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Buckle-up boys! One week from today. Finally!

I watched the guy play. He made all the throws with poise and he can run enough. Haven't seen that from Allar. Don't care which one is the dude. Just don't like anointing someone based on probably an over draft reach.
Not anointing anyone. It's about possibilities. Allar has an elite arm. Howard doesn't. Allars upside is greater than Howard's but yes Allar has to change a lot of things to get there. Do you think for 5 rounds, NFL owners, GMs, coaches and scouts passed up Will 150 times because they thought it would be fun, but secretly thought of him as a frachise QB? ? I've never seen a fan base get so optimistic about a 5th round QB that didnt play a snap his first full year
 
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Not anointing anyone. It's about possibilities. Allar has an elite arm. Howard doesn't. Allars upside is greater than Howard's but yes Allar has to change a lot of things to get there. Do you think for 5 rounds, NFL owners, GMs, coaches and scouts passed up Will 150 times because they thought it would be fun, but secretly thought of him as a frachise QB? ? I've never seen a fan base get so optimistic about a 5th round QB that didnt play a snap his first full year
Think he was 6th round.
 
Not anointing anyone. It's about possibilities. Allar has an elite arm. Howard doesn't. Allars upside is greater than Howard's but yes Allar has to change a lot of things to get there. Do you think for 5 rounds, NFL owners, GMs, coaches and scouts passed up Will 150 times because they thought it would be fun, but secretly thought of him as a frachise QB? ? I've never seen a fan base get so optimistic about a 5th round QB that didnt play a snap his first full year
Owners, GMs and coaches **** up all the time....Brock Purdy??? They also Draft em early and they suck ......Kenny Pickett. I can't value Allar over Howard with his shity mechanics. Cannon doesn't matter if you are inaccurate. I don't care which one. Just as long as one is a dude. Im betting its Howard, but Ill be happy to be wrong if Allar is the starter for a dozen years.
 
Do I really need to list all of the QBs in college that won national championships thar were zeros in the NFL? Or visa versa? But for some odd reason, regardless of the long massive list of college stars that didnt translate to the NFL, Howard winning now means more then Allar's physical traits.
Do I really need to list all the freak athletes who were zeros in the NFL, etc etc...
 
Agreed, he is a mid-level backup who nhandles diversity well.

He is an excellent team mate while being very affordable.

Full time starter…….. not so much but he did have a 3-game stint where he was the best in the NFL.

I think if he is waived from here he will find employment elsewhere where.

My hope is that if he is going to be gone, try to get something out of him……..

Hard to believe, but I’m not a full time GM. I still feel we could get a 4th / 5th or a more probable 6th for him.




Salute the nation

There has to be at least one team that would offer to swap a 2027 6th for a 2027 7th and Rudy

Rudy by all appearances has been a good teammate with a mid skill set trapped in **** situations
 
Owners, GMs and coaches **** up all the time....Brock Purdy??? They also Draft em early and they suck ......Kenny Pickett. I can't value Allar over Howard with his shity mechanics. Cannon doesn't matter if you are inaccurate. I don't care which one. Just as long as one is a dude. Im betting its Howard, but Ill be happy to be wrong if Allar is the starter for a dozen years.
Yes mechanics have to be sound but if u don't have a cannon there are a litany of NFL throws you aren't going to be elite at no matter how accurate you are. I don't care about serviceable or starter for a qb. F THAT. I want franchise QB or nothing. What did big ben and Terry get us? 6 sbs. What did a litany of serviceable qbs or potential franchise qb get us? Playoff misery and pain.

So here is the way I look at it......its franchise qb to the promise land or misery. I dont give one rats arse about being decent so when I look at will f -ing Howard I say snooooooze. I say backup. I say serviceable. I say no SB win......and F that. At least with Allar I have an extremely flawed QB that is a project with an ELITE F-ING ARM. That to me has potential. Will does not but in a few years you can all say I was right about this. In the meantime I'll let you dream your dreamy little dreams about will Howard lol.

"We need to see what we have with will" I keep reading. Here's what you have with Will........bench warmer.
 
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Based on his pedigree before he got to the QB Developmental Power House known as Penn State ;) You also can't teach velocity.....the kid has a cannon arm. The whole west coast offense is predicated on footwork. I saw a really good video of Bill Walsh going through his offense once. The receivers make their cuts coordinated with the QBs drop backs. It's all footwork and timing based and coordinated with the receivers. Allar went poo poo when his footwork went poo. Who knows if he can be remade or not but if there is a guy who can do it it's McCarthy and if Allars footwork is remade, you are left with a laser arm who can fit balls into tight windows

Here is what was said about Josh Allen at Wyoming.......
Coming out of Wyoming, Josh Allen’s footwork was highly erratic and disconnected from his upper body, leading to major draft concerns. Because his feet weren't aligned with his targets, his front hip frequently closed prematurely. This prevented hip rotation, forcing him to over-rely on his arm and causing inconsistent ball placement and low completion percentages.The mechanical and physical issues that defined his footwork in college included:

Disconnected Sequence: Allen’s feet and eyes were famously out of sync, as evaluators noted before the draft.Platform Inconsistency: He often threw off his back foot, "arm-punched" his throws, and failed to plant firmly on his intended line.

