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Carnell Lake steps down

Is Scott Shields available, I don't want another DB coach that could lace Em up today and possibly be our best starting safety.
 
I dont mind the odd one but think coaches who were former players in the organization isnt a great idea.
 
SteelerSask said:
I dont mind the odd one but think coaches who were former players in the organization isnt a great idea.
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It's a fine line to be sure. I mean Lake didn't get the job done. Porter isn't getting the job done. And another name that I don't know why isn't getting more heat is Jerry Olsavsky.
Has Jerry developed the ILB any better than Porter has developed the OLB? I mean, shouldn't Olsavsky have been the one to identify Shazier's poor form when making tackles and I dunno, actually fix it? And, given that he has some input on the draft as it pertains to the position he coaches, I'd say he's failed in depth talent evaluation too.

Yep, the ex-player position coaches we have on this team have ALL (except Munch) been sub-par.
 
Tibs said:
Another name I've seen bandied about is Dom Capers, in the mold of the Munchak hire. Capers has been around the block, his specialty is the defensive backfield. Not sure if he's even interested in being a d-back coach at this stage, just thought I'd throw this info out there.
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Now there's a name that resonates memories. At one time he was said to be the real inventor of the "zone blitz" if I recollect correct. He supposedly taught it to LeBeau when they worked together in Pensiltucky.

Dick lebeau..Pittsburgh Steelers (1992–1994)
Defensive backs coach

Dom Capers...Pittsburgh Steelers (1992–1994)
Defensive coordinator.

Dom Capers coming back to Pittsburgh as a DC would be cool if LeBeau came with him to take Lakes place..LOL...never say die you old ********..

Now who is really out there that can mold this green backfield we got, into something ?

Maybe someone with a little shorter resume than this....


Kent State (1972–1974)
Graduate assistant

Washington (1975)
Graduate assistant

Hawaii (1975–1976)
Defensive backs coach

San José State (1977)
Defensive backs coach

California (1978–1979)
Defensive backs coach

Tennessee (1980–1981)
Defensive backs coach

Ohio State (1982–1983)
Defensive backs coach

Philadelphia/Baltimore Stars (1984–1985)
Defensive backs coach

New Orleans Saints (1986–1991)
Defensive backs coach

Pittsburgh Steelers (1992–1994)
Defensive coordinator

Carolina Panthers (1995–1998)
Head coach

Jacksonville Jaguars (1999–2000)
Defensive coordinator

Houston Texans (2002–2005)
Head coach

Miami Dolphins (2006)
Special assistant to head coach

Miami Dolphins (2007)
Defensive coordinator

New England Patriots (2008)
Special assistant & secondary coach

Green Bay Packers (2009–2017)
Defensive coordinator

45 years coachin' football should be enough for anybody.


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SteelBuckeye said:
It's a fine line to be sure. I mean Lake didn't get the job done. Porter isn't getting the job done. And another name that I don't know why isn't getting more heat is Jerry Olsavsky.
Has Jerry developed the ILB any better than Porter has developed the OLB? I mean, shouldn't Olsavsky have been the one to identify Shazier's poor form when making tackles and I dunno, actually fix it? And, given that he has some input on the draft as it pertains to the position he coaches, I'd say he's failed in depth talent evaluation too.

Yep, the ex-player position coaches we have on this team have ALL (except Munch) been sub-par.
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sometimes there is no beating experience, they all had a lack of coaching experience.............
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Is Scott Shields available, I don't want another DB coach that could lace Em up today and possibly be our best starting safety.
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Chad Scott? Dewayne Washington? Tim McKyer?
 
SteelBuckeye said:
It's a fine line to be sure. I mean Lake didn't get the job done. Porter isn't getting the job done. And another name that I don't know why isn't getting more heat is Jerry Olsavsky.
Has Jerry developed the ILB any better than Porter has developed the OLB? I mean, shouldn't Olsavsky have been the one to identify Shazier's poor form when making tackles and I dunno, actually fix it? And, given that he has some input on the draft as it pertains to the position he coaches, I'd say he's failed in depth talent evaluation too.

Yep, the ex-player position coaches we have on this team have ALL (except Munch) been sub-par.
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Jerry Developed Shazier into an All Pro this season, and transformed Williams from a low round draft pick to a starter. Did a fine job with Timmy, but he was already productive before last year. Big Red was projecting up as well until his shoulder sidelined him. So I wouldn't kill Olsavsky for going to his 4th, 5th, 6th options this year.

Still also have to give props to Porter for Watt's first year, but dammit, with JP as your OLB coach you need to have more than one pass rush move Durpee...

Just Hire Dick Lebeau. dude is a HOF DB! Come on, pull the trigger!!
 
the steelers secondary has been without a lot of talent for most of his coaching career really. it seemed a lot of the problems in the secondary this season were just complete blown coverage with wide open receivers. was that on the coach or the players? i think clearly some of them were on the players. i think replacing lake is a good move though considering the lack of growth and great play from the secondary but honestly i cannot say whether lake is at fault here. he may be an excellent coach. it wouldn't surprise me, but i don't know one way or the other. that's the bad part of evaluating position coaches. we can only go by watching "his" players.
 
