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Back in the day 1st round pick used to hold out. These days most of them are in signed before camp opens.
When it comes to rookies that are 1st or 2nd round picks, I understand mental mistakes / learning process, but expect them to flash ability during camp and the pre-season games, giving an indication they have NFL upside.
There are four types of rookies:
1 ) Those who quickly learn the system, and show physical ability. These types are uncommon, and should be integrated into the first string unit during the pre-season games.
2 ) Those who are raw or need to learn a lot more, but flash the physical ability to make fans anxious to see him play more.
3 ) Those who quickly learn the system, but do not show enough physical ability ( too small, too slow, too weak, ect.. ) to be anything but 2nd or 3rd string.
4 ) Those who are raw, and do not show enough physical ability.
So do we have any type 1's? Yes, for a sub package I think we do and his name is Javon Hargrave. Hargrave is a very quick gap shooting 3 or 1 technique Defensive tackle, and I think he can help us as a rookie in our 4 man fronts with the pass rush. I think fans are going to have to be very patient with Burns, and suspect Davis might have some major issues in coverage.
When it comes to rookies that are 1st or 2nd round picks, I understand mental mistakes / learning process, but expect them to flash ability during camp and the pre-season games, giving an indication they have NFL upside.
There are four types of rookies:
1 ) Those who quickly learn the system, and show physical ability. These types are uncommon, and should be integrated into the first string unit during the pre-season games.
2 ) Those who are raw or need to learn a lot more, but flash the physical ability to make fans anxious to see him play more.
3 ) Those who quickly learn the system, but do not show enough physical ability ( too small, too slow, too weak, ect.. ) to be anything but 2nd or 3rd string.
4 ) Those who are raw, and do not show enough physical ability.
So do we have any type 1's? Yes, for a sub package I think we do and his name is Javon Hargrave. Hargrave is a very quick gap shooting 3 or 1 technique Defensive tackle, and I think he can help us as a rookie in our 4 man fronts with the pass rush. I think fans are going to have to be very patient with Burns, and suspect Davis might have some major issues in coverage.
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he took so long to sign because ...
- he went to the Steelers facility running and his 40 Yd dash is too slow
- his football IQ is too low and took him forever to read the contract
- he doesn't have proper technique with the pen
- he went to the Steelers facility running and his 40 Yd dash is too slow
- his football IQ is too low and took him forever to read the contract
- he doesn't have proper technique with the pen
picture is staged. he's left-handed and kept smearing the ink.
Maybe we can have Gay... Burns in the slot now.
I think the really hard positions to learn are: QB obvious, Oline (you can't get by on physical attributes like strength and there are so many line adjustments), Dline (ours especially) Lots of technique, Receiver (Route adjustment and preciseness) are big differences.
I think Running backs can generally jump in immediately and linebackers and DB's (especially corners) can be easily incorporated into sub package situations. He won't start, but probably ends up playing about half the snaps.
I think Running backs can generally jump in immediately and linebackers and DB's (especially corners) can be easily incorporated into sub package situations. He won't start, but probably ends up playing about half the snaps.
Punter must be difficult.
watch for snap. catch. kick the shitoutof.
watch for snap. catch. kick the shitoutof.
good point Sup. but most of the time kickers and punters bum around a couple years trying to find a job.
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I've always told my wife that if we have a son, (miraculously. I'm positive that karma will only ever deal me daughters) I'm going to teach that kid to be a punter. Like that's your goal. Punt the football. Never get touched, you can stick around forever and even if you suck a team will bring you in
Maybe we can have Gay... Burns in the slot now.
It is Gay- **** on the outside, and Burns in the slot. That's the Gol-son.
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and if the Browns call, don't answer the phone or fake an injury.
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A lot of parents have been thinking that since 1995, which is why drafting a punter is stupid and overpaying a punter is stupid.
There are TONS of kids out there that basically been brought up to be punters. They might play soccer and other sports, but they know if they go to the specialized punter camps (they exist: https://www.prokicker.com/), it can be the ticket to a $1 million/year job.
