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Browns now have second most raw talent in AFC

As much as it pains me to say, the Browns are going to be a tough out for years to come. They have so damn much talent on paper. But, they have had that before and still sucked so there is hope. But, I think Mayfield is a winner and he will be the difference for the Clowns this time.
 
slashsteel said:
Peppers was good, he is gone, they give up a 1st and a 3. That was a lot.


More important is a reminder moving forward to any fan wanting to later forgive AB for his antics.

The Giants show us what ABs talent could have brought in.

AB showed us what an ******* could do to disrupt that significant value.
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Peppers has not shown ANYTHING.
I would go so far as to utter the B word......BUST.
The 1st and 3rd is OK.
It's not two firsts a franchise player returns, nor is it multiple firsts that teams have used to move up to get a QB.
There was just a bunch of kvetching about how a 3rd sucks ( when it was for AB ).
Clowns gave up a one ( 17 overall ) in a VERY WEAK WR class for a top 5 WR in his prime.

Baker, Chubb, Hunt, Beckham, Landry, Calloway?
Could be time to not party like it's mid to late 80s, kids.
 
Hunt will be at least half the season and every RB works in KCs offense, so not sure how good Hunt is.
That top WR has had injury issues and 102 catches combined over the past two seasons.
I could care less what they look like on paper

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Coryea said:
Hunt will be at least half the season and every RB works in KCs offense, so not sure how good Hunt is.
That top WR has had injury issues and 102 catches combined over the past two seasons.
I could care less what they look like on paper

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And don’t forget that that wide receiver is a headcase. Just because he’s not one of Antonio brown-like proportions doesn’t mean that he’s not one in his own right. There are only so many footballs to go around; how long before one of em start bitching. Also, mayfield still has to prove himself. For all the flack Ben gets for his int totals(15 btw), this guy threw 14 int’s, and Ben threw the football almost 200 more times. Not to mention their oline Was in bad shape BEFOFE they got rid of their best lineman. I’m not ready to crown them just yet.
 
Some might not know that since that deal happened the browns no longer get the giants 4th from the Vernon deal. So the deal is Beckham and Vernon for 1st,3rd,peppers and the the Oline guy
 
Interesting post, do the Steelers actually have to play the Browns this fall, or are they already automatics L's?
 
Burgundy's Predictions:

Stains 9-7, city throws Super Bowl parade.
Stillers 8-8, Shades maintains his stellar record of "no losing seasons", win tiebreaker over the
Ratbirds 8-8.
Bungholes 4-12, clusterfuck.

Ben leads the league in passing again and misses the playoffs again because the defense and ST's suck.
 
Phinnster said:
Browns have the potential to be good
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Hey at least they are trying

Dont forget they picked up Kareem Hunt too

They got a chance to kick the Steelers into the cellar
 
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