Cope said:
Jerry Developed Shazier into an All Pro this season, and transformed Williams from a low round draft pick to a starter. Did a fine job with Timmy, but he was already productive before last year. Big Red was projecting up as well until his shoulder sidelined him. So I wouldn't kill Olsavsky for going to his 4th, 5th, 6th options this year.

Still also have to give props to Porter for Watt's first year, but dammit, with JP as your OLB coach you need to have more than one pass rush move Durpee...

Just Hire Dick Lebeau. dude is a HOF DB! Come on, pull the trigger!!
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For me Porter needs to go, he just isn't getting enough out of that group. Same with Lake but he already did us that favor.
 
slashsteel said:
For me Porter needs to go, he just isn't getting enough out of that group. Same with Lake but he already did us that favor.
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I agree but we have to be realistic...Tomlin and Porter have become friends and their families hang out together, so there's that.

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Tibs said:
Another name I've seen bandied about is Dom Capers, in the mold of the Munchak hire. Capers has been around the block, his specialty is the defensive backfield. Not sure if he's even interested in being a d-back coach at this stage, just thought I'd throw this info out there.
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I'd be all for this provided Dom had the strong enough personality to tell Cool Shades to keep his nose to "head coaching" while I take care of this secondary.




Salute the nation
 
AggieSteel said:
Wow the data here is.. incredibly incriminating to a few guys on this defense
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Good read Aggie. Wow. SHAZIER was the lynchpin to the defense. They have to draft his replacement. And the stat on the left side vs the right side is going to piss off the dupree sucks crowd around here for sure
 
Looks like Tomlin found his man.


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Report: Tom Bradley To Be Steelers New DB Coach
http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2018/02/report-tom-bradley-steelers-new-db-coach/

According to a Thursday report by Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network the Pittsburgh Steelers are expected to hire former Penn State and UCLA defensive coordinator Tom Bradley to be their new defensive backs coach.

Bradley, who started his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Penn State in 1979, coached until 2011 at his alma mater. From 2012-2013 he spent time as a color analyst for CBS Sports before being hired by West Virginia in 2014. At West Virginia Bradley was the Senior Associate Head Coach and coached the defensive line.

After one season at West Virginia, Bradley was hired by UCLA to be their defensive coordinator and he lasted three seasons there.

Bradley’s older brother, James Bradley, has been the Steelers team surgeon for over 25 years.
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Welcome home to the Burgh Coach Bradley!

 
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Time will tell but I'm glad they brought in an out of organization type guy. I know his brother is the surgeon but I meant ex-player.
I hope he is an upgrade and can squeeze a little something extra out of our guys. Now to replace Joey and Mitchell.



Salute the nation
 
Confirmed...

Bradley named defensive backs coach
http://www.steelers.com/news/articl...ks-coach/233451fd-a1d6-49b5-95a5-59b4114e2813

Tom Bradley is excited about the new opportunity with the Steelers.
The Steelers hired Tom Bradley as the team's new defensive backs coach.

“I want to thank Coach (Mike) Tomlin and the entire Steelers organization for this opportunity,” said Bradley. “I am excited to be a part of such a rich tradition here. We have a great nucleus in the defensive backs room, and my goal is to help this group continue to grow and develop as we all work toward one goal.”

Bradley, a former defensive back at Penn State University, joined the coaching ranks in 1979 as a graduate assistant at Penn State, and over 30 years at the school worked his way up to defensive coordinator from 2000-2011, and the interim head coach in 2011.

Under Bradley’s guidance, Penn State’s defenses were regularly among the top in the national rankings. From 2004-09 he led Penn State to six consecutive Top 15 finishes in total and scoring defense, and from 2004-11 Penn State held 53 of its 88 opponents to 17 points or fewer, including 10 games in the 2009 season.

In addition, during the span from 2004-11, Penn State’s defense ranked in the Top 10 nationally in points allowed seven times and the Top 20 in total defense seven times. The 2008 Penn State defense was one of only four groups to rank in the Top 10 nationally in rushing, total and scoring defense, as well as lead the Big 10 in both rushing and total defense.

During his time at Penn State the Nittany Lions had 13 double-figure win seasons, 20 seasons with at least nine wins, 27 bowl appearances and won two National Championships. He was named the Rivals Defensive Coordinator of the Year in 2008 and the Associated Press Defensive Coordinator of the Year in 2005.

Bradley spent the 2014 season at West Virginia University where he served as the senior associate head coach. He was the defensive coordinator at UCLA from 2014-17.

In his first season at UCLA the Bruins defense gave up just 4.9 yards per play, the lowest in the Pac-12 conference. The secondary led the conference in fewest yards per game and in team pass defense efficiency. The Bruins matched the 4.9 yards per game in 2016, tying for second in the Pac-12.

Bradley is originally from Johnstown, Pa., and was inducted into the Western Pennsylvania Sports Hall of Fame in May of 2014.

Bradley is replacing Carnell Lake, who stepped down to spend more time with his family.
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