These kids are everywhere and the dropoff between the 32 current "pro" punters and them is surprisingly miniscule.
With all the injuries and concussion protocols, it's much better to have a $2 million backup or rotational player at an important position and a $1 million punter than a $3 million punter.
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Oh come on! Nobody with a Mr. Burns meme yet??!
Fine, I'll do it!
Fine, I'll do it!
Steelers rookie CB Burns gets trial by fire versus All-Pro Brown in OTAs
Mark Kaboly BY MARK KABOLY
Thursday, June 9, 2016, 6:15 p.m.
Updated 14 hours ago
First-round pick Artie Burns has matched up with All-Pro receiver Antonio Brown for much of organized team activities. “I get frustrated at times, but again, he is the best in the league,” Burns said. “That just pushes me to come back and make the next play against him. Day by day, I am getting better.'
First-round pick Artie Burns has matched up with All-Pro receiver Antonio Brown for much of organized team activities. “I get frustrated at times, but again, he is the best in the league,” Burns said. “That just pushes me to come back and make the next play against him. Day by day, I am getting better.'
PHOTO BY CHAZ PALLA | TRIBUNE-REVIEW
It could have been just a coincidence that Artie Burns was matched up against Antonio Brown on the first play of organized team activities a few weeks ago.
Even the second play could have been by happenstance.
Three weeks later, it still is occurring on a regular basis. There's no denying that it's all by design.
Steelers defensive coordinator Keith Butler isn't hiding the fact that anytime their All-Pro receiver is on the field, their rookie first-rounder from Miami (Fla.) is lined up across from him.
“I want him to learn as much as he can,” Butler said Thursday as the Steelers wrapped up three weeks of OTAs at UPMC Rooney Sports Complex. “As much as we can, we have to single up with him. Ross (Cockrell) did that last year and that helped him, I think.”
So whether it is during seven-on-seven or full 11-on-11 team drills over the past three weeks, it has been Brown versus Burns.
Burns was told almost immediately after he was drafted 25th overall in April's draft that he was going to be pitted against Brown as much as possible.
“They told me, and I said I am ready to work,” Burns said.
Burns said around “75-80” percent of the time he has been matched up against Brown during OTAs. He has won some but lost a lot more.
“I get frustrated at times, but again, he is the best in the league,” Burns said. “That just pushes me to come back and make the next play against him. Day by day, I am getting better,” Burns said.
To Butler, getting frustrated is perfect. Butler enjoys seeing Burns fail against Brown and have his confidence waver, just to see how the rookie reacts.
“(Confidence) is going to be shattered in the game, too, so you better have a short memory,” Butler said. “They are going to sometimes get beat. How they come back from that is what matters. If they go into the tank, then they don't belong in the NFL. Guys who can perform under pressure usually can last in this league.”
Putting Burns against Brown is part of a master plan of trying to fast-track the rookie into the lineup.
The Steelers used a first-round pick on a cornerback for the first time in nearly 20 years to help a secondary that has talent but is unproven. Beyond William Gay, the most experienced corner is Cockrell — and he has played just a little more than 700 snaps, of which 90 percent came last year.
The Steelers figure the combination of Gay, Cockrell and 2015 second-round pick Senquez Golson will hold down the position until Burns is ready.
Golson missed all of last year with a shoulder injury, and he has missed the majority of OTAs this year with a lower-body injury that isn't expected to be serious.
Still, the Steelers know that Burns will be called upon to help this season. Whether it's as a Week 1 starter or as a role player is yet to be determined.
“I don't want to make any predictions right now on him,” Butler said. “I like what I have seen so far. He is really battling receivers that we got and is learning a lot. The good thing about him that I do like is his work ethic. He is always wanting to learn, he is always asking questions and he is always in meetings after.”
Brown, who has 375 catches over the past three years, is impressed with what he's seen from Burns.