Platform Inconsistency: He often threw off his back foot, "arm-punched" his throws, and failed to plant firmly on his intended line.

Stance Base: He tended to have a narrow base, which reduced his throwing power and made his accuracy suffer under pressure

In-Game Adjustments: Without a strong supporting cast at Wyoming, he frequently tried to compensate by over-striding, throwing from awkward platforms, and relying entirely on his elite arm strength rather than fundamental mechanics.

Now the same exact things were said about Allar and look at his receivers while he was there. He didn't have OSU receiver talent like Howard did and it wasn't remotely close.

One last thing I will say is I often go back in time and take a look at the Rivals 100 top high school players. A lot of the guys ranked in the the top 50 never amount to anything but you'd be surprised how many of the all pro talents the game produces were 5 star kids in high school. Allar I believe was the number 1 QB in his class......so was Justin Fields so it may mean squat but I'll draft a top rated QB in high school that has a rocket arm that was mismanaged in college in the 3rd all frigging day long. He's the inverse Kenny Pickett......Kenny performed in college but is on the small.side, has tiny hands, and never had a rocket arm and we took him in the first. Where did that get us.......go with talent!!!
Kind of ironic that you're comparing Drew Allar to Josh Allen, and talking up Allar's high school ranking. Allen's industry ranking coming out of high school in 2014 was a low 3-star: He was the #1746 player overall, and the 116th QB in his class.

You can continue to have wet dreams about Allar being the next Josh Allen. What winds up in your sheets is where that dream ends. They are not alike.
 
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Kind of ironic that you're comparing Drew Allar to Josh Allen, and talking up Allar's high school ranking. Allen's industry ranking coming out of high school in 2014 was a low 3-star: He was the #1746 player overall, and the 116th QB in his class.

You can continue to have wet dreams about Allar being the next Josh Allen. What winds up in your sheets is where that dream ends. They are not alike.
Lol so many negative people in this board and I'm a pretty negative person lol. I never said once he's gonna be Allen. He may never win a game for the Steelers game let alone anyone in the NFL. But let's look at a few things. One lots of QBs selected high become busts. There also are quite a few very good QBs that have not been selected in the first. It's a hard thing to figure out if a QB is gonna be a star. We all know that

What I do know about Allar is he can throw a dart with ease. He can chuck it down the filed 60 yards with ease. He has velocity to be able to zip throws between tight spaces quick. This can't be taught. You either have it or you dont. His arm from a purely strength and velocity standpoint is probably the strongest in the class. That's not just me saying it, it's tons of scouts and NFL personell saying it. He also HAS thrown some unbelievable balls. He also has thrown some real clunkers. So if he looks like a future NFL star one moment and then looks like a wasted pick the next the question is why? It's because he is the epitome of inconsistent because his mechanics are all over the place. If you can clean up his mechanics and get him to be consistent he has the talent to thrive. Will it happen? No idea but it's a possibility.

Now you bring in McCarthy. We haven't had a coach on the offensive side of the ball like this in a long time. All the little things like footwork, stance, rhythm, timing, release are things that Allar will benefit from immensely. It's the exact things that made Allar inconsistent. What you are starting with in Allar is cannon arm and size.

We will see what happens but read about what they are doing with him. They are breaking him down and dealing with simple fundamentals and mechanics. They are trying to remake him. Maybe he's a lost cause but he also has upside significantly greater than Howard.
 
Lol so many negative people in this board and I'm a pretty negative person lol. I never said once he's gonna be Allen. He may never win a game for the Steelers game let alone anyone in the NFL. But let's look at a few things. One lots of QBs selected high become busts. There also are quite a few very good QBs that have not been selected in the first. It's a hard thing to figure out if a QB is gonna be a star. We all know that

What I do know about Allar is he can throw a dart with ease. He can chuck it down the filed 60 yards with ease. He has velocity to be able to zip throws between tight spaces quick. This can't be taught. You either have it or you dont. His arm from a purely strength and velocity standpoint is probably the strongest in the class. That's not just me saying it, it's tons of scouts and NFL personell saying it. He also HAS thrown some unbelievable balls. He also has thrown some real clunkers. So if he looks like a future NFL star one moment and then looks like a wasted pick the next the question is why? It's because he is the epitome of inconsistent because his mechanics are all over the place. If you can clean up his mechanics and get him to be consistent he has the talent to thrive. Will it happen? No idea but it's a possibility.

Now you bring in McCarthy. We haven't had a coach on the offensive side of the ball like this in a long time. All the little things like footwork, stance, rhythm, timing, release are things that Allar will benefit from immensely. It's the exact things that made Allar inconsistent. What you are starting with in Allar is cannon arm and size.

We will see what happens but read about what they are doing with him. They are breaking him down and dealing with simple fundamentals and mechanics. They are trying to remake him. Maybe he's a lost cause but he also has upside significantly greater than Howard.
Their last names begin with All. As in all in!
 
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