there on this kid. The one thing I can think of is John Mitchell worked him out at some point and made a note to himself that he MUST have this guy on the squad. Then why didn't they draft him? He may have had a sack or two in pre-season playing against scrubs, perhaps he put something on tape during those four games that caught the Steelers eye. I have no answers, scratching my head. If anything, he seems like a solid prospect who's a couple of years away from being able to contribute. Why not the practice squad?

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5 Things to Know About Caushaud Lyons
http://www.buccaneers.com/news/arti...ud-Lyons/3ad64b59-ac75-4fa9-9ea6-41850217d869

1. He was one of the best Division II linemen in the country.
Lyons was a finalist for the Gene Upshaw award in 2014, which is given annually to the best Division II lineman in the nation.

2. Analysts projected him to be drafted.
NFL.com graded Lyons as a sixth or seventh-round prospect. “Big and raw with a tremendous amount to learn about playing the position, but with the athleticism and talent that warrants close inspection,” they wrote. “Lyons is lacking many of the basics needed at the position and a team will have to have a plan for him that involves teaching and a great deal of patience. If he can learn to use his hands properly and add a little more nasty, he could become an intriguing 3*-4 defensive end down the line.”

3. He lives in the weight room.
Lyons’ 325-pound clean was the most among his teammates at Tusculum. He also recorded a 475-pound bench press and 600-pound squat. In his bio on Tusculum’s website, Lyons said he would like to one day own a gym.

4. He had an impressive pro day.
Lyons ran a 4.87-second 40-yard dash at his pro day along with a 30.5-inch vertical jump and 10-foot broad jump.

5. He was a multi-sport athlete growing up.
In addition to football, Lyons played basketball and ran track when he was younger.

NFL.com draft profile
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/caushaud-lyons?id=2553341

Strengths
Prototype frame to be a 3*-4 end. Extremely athletic with plus explosiveness for his size. Ran a sub 4.9-second 40-yard dash at his pro day with a 10-foot broad jump. Explosive quickness out of stance that can be harnessed with better pad level and more coaching. Shows off agile feet when sliding down the line of scrimmage after a ball carrier. Overwhelmed competition once he took the lead on a snap.

Weaknesses
Very basic use of hands. Needs to learn to punch, extend and shed blockers. Still developing as a pass rusher and will often just try to win with brute force. Motor doesn't always rev. Often overwhelmed much smaller competition in front of him. Needs to keep pad level down.

Draft Projection Round 6 or 7

Bottom Line Big and raw with a tremendous amount to learn about playing the position, but with the athleticism and talent that warrants close inspection. Lyons is lacking many of the basics needed at the position and a team will have to have a plan for him that involves teaching and a great deal of patience. If he can learn to use his hands properly and add a little more nasty, he could become an intriguing 3*-4 defensive end down the line.

 
I forgot add to my head-scratching list that we already have a small school, unheralded prospect in LT Walton for John Mitchell to work with and try to develop...now we add another?

I'm not slamming the move by the FO, just trying to wrap my head around it. Maybe this kid is the second coming of JJ Watt and we'll be overjoyed to have him, who knows?
 
Best “Not First Round” Defensive Prospects in the 2015 NFL Draft
http://allgbp.com/2015/04/29/best-not-first-round-defensive-prospects-in-the-2014-nfl-draft-2/

You want small school I’ll give you small school, Caushaud Lyons DE Tusculum 6-4 290# { I had to look up Tusculum} It is actually the oldest college in Tennessee. What is amazing about this prospect is how good an athlete he is. 4.86 40 time 1.71 ten yard. To go with that a 4.55 short shuttle and a 7.51 3 cone drill, 30.5” vert and a 10’ standing long jump with 24 reps @225#. Developmental without a doubt, but he would make a damn fine 3-4 DE.

2015 NFL Draft Thin on Top End D2 Talent
http://www.d2football.com/pros/51/

DL CAUSHAUD LYONS, TUSCULUM
It’s almost a waste to specify which spot on the line Lyons will play because depending on the team you talk to he could fit as an end or tackle in their scheme. His scheme versatility, size (6’4 ½, 284), speed (4.8), and length (34 arm, 84 wing) make him someone to keep an eye on in the late rounds. Lyons did not contribute much as a junior but improved weekly as a senior and is a player with a high upside, just like Robinson. It would be a surprise if he is not drafted, and he could go as high as the 5th round.

NFL Combine Snubs to Keep an Eye on During Draft
http://proplayerinsiders.com/nfl-player-team-news-features/5-nfl-combine-snubs-keep-eye-draft/

DE/DT CAUSHAUD LYONS, TUSCULUM
During this time of year people are buzzing on so many of the wrong players and to date very little talk has been focused on Lyons but he may shock a lot of people on draft day. Early in his film eval I saw him as just a free agent due to size and flashes but he is a big, versatile body who can play either in a 3-4 or 4-3 and runs well. While he plays high he has a lot of athletic upside. During his pro day workout he ran a 4.8 40 at 6’4 ½, 284 pounds with a 30 ½ inch vertical, 10’0 broad jump, 1.71 10-yard, and did 24 bench reps. Lyons had a solid performance at the Medal of Honor Bowl as well. According to our sources, he did well at his workout and has a lot of visits lined up. The 2014 1st-team All-SAC selection who had 89 tackles, 19 tackles for loss, and 9 sacks may be a top 200 pick.