“Artie has potential to be special,” Brown said. “He is a corner who has a lot of detail. He just needs to work on some little things. I have been in his head as far as what he can do to get better.”
Mark Kaboly BY MARK KABOLY
Thursday, June 9, 2016, 6:15 p.m.
Updated 14 hours ago
First-round pick Artie Burns has matched up with All-Pro receiver Antonio Brown for much of organized team activities. “I get frustrated at times, but again, he is the best in the league,” Burns said. “That just pushes me to come back and make the next play against him. Day by day, I am getting better.'
First-round pick Artie Burns has matched up with All-Pro receiver Antonio Brown for much of organized team activities. “I get frustrated at times, but again, he is the best in the league,” Burns said. “That just pushes me to come back and make the next play against him. Day by day, I am getting better.'
PHOTO BY CHAZ PALLA | TRIBUNE-REVIEW
It could have been just a coincidence that Artie Burns was matched up against Antonio Brown on the first play of organized team activities a few weeks ago.
Even the second play could have been by happenstance.
Three weeks later, it still is occurring on a regular basis. There's no denying that it's all by design.
Steelers defensive coordinator Keith Butler isn't hiding the fact that anytime their All-Pro receiver is on the field, their rookie first-rounder from Miami (Fla.) is lined up across from him.
“I want him to learn as much as he can,” Butler said Thursday as the Steelers wrapped up three weeks of OTAs at UPMC Rooney Sports Complex. “As much as we can, we have to single up with him. Ross (Cockrell) did that last year and that helped him, I think.”
So whether it is during seven-on-seven or full 11-on-11 team drills over the past three weeks, it has been Brown versus Burns.
Burns was told almost immediately after he was drafted 25th overall in April's draft that he was going to be pitted against Brown as much as possible.
“They told me, and I said I am ready to work,” Burns said.
Burns said around “75-80” percent of the time he has been matched up against Brown during OTAs. He has won some but lost a lot more.
“I get frustrated at times, but again, he is the best in the league,” Burns said. “That just pushes me to come back and make the next play against him. Day by day, I am getting better,” Burns said.
To Butler, getting frustrated is perfect. Butler enjoys seeing Burns fail against Brown and have his confidence waver, just to see how the rookie reacts.
“(Confidence) is going to be shattered in the game, too, so you better have a short memory,” Butler said. “They are going to sometimes get beat. How they come back from that is what matters. If they go into the tank, then they don't belong in the NFL. Guys who can perform under pressure usually can last in this league.”
Putting Burns against Brown is part of a master plan of trying to fast-track the rookie into the lineup.
The Steelers used a first-round pick on a cornerback for the first time in nearly 20 years to help a secondary that has talent but is unproven. Beyond William Gay, the most experienced corner is Cockrell — and he has played just a little more than 700 snaps, of which 90 percent came last year.
The Steelers figure the combination of Gay, Cockrell and 2015 second-round pick Senquez Golson will hold down the position until Burns is ready.
Golson missed all of last year with a shoulder injury, and he has missed the majority of OTAs this year with a lower-body injury that isn't expected to be serious.
Still, the Steelers know that Burns will be called upon to help this season. Whether it's as a Week 1 starter or as a role player is yet to be determined.
“I don't want to make any predictions right now on him,” Butler said. “I like what I have seen so far. He is really battling receivers that we got and is learning a lot. The good thing about him that I do like is his work ethic. He is always wanting to learn, he is always asking questions and he is always in meetings after.”
Brown, who has 375 catches over the past three years, is impressed with what he's seen from Burns.
“Artie has potential to be special,” Brown said. “He is a corner who has a lot of detail. He just needs to work on some little things. I have been in his head as far as what he can do to get better.”
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I guess you don't remember Terrance Garvin just destroying the Bungles punter a few years ago. Would not have liked to be him....
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If it were that EASY, then all Austrailians would be doing it !!!!!!!!
Salute the nation
dont forget all new zealanders and uk soccer kids who could not make it pro