Eagles Draft Buzz:
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/04/01/eagles-draft-buzz-mock-roundup-2/

Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports that the Eagles were represented at Tusculum's pro day and worked out an intriguing defensive lineman:

The standout player from this pro day was Caushaud Lyons (6-foot-4 1/2, 284 pounds), a defensive lineman. He ran a 4.86 and 4.87 in the 40. He had a 30 1/2-inch vertical and a 10-foot broad jump. He had a 4.55 short shuttle and 7.51 3-cone drill. He has 34 1/8-inch arms and 24 strength lifts. The Eagles worked Lyons out for about 15 minutes, and he has very good quickness for a player his size. Lyons has visits with six teams lined up.
 
Didn't we used to have a player from Tusculum?
 
Looks like the focus will be put on the DL to get sacks
 
Seems to me our staff cannot get past the 'hurt feelings' that might be caused by ditching some early picks while at the same time, allowing later picks to leave without any afterthought. While Chick and Grant didn't look like potential superstars...they are better than players running ahead of them who have been around long enough to have developed.
 
There is still time for roster moves, but you cannot convince me Green and Fort earned a spot on the practice squad over Chickillo.
 
Can he play safety?
 
There is still time for roster moves, but you cannot convince me Green and Fort earned a spot on the practice squad over Chickillo.

I think that Chickillo and Grant have to clear waivers then they are eligible for the practice squad. I would think that if they initially made the 53 that they would try to keep them and sign them to the practice squad.
 
Can he play safety?

and that is my 5 dollar question moving forward

how does the team have the luxury of keeping two developmental DEs over a veteran S especially after seeing Sham not so Wow, and then gets benched.

Why are they fricken ignoring the weakest position on the team ?

?

got damn it mane
 
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I think that Chickillo and Grant have to clear waivers then they are eligible for the practice squad. I would think that if they initially made the 53 that they would try to keep them and sign them to the practice squad.

You would think, but if they clear waivers and aren't sign I'll be pretty disappointed.
 
You would think, but if they clear waivers and aren't sign I'll be pretty disappointed.

I know. Both seemed to have decent camps although Chickillo seemed to slow down towards the end of camp. What sucks is that dumped a 4th round pick in Grant that has shown a little potential, but keep a 3rd round in Archer that has shown nothing so far.
 
Strange that we cut 4th and 6th round picks to make way for an undrafted guy, Todman you can understand as we are thin at RB but a DE with no experience to the active roster?
 
As crazy as it sounds a temporary move like this had to be done. People forget Tuitt is technically still injured, and if he can't play this Thursday than Cam Thomas starts. If Thomas gets injured or anyone else on the D-line then Walton comes in. If anyone else gets injured then umm.. This guy will have to come in. That's how thin we are at the moment. But I can almost assure you all that once Tuitt is back healthy this guy will be gone and either Chick or Grant will be brought back. Neither put enough on tape to not clear waivers so it shouldn't be a problem getting them back.
 
As crazy as it sounds a temporary move like this had to be done. People forget Tuitt is technically still injured, and if he can't play this Thursday than Cam Thomas starts. If Thomas gets injured or anyone else on the D-line then Walton comes in. If anyone else gets injured then umm.. This guy will have to come in. That's how thin we are at the moment. But I can almost assure you all that once Tuitt is back healthy this guy will be gone and either Chick or Grant will be brought back. Neither put enough on tape to not clear waivers so it shouldn't be a problem getting them back.

Picking up a DE is understandable the confusion for me lays in the fact that DE is an undrafted rookie with no experience at all. Walton was a late round pick also but at least he's been in our system a few months and had time to learn the playbook. They must really like this guys potential.
 
backup....

QB -Experienced vet
RB -Experienced vet
C - Experienced vet
G -Experienced vet
T- Experienced vet - (when Adams returns)
WR -Experienced vet

DE - Experienced vet
CB - 4th corner -Blake can be considered- Experienced vet
ILB- Experienced vet
OLB - Experienced vet
S - Sham not so wow - wasn't good enough to get on the field to get experience

which of these thingssssssssssssss don't belong with the otherrrrrrrrrrrr
 
I know. Both seemed to have decent camps although Chickillo seemed to slow down towards the end of camp. What sucks is that dumped a 4th round pick in Grant that has shown a little potential, but keep a 3rd round in Archer that has shown nothing so far.

You mean disappeared toward the end of camp.
 
During these roster machinations I didn't realize that Legursky was cut on Saturday but then re-signed Sunday.
 
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They beleive in rotating DL early in the year a lot. Still doesn't explain a guy with not experience, though.
 
I guess I'm ok with this kid and I can understand cutting Chicky whom I never understood why they wasted a pick on him but the Grant cut baffles me. I thought for a 4'th round pick he did alright and enough to make the squad. But of course I've been scratching my head now for 9 years with the personnel decisions being made for this football team.
 
I have no issue with keeping a project DE with some potential that was not likely to clear waivers due to the lack of linemen throughout the league. I don't understand the Grant thing though.
 
As crazy as it sounds a temporary move like this had to be done. People forget Tuitt is technically still injured, and if he can't play this Thursday than Cam Thomas starts. If Thomas gets injured or anyone else on the D-line then Walton comes in. If anyone else gets injured then umm.. This guy will have to come in. That's how thin we are at the moment. But I can almost assure you all that once Tuitt is back healthy this guy will be gone and either Chick or Grant will be brought back. Neither put enough on tape to not clear waivers so it shouldn't be a problem getting them back.
I get it...
I have no issue with keeping a project DE with some potential that was not likely to clear waivers due to the lack of linemen throughout the league. I don't understand the Grant thing though.

Same for me....
 
Thing is you are waiting for basically two DEs to get hurt, as opposed to one S gets hurt they are basically screwed.
